Author Topic: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s  (Read 1946 times)

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2012, 11:26:14 AM »
Nah, Hip-Hop peaked in 1988, but was at it's best between 1986-2004. Everything after has just dragged been in the fall out of a great era.

93>>88
lyricism was sharper, beats were better
not saying 88 didnt have its share of classics, in fact Kane, Rakim, Chuck, and Krs One were in their primes
 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2012, 11:34:13 AM »
i miss buying CD singles just to have the b-side songs



I think what I miss is artists didnt have to rush projects out to make cash, now on the independant tip rappers are flooding the listener with product and to be honest a lot of it sounds rushed.
Think of how many DPG related projects have dropped in the last 2-3 years and how if they had cut and diced them you could have been left with 1-2 classic joints
The average listening span has shortened to since the the advent of the MP3 and the various devices associated with it
You get people with hours and hours of music that they havent invested any listening time in, I was speaking to someone about Mobb Deep the other day and he had no idea of their past before G Unit, so we sat down and I played him multiple tracks from Hell on Earth and the Infamous, dude couldnt believe it
When was the last time you listened to an album beginning to end and then threw it on again?
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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2012, 11:36:52 AM »
back in the day when u had to call Pete Rock to do a remix for ur b-side,,

that was probly the peak creatively , so called "golden era", hiphop was still fresh/ innoventive  as a music-genre, wit unconventional (not to mention talented) groups like Das EFX, naughty by NAture n Fu-Shnickens on the forefront,,  and then came the wave wit boombap n lyricism wit guys like O.C., Wu, BCC, Jeru n Nas etc etc.
 and every kid read the Source MAgazine or Rap Pages, no such thing as intenret

98 was teh startin point for its peak commercialy, when the industry understood that money could be made as a francise off of rap. Death Row were very succesful, but nobody did it like Master P when he came through and taught ppl how to get paid wit No Limit when he oversaturated teh game wit a perfect distirubtion deal (for its time),,,, and Def Jam raped the game wit 2 backtoback triple-plat albums from DMX that year (which was incredible). not to mention Bad Boy/Puff, Cash Money etc.
after that, u had the Eminem/aftermath-era.
and then the g-unit era.. so on n so on

The Source is a joke now, and is Rap Pages still in circulation?
I remember when Pac was first shot and then spent time in Jail Vibe was the one to read, man they had exclusives at the time
 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2012, 11:43:23 AM »
Nah, Hip-Hop peaked in 1988, but was at it's best between 1986-2004. Everything after has just dragged been in the fall out of a great era.

93>>88
lyricism was sharper, beats were better
not saying 88 didnt have its share of classics, in fact Kane, Rakim, Chuck, and Krs One were in their primes

Trust me, I listen to songs from the early 90's way more than the late 80's, but what Hip Hop represented was in it's purest form in 1988. Plus more classic albums came out in 1988 than 1993.

1988

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/jlagor1/1988_hip_hop

1993

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/musicman07/1993_hip_hop

1993 would be a goldyn year now, but compared to 1988, 1988 was just too deep of a year and Hip-Hop was still at it's purest.
 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2012, 11:44:39 AM »
i miss buying CD singles just to have the b-side songs



I think what I miss is artists didnt have to rush projects out to make cash, now on the independant tip rappers are flooding the listener with product and to be honest a lot of it sounds rushed.
Think of how many DPG related projects have dropped in the last 2-3 years and how if they had cut and diced them you could have been left with 1-2 classic joints
The average listening span has shortened to since the the advent of the MP3 and the various devices associated with it
You get people with hours and hours of music that they havent invested any listening time in


DJ Quik touched on this in an interview recently. He said that back long before the internet boom where artists now 'leak' everything for constant hype, real artists worked so hard on perfecting hit records that they hid their lesser tracks, they just didn't want that stuff to get released. Tracks would be shelved and sometimes be revisited and finished....or erased and never heard again. Lesser, but still good tracks would make b-sides or compilations of course.
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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2012, 11:48:09 AM »
Nah, Hip-Hop peaked in 1988, but was at it's best between 1986-2004. Everything after has just dragged been in the fall out of a great era.

93>>88
lyricism was sharper, beats were better
not saying 88 didnt have its share of classics, in fact Kane, Rakim, Chuck, and Krs One were in their primes

Trust me, I listen to songs from the early 90's way more than the late 80's, but what Hip Hop represented was in it's purest form in 1988. Plus more classic albums came out in 1988 than 1993.

1988

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/jlagor1/1988_hip_hop

1993

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/musicman07/1993_hip_hop

1993 would be a goldyn year now, but compared to 1988, 1988 was just too deep of a year and Hip-Hop was still at it's purest.

Those lists arent comprehensive enough, Ill try and find a better link
Eazy Duz it a classic? not sure about that
 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2012, 01:08:10 PM »
Thats why I can put a track like this on and it shits on anything released in the last 15 years. I guess its kinda like Hendrix and the Beatles for rock music in 67 , or Davis and Coltrane for Jazz. Not dissing the scene now at all


Good thread, and perfect track to illustrate your point.  This track wasn't a hit or anything, it was more of an afterthought.  Just a regular track for those days.  But like you said, today it shits on anything coming out (except for rare exceptions to the general rule, ofcourse).

...even the look of the video is the bomb compared to the bullshit video's today.  The video's today are just soft porn.  But like the African proverb says, "The body is easily satisfied but the heart not so easy".
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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2012, 01:11:51 PM »
what album was this track on, btw
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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2012, 01:19:00 PM »
what album was this track on, btw

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2012, 01:30:22 PM »
Nah, Hip-Hop peaked in 1988, but was at it's best between 1986-2004. Everything after has just dragged been in the fall out of a great era.

93>>88
lyricism was sharper, beats were better
not saying 88 didnt have its share of classics, in fact Kane, Rakim, Chuck, and Krs One were in their primes

Trust me, I listen to songs from the early 90's way more than the late 80's, but what Hip Hop represented was in it's purest form in 1988. Plus more classic albums came out in 1988 than 1993.

1988

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/jlagor1/1988_hip_hop

1993

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/musicman07/1993_hip_hop

1993 would be a goldyn year now, but compared to 1988, 1988 was just too deep of a year and Hip-Hop was still at it's purest.

Those lists arent comprehensive enough, Ill try and find a better link
Eazy Duz it a classic? not sure about that


never agreed wit that either

overrated album from an overrated artist


 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2012, 03:04:00 PM »

  But like the African proverb says, "The body is easily satisfied but the heart not so easy".


lmao at your obsession for africa..shit is pathetic
 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2012, 05:31:10 PM »
One thing I miss about that era is crews/groups and Im not talking about cats put together to form groups like Slaughterhouse or La Coka Nostra or crews like the Young Money dudes I mean guys who grew up togther and came in to the game together
Hiero for example, and with that collective you would get group projects and solo projects
Take this track from Casual "You bit so hard I thought that shit was a quote"
 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2012, 05:35:34 PM »
One thing that was really infuriating about that era and the big labels was you wouldnt see artists given leeway to work with other artists on competing labels
Also guys like Tech 9ine and Brotha Lynch hung got lost between the cracks but now theyre making the best music of their lives and getting the respect and numbers they deserve
 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2012, 05:05:59 PM »
Personally for me, my fave era is 1991 - 1998!

1999 was ok but it started to fade for me a little bit, especially with the south sounds
coming in, by 2002 i had stopped listning to new rap music altogether

 

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2012, 05:10:41 PM »
I mean, that makes sense. It was probably it's best at that time. The best of the best were pushed upon the public & were mainstream where today the best of the best are under random rocks.