Author Topic: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s  (Read 2016 times)

Triple OG Rapsodie

Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #90 on: May 18, 2012, 03:06:31 PM »
You keep going back to choice, which I've already addressed. Did you not get the analogy? You, me and the euros are a tiny subset out of the population, the ones with enough time and dedication to go through all the hurdles of inconvenience placed before us.

How is politics not a similar example? Both politics and music are given to you through the exact same form of media. I could make the exact same argument and say stop complaining about what the media does, because you have the choice to form your own political opinion. If MTV is playing the music we want to hear, then us media is giving us the news we want to read about.

LOL yeah i keep going back to choice, you act like you disproved it or something.  So is this tiny subset some kind of intellectual annomaly?  No.  Everyone has choice.  Even the people who watch mtv, which is why they watch it.  They dont have to.  I know personal responsibility is against your beliefs but cmon already.

You realize this statement voids like half of your posts in ToT?

Again, theyre different just because they both can reach you through the same physical medium means nothing and doesnt prove what youre saying in the least

Why on earth not? It's not just the same medium, its the same force at work. People in masses are exploitable, and for some reason you think that's only the case when it comes to politics. Really? You truly believe people's political beliefs are more easily shaped than their music opinion? I don't think you believe that. I think you're just trying to win an argument rather than be consistent.

I think people go with their gut on stuff like politics without a whole lot of thought, which is why tv personalities who dont really look at things in a critical way like hannity and maddow are very popular with their audiences.  

Someone's political ideals are going to be way more important to them than the background sounds they like to listen to.

Ask someone on the street about who won american idol last yr and then ask them who the vice president is.  Exactly.

I don't even know who won american idol. Fail. You know I'm right, you just don't like conceding.
 

Russell Bell

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #91 on: May 18, 2012, 05:03:34 PM »
You keep going back to choice, which I've already addressed. Did you not get the analogy? You, me and the euros are a tiny subset out of the population, the ones with enough time and dedication to go through all the hurdles of inconvenience placed before us.

How is politics not a similar example? Both politics and music are given to you through the exact same form of media. I could make the exact same argument and say stop complaining about what the media does, because you have the choice to form your own political opinion. If MTV is playing the music we want to hear, then us media is giving us the news we want to read about.

LOL yeah i keep going back to choice, you act like you disproved it or something.  So is this tiny subset some kind of intellectual annomaly?  No.  Everyone has choice.  Even the people who watch mtv, which is why they watch it.  They dont have to.  I know personal responsibility is against your beliefs but cmon already.

You realize this statement voids like half of your posts in ToT?

Again, theyre different just because they both can reach you through the same physical medium means nothing and doesnt prove what youre saying in the least

Why on earth not? It's not just the same medium, its the same force at work. People in masses are exploitable, and for some reason you think that's only the case when it comes to politics. Really? You truly believe people's political beliefs are more easily shaped than their music opinion? I don't think you believe that. I think you're just trying to win an argument rather than be consistent.

I think people go with their gut on stuff like politics without a whole lot of thought, which is why tv personalities who dont really look at things in a critical way like hannity and maddow are very popular with their audiences.  

Someone's political ideals are going to be way more important to them than the background sounds they like to listen to.

Ask someone on the street about who won american idol last yr and then ask them who the vice president is.  Exactly.

I don't even know who won american idol. Fail. You know I'm right, you just don't like conceding.

No, we arent talking about myself or you here.  Average joe blow on the street has ingrained and inelastic political ideas which guide their "thinking"..IE "republicans are bad" "obama is a socialist"  Republicans hate the environment"  "democrats are all for illegal immigrants overrruning the country".  Just b/c that shit is more important (supposedly) doesnt mean that any real thought goes into it.
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Hack Wilson - real

Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #92 on: May 18, 2012, 05:13:28 PM »
You keep going back to choice, which I've already addressed. Did you not get the analogy? You, me and the euros are a tiny subset out of the population, the ones with enough time and dedication to go through all the hurdles of inconvenience placed before us.

How is politics not a similar example? Both politics and music are given to you through the exact same form of media. I could make the exact same argument and say stop complaining about what the media does, because you have the choice to form your own political opinion. If MTV is playing the music we want to hear, then us media is giving us the news we want to read about.

LOL yeah i keep going back to choice, you act like you disproved it or something.  So is this tiny subset some kind of intellectual annomaly?  No.  Everyone has choice.  Even the people who watch mtv, which is why they watch it.  They dont have to.  I know personal responsibility is against your beliefs but cmon already.

You realize this statement voids like half of your posts in ToT?

Again, theyre different just because they both can reach you through the same physical medium means nothing and doesnt prove what youre saying in the least

Why on earth not? It's not just the same medium, its the same force at work. People in masses are exploitable, and for some reason you think that's only the case when it comes to politics. Really? You truly believe people's political beliefs are more easily shaped than their music opinion? I don't think you believe that. I think you're just trying to win an argument rather than be consistent.

I think people go with their gut on stuff like politics without a whole lot of thought, which is why tv personalities who dont really look at things in a critical way like hannity and maddow are very popular with their audiences.  

Someone's political ideals are going to be way more important to them than the background sounds they like to listen to.

Ask someone on the street about who won american idol last yr and then ask them who the vice president is.  Exactly.

I don't even know who won american idol. Fail. You know I'm right, you just don't like conceding.

No, we arent talking about myself or you here.  Average joe blow on the street has ingrained and inelastic political ideas which guide their "thinking"..IE "republicans are bad" "obama is a socialist"  Republicans hate the environment"  "democrats are all for illegal immigrants overrruning the country".  Just b/c that shit is more important (supposedly) doesnt mean that any real thought goes into it.

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Triple OG Rapsodie

Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #93 on: May 19, 2012, 05:00:44 PM »
You keep going back to choice, which I've already addressed. Did you not get the analogy? You, me and the euros are a tiny subset out of the population, the ones with enough time and dedication to go through all the hurdles of inconvenience placed before us.

How is politics not a similar example? Both politics and music are given to you through the exact same form of media. I could make the exact same argument and say stop complaining about what the media does, because you have the choice to form your own political opinion. If MTV is playing the music we want to hear, then us media is giving us the news we want to read about.

LOL yeah i keep going back to choice, you act like you disproved it or something.  So is this tiny subset some kind of intellectual annomaly?  No.  Everyone has choice.  Even the people who watch mtv, which is why they watch it.  They dont have to.  I know personal responsibility is against your beliefs but cmon already.

You realize this statement voids like half of your posts in ToT?

Again, theyre different just because they both can reach you through the same physical medium means nothing and doesnt prove what youre saying in the least

Why on earth not? It's not just the same medium, its the same force at work. People in masses are exploitable, and for some reason you think that's only the case when it comes to politics. Really? You truly believe people's political beliefs are more easily shaped than their music opinion? I don't think you believe that. I think you're just trying to win an argument rather than be consistent.

I think people go with their gut on stuff like politics without a whole lot of thought, which is why tv personalities who dont really look at things in a critical way like hannity and maddow are very popular with their audiences.  

Someone's political ideals are going to be way more important to them than the background sounds they like to listen to.

Ask someone on the street about who won american idol last yr and then ask them who the vice president is.  Exactly.

I don't even know who won american idol. Fail. You know I'm right, you just don't like conceding.

No, we arent talking about myself or you here.  Average joe blow on the street has ingrained and inelastic political ideas which guide their "thinking"..IE "republicans are bad" "obama is a socialist"  Republicans hate the environment"  "democrats are all for illegal immigrants overrruning the country".  Just b/c that shit is more important (supposedly) doesnt mean that any real thought goes into it.

Now you're using words like ingrained and inelastic to describe political ideas....meaning they would be less likely to be influenced and changed. Exactly the point I was trying to make. Unlike music taste, which is more susceptible to change. Hence why it can be more easily influenced by whatever is pushed onto the masses through the media. You obviously disagree with media bias when it comes to politics, despite that people have ingrained ideas. Maybe now you can see why I disagree with media bias in the music industry.
 

Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation)

Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #94 on: May 20, 2012, 10:44:34 AM »
You keep going back to choice, which I've already addressed. Did you not get the analogy? You, me and the euros are a tiny subset out of the population, the ones with enough time and dedication to go through all the hurdles of inconvenience placed before us.

How is politics not a similar example? Both politics and music are given to you through the exact same form of media. I could make the exact same argument and say stop complaining about what the media does, because you have the choice to form your own political opinion. If MTV is playing the music we want to hear, then us media is giving us the news we want to read about.

LOL yeah i keep going back to choice, you act like you disproved it or something.  So is this tiny subset some kind of intellectual annomaly?  No.  Everyone has choice.  Even the people who watch mtv, which is why they watch it.  They dont have to.  I know personal responsibility is against your beliefs but cmon already.

You realize this statement voids like half of your posts in ToT?

Again, theyre different just because they both can reach you through the same physical medium means nothing and doesnt prove what youre saying in the least

Why on earth not? It's not just the same medium, its the same force at work. People in masses are exploitable, and for some reason you think that's only the case when it comes to politics. Really? You truly believe people's political beliefs are more easily shaped than their music opinion? I don't think you believe that. I think you're just trying to win an argument rather than be consistent.

I think people go with their gut on stuff like politics without a whole lot of thought, which is why tv personalities who dont really look at things in a critical way like hannity and maddow are very popular with their audiences.  

Someone's political ideals are going to be way more important to them than the background sounds they like to listen to.

Ask someone on the street about who won american idol last yr and then ask them who the vice president is.  Exactly.

I don't even know who won american idol. Fail. You know I'm right, you just don't like conceding.

No, we arent talking about myself or you here.  Average joe blow on the street has ingrained and inelastic political ideas which guide their "thinking"..IE "republicans are bad" "obama is a socialist"  Republicans hate the environment"  "democrats are all for illegal immigrants overrruning the country".  Just b/c that shit is more important (supposedly) doesnt mean that any real thought goes into it.

Now you're using words like ingrained and inelastic to describe political ideas....meaning they would be less likely to be influenced and changed. Exactly the point I was trying to make. Unlike music taste, which is more susceptible to change. Hence why it can be more easily influenced by whatever is pushed onto the masses through the media. You obviously disagree with media bias when it comes to politics, despite that people have ingrained ideas. Maybe now you can see why I disagree with media bias in the music industry.


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Russell Bell

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Re: Hip hop peaked in the mid 90s
« Reply #95 on: May 20, 2012, 08:39:06 PM »
You keep going back to choice, which I've already addressed. Did you not get the analogy? You, me and the euros are a tiny subset out of the population, the ones with enough time and dedication to go through all the hurdles of inconvenience placed before us.

How is politics not a similar example? Both politics and music are given to you through the exact same form of media. I could make the exact same argument and say stop complaining about what the media does, because you have the choice to form your own political opinion. If MTV is playing the music we want to hear, then us media is giving us the news we want to read about.

LOL yeah i keep going back to choice, you act like you disproved it or something.  So is this tiny subset some kind of intellectual annomaly?  No.  Everyone has choice.  Even the people who watch mtv, which is why they watch it.  They dont have to.  I know personal responsibility is against your beliefs but cmon already.

You realize this statement voids like half of your posts in ToT?

Again, theyre different just because they both can reach you through the same physical medium means nothing and doesnt prove what youre saying in the least

Why on earth not? It's not just the same medium, its the same force at work. People in masses are exploitable, and for some reason you think that's only the case when it comes to politics. Really? You truly believe people's political beliefs are more easily shaped than their music opinion? I don't think you believe that. I think you're just trying to win an argument rather than be consistent.

I think people go with their gut on stuff like politics without a whole lot of thought, which is why tv personalities who dont really look at things in a critical way like hannity and maddow are very popular with their audiences.  

Someone's political ideals are going to be way more important to them than the background sounds they like to listen to.

Ask someone on the street about who won american idol last yr and then ask them who the vice president is.  Exactly.

I don't even know who won american idol. Fail. You know I'm right, you just don't like conceding.

No, we arent talking about myself or you here.  Average joe blow on the street has ingrained and inelastic political ideas which guide their "thinking"..IE "republicans are bad" "obama is a socialist"  Republicans hate the environment"  "democrats are all for illegal immigrants overrruning the country".  Just b/c that shit is more important (supposedly) doesnt mean that any real thought goes into it.

Now you're using words like ingrained and inelastic to describe political ideas....meaning they would be less likely to be influenced and changed. Exactly the point I was trying to make. Unlike music taste, which is more susceptible to change. Hence why it can be more easily influenced by whatever is pushed onto the masses through the media. You obviously disagree with media bias when it comes to politics, despite that people have ingrained ideas. Maybe now you can see why I disagree with media bias in the music industry.

I see the point youre making but i desagree.  Thats all.  Everything has a context.  This and politics are diff. imo.
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