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Re: Kendrick Lamar's "good kid m.A.A.d city" is Good.. But Not Classic
« Reply #125 on: October 24, 2012, 04:16:43 PM »
Shyne is calling his album trash because k.dot is doing something that puffy,dre,snoop,jay,nas,game did...you know what the fuck im talking about.


lmao, shyne goin all out with the jew shit

 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar's "good kid m.A.A.d city" is Good.. But Not Classic
« Reply #126 on: October 24, 2012, 04:18:09 PM »
http://www.aftermathmusic.com/blog/2012/10/23/gkmc-200k-in-the-1st-week/

225-240k first week sales = impressive 8)

isnt that first week really one day? since it dropped on a monday?

imagine if it dropped on a tuesday and had its full weeks worth...


naah, thats actually a week and a day sales...projection. would be insane if it did those numbers in a day. well, 200+ is already insane nowadays, but in one day would almost be some record shit.
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar's "good kid m.A.A.d city" is Good.. But Not Classic
« Reply #127 on: October 24, 2012, 06:33:38 PM »
Review from Grandland

http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/60251/bright-lights-mad-city-kendrick-lamar-is-about-to-release-the-best-rap-album-of-the-year

This part stuck out for me:

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Earlier this year, Top Dawg and its members agreed to a deal with Interscope Records and Dre’s Aftermath imprint. It has been six years since Aftermath released a non-Eminem or 50 Cent album and nine and a half since it broke an artist. In the context of one-time kingmaker Dr. Dre’s track record, this deal and the actual, non-stalled, in-stores-we-swear release of good kid amounts to a music industry miracle. (Ask King Tee, Hittman, RBX, Rakim, Stat Quo, The Last Emperor, Joell Ortiz, Bishop Lamont, or any of the myriad artists that Dre has signed and benched to eternity about the label’s developmental history.)
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar's "good kid m.A.A.d city" is Good.. But Not Classic
« Reply #128 on: October 25, 2012, 01:12:36 AM »
Review from Grandland

http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/60251/bright-lights-mad-city-kendrick-lamar-is-about-to-release-the-best-rap-album-of-the-year

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Earlier this year, Top Dawg and its members agreed to a deal with Interscope Records and Dre’s Aftermath imprint. It has been six years since Aftermath released a non-Eminem or 50 Cent album and nine and a half since it broke an artist. In the context of one-time kingmaker Dr. Dre’s track record, this deal and the actual, non-stalled, in-stores-we-swear release of good kid amounts to a music industry miracle. (Ask King Tee, Hittman, RBX, Rakim, Stat Quo, The Last Emperor, Joell Ortiz, Bishop Lamont, or any of the myriad artists that Dre has signed and benched to eternity about the label’s developmental history.)

Lol at that, so true
 

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« Reply #129 on: October 25, 2012, 05:41:23 AM »
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and nine and a half since it broke an artist.

Wait, didn't Game drop in 2005? So that's like 7 years since they broke an artist...

Still a long time though, LOL
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar's "good kid m.A.A.d city" is Good.. But Not Classic
« Reply #130 on: October 25, 2012, 01:29:38 PM »
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and nine and a half since it broke an artist.

Wait, didn't Game drop in 2005? So that's like 7 years since they broke an artist...

Still a long time though, LOL

Might have been referring to 50 Cent since GRODT started buzzing early 2003. Completely glossed over Game.
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar's "good kid m.A.A.d city" is Good.. But Not Classic
« Reply #131 on: October 26, 2012, 09:21:29 PM »
My Disclaimer: I normally don't get involved in discussions arguing with hard headed people that leads no where. Opinions are opinions and just leave it at that. I perfer to just stay in the shadows and read whats going on and keep my comments to my self, but Nik, I gotta let you have it and thats real!

@Nik, You claim to be a rapper and you promote your weak ass shit here and have the nerve to knock another rappers album thats far better than anything you've ever done? thats why I cant take your music serious. A geek that spends 70% of his time the forums arguing with other people and also getting involved in other people trolling beef. To me your just a fan of hip hop who wants to be a rapper and to be honest, your not gonna make outside your moms basement and I wouldn't quit my day job if I were you.
If you can make a better album then do it! stfu and get on your own grind and quit worrying about another rapper who is actually in the industry getting real money.

Now on Kenrick's album:
Its too soon to be calling this album or any album a classic that's been leaked and hasn't even hit the retails yet. I'd give it about 5 years and if its still holds a high replay value after that, then its a classic. It has to be an album for its time that stands out from the rest of them and so far so good. only time will tell if it's a classic but props to K.Dot for making a good album that got even our very own Nik, the eRapper to make a thread about him and all on his tip. ;)



lol... Someone is mad that my views don't match theirs. It's all good, buddy, it's just an opinion. See, I write for weserious.com now and I'm supposed to give my honest opinion, as a longtime hip-hop-head. Duno what that has to do with my own rappin career, but whatever makes u feel better about my article. One thing I will say though, comparing music done in million dollar studios mixed with top notch equipment by legendary producers to music made independently is not fair in any way, shape, or form. If L.A.M.B dropped on Aftermath with the same budget as Kendrick's shit, it would be album of the decade. That said, "Violence of tha Lambz" will slap, regardless, and most definitely have its own identity. As for "good kid MAAD city", you can usually tell if an album has classic potential upon the first couple spins... And this album does not.

Why you gotta always say some dumbshit NIK???!!!  LAMB shouldn't be in the same sentence, let alone paragraph as KDOt.  No offense, but even you must acknowledge the difference.  Come on man, you know Kendrick was already dropping heat long before his association with Aftermath.   

I do agree this isn't classic though...at least not yet.  Just as foolish as people already proclaiming this is a classic is people already proclaiming it ISN'T one.  It's too early.  It doesn't have obvious standout tracks, but the cd as a whole is very impressive after multiple listens.  It's a grower, kinda like Soul On Ice was for me when it dropped.

Kendrick may have some elements of his style borrowed(definitely, as you say, OUTKAST/Andre influence), but he's got so much of his own style as well.  He's very versatile, and the most impressive part of this album is AFTERMATH didn't water it down like they did Slaughterhouse.  Congrats to Kendrick for releasing an album that isn't generic and mainstream and reaching for obvious hits, or ladened with the typical westcoast sound (only nicely placed elements).  Now let's let this shit breathe!
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar's "good kid m.A.A.d city" is Good.. But Not Classic
« Reply #132 on: October 26, 2012, 09:37:25 PM »
My Disclaimer: I normally don't get involved in discussions arguing with hard headed people that leads no where. Opinions are opinions and just leave it at that. I perfer to just stay in the shadows and read whats going on and keep my comments to my self, but Nik, I gotta let you have it and thats real!

@Nik, You claim to be a rapper and you promote your weak ass shit here and have the nerve to knock another rappers album thats far better than anything you've ever done? thats why I cant take your music serious. A geek that spends 70% of his time the forums arguing with other people and also getting involved in other people trolling beef. To me your just a fan of hip hop who wants to be a rapper and to be honest, your not gonna make outside your moms basement and I wouldn't quit my day job if I were you.
If you can make a better album then do it! stfu and get on your own grind and quit worrying about another rapper who is actually in the industry getting real money.

Now on Kenrick's album:
Its too soon to be calling this album or any album a classic that's been leaked and hasn't even hit the retails yet. I'd give it about 5 years and if its still holds a high replay value after that, then its a classic. It has to be an album for its time that stands out from the rest of them and so far so good. only time will tell if it's a classic but props to K.Dot for making a good album that got even our very own Nik, the eRapper to make a thread about him and all on his tip. ;)



lol... Someone is mad that my views don't match theirs. It's all good, buddy, it's just an opinion. See, I write for weserious.com now and I'm supposed to give my honest opinion, as a longtime hip-hop-head. Duno what that has to do with my own rappin career, but whatever makes u feel better about my article. One thing I will say though, comparing music done in million dollar studios mixed with top notch equipment by legendary producers to music made independently is not fair in any way, shape, or form. If L.A.M.B dropped on Aftermath with the same budget as Kendrick's shit, it would be album of the decade. That said, "Violence of tha Lambz" will slap, regardless, and most definitely have its own identity. As for "good kid MAAD city", you can usually tell if an album has classic potential upon the first couple spins... And this album does not.

Why you gotta always say some dumbshit NIK???!!!  LAMB shouldn't be in the same sentence, let alone paragraph as KDOt.  No offense, but even you must acknowledge the difference.  Come on man, you know Kendrick was already dropping heat long before his association with Aftermath.   

I do agree this isn't classic though...at least not yet.  Just as foolish as people already proclaiming this is a classic is people already proclaiming it ISN'T one.  It's too early.  It doesn't have obvious standout tracks, but the cd as a whole is very impressive after multiple listens.  It's a grower, kinda like Soul On Ice was for me when it dropped.

Kendrick may have some elements of his style borrowed(definitely, as you say, OUTKAST/Andre influence), but he's got so much of his own style as well.  He's very versatile, and the most impressive part of this album is AFTERMATH didn't water it down like they did Slaughterhouse.  Congrats to Kendrick for releasing an album that isn't generic and mainstream and reaching for obvious hits, or ladened with the typical westcoast sound (only nicely placed elements).  Now let's let this shit breathe!


i fux with this cut over anything on Kendrick's album:


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/cLMppcK0Kfo" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/cLMppcK0Kfo</a>

u aint gotta come at me like that over an opinion, son. and lo@saying people are foolish for saying this is not a classic... so we cant judge for ourselves? I still remember the day "2001" dropped.. every1 knew it was a classic, right off the bat... when Eminem dropped "Recovery", most people knew it wasn't a classic, right off the bat. now, am I comparing Kendrick's effort to those two albums? no. but the point of the matter is, u can usually tell an album's overall value after the first few spins...if i give it a 7.5/10 now, it's not guna be a 10/10 in 10 years...especially when we look back and realize that the overall sound of this album is very similar to a lot of the radio hits droppin over the past couple years.


and just for the record, Slaughterhouse didn't drop on Aftermath.
 

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« Reply #133 on: October 26, 2012, 09:54:10 PM »
Yeah but Nik, that's your opinion, if 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is.

To me I think the album will be looked at as a classic in 5 years, but I also don't think people should throw around the term 1 week after the albums dropped. The album is representative of modern hip hop, their is no such thing as a regional sound anymore, you gonna say Killer Mikes album was shit because it didn't sound Southern?

It's good music, it doesn't sound poppy, or commercial, and the majority of that is because of the content. "Swimming Pools", "Backseat Freestyle", and the first half of "m.A.A.d City" are the only tracks to me that could be compared to current radio trends, the majority is just dope, downbeat hip hop.

This album is 100% Kednrick Lamar, his views, his story, his musical tastes, and as a result, the content is 100% West Coast.

Read this excerpt from a K Dot interview, maybe it'll make things clearer for you Nik “My music is for the world, not just for Compton, or myself,” he says. “My fans look at me as a leader because I represent myself as a leader.” Kendick’s goal is to foster a deeper connection with his listeners and take his music beyond the boundaries of regional geography. Though Dre and ’Pac are larger-than-life figures in rap, both are inextricably linked to the West Coast. Lamar has different aspirations."
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar's "good kid m.A.A.d city" is Good.. But Not Classic
« Reply #134 on: October 26, 2012, 10:14:04 PM »
Yeah but Nik, that's your opinion, if 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is.

To me I think the album will be looked at as a classic in 5 years, but I also don't think people should throw around the term 1 week after the albums dropped. The album is representative of modern hip hop, their is no such thing as a regional sound anymore, you gonna say Killer Mikes album was shit because it didn't sound Southern?

It's good music, it doesn't sound poppy, or commercial, and the majority of that is because of the content. "Swimming Pools", "Backseat Freestyle", and the first half of "m.A.A.d City" are the only tracks to me that could be compared to current radio trends, the majority is just dope, downbeat hip hop.

This album is 100% Kednrick Lamar, his views, his story, his musical tastes, and as a result, the content is 100% West Coast.

Read this excerpt from a K Dot interview, maybe it'll make things clearer for you Nik “My music is for the world, not just for Compton, or myself,” he says. “My fans look at me as a leader because I represent myself as a leader.” Kendick’s goal is to foster a deeper connection with his listeners and take his music beyond the boundaries of regional geography. Though Dre and ’Pac are larger-than-life figures in rap, both are inextricably linked to the West Coast. Lamar has different aspirations."


i get all that, my dude...and that fine, cuz its ur opinion. but i'd like to highly disagree with u when u say that theres no longer such thing as regional sound. Xzibit just dropped a great album with west coast heat front-to-back....and it's not "G-Funk instrumentals with Zapp samples", like some Kendrick fans keep suggesting people are lookin for. it's just a modernized west coast sound, and it slaps. it's a matter of taste and opinion, and i understand that many people are lovin' this new Kendrick album. but it doesn't make it fact....also, don't forget, it's very easy 2 get caught up in hype.
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar's "good kid m.A.A.d city" is Good.. But Not Classic
« Reply #135 on: October 27, 2012, 12:59:11 AM »
Xzibit just dropped a great album with west coast heat front-to-back....and it's not "G-Funk instrumentals with Zapp samples", like some Kendrick fans keep suggesting people are lookin for. it's just a modernized west coast sound, and it slaps. it's a matter of taste and opinion, and i understand that many people are lovin' this new Kendrick album. but it doesn't make it fact....also, don't forget, it's very easy 2 get caught up in hype.
I don't know. I think the Xzibit album definitely caters to the more traditional West Coast sound that people expect. Not that that's a problem for me but I like that K. Dot is trying something different. I've only had a chance to hear "good kid m.A.A.d city" once so far but to me, it feels like a "game changer". Opinions are really all over the place but that's too be expected. Having heard it, I don't get your regional sound complaint either. The content sound unavoidably L.A., it just isn't the California hip-hop formula we've become accustomed to.
 

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« Reply #136 on: October 27, 2012, 01:10:30 AM »
Yeah but Nik, that's your opinion, if 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is.

To me I think the album will be looked at as a classic in 5 years, but I also don't think people should throw around the term 1 week after the albums dropped. The album is representative of modern hip hop, their is no such thing as a regional sound anymore, you gonna say Killer Mikes album was shit because it didn't sound Southern?

It's good music, it doesn't sound poppy, or commercial, and the majority of that is because of the content. "Swimming Pools", "Backseat Freestyle", and the first half of "m.A.A.d City" are the only tracks to me that could be compared to current radio trends, the majority is just dope, downbeat hip hop.

This album is 100% Kednrick Lamar, his views, his story, his musical tastes, and as a result, the content is 100% West Coast.

Read this excerpt from a K Dot interview, maybe it'll make things clearer for you Nik “My music is for the world, not just for Compton, or myself,” he says. “My fans look at me as a leader because I represent myself as a leader.” Kendick’s goal is to foster a deeper connection with his listeners and take his music beyond the boundaries of regional geography. Though Dre and ’Pac are larger-than-life figures in rap, both are inextricably linked to the West Coast. Lamar has different aspirations."


i get all that, my dude...and that fine, cuz its ur opinion. but i'd like to highly disagree with u when u say that theres no longer such thing as regional sound. Xzibit just dropped a great album with west coast heat front-to-back....and it's not "G-Funk instrumentals with Zapp samples", like some Kendrick fans keep suggesting people are lookin for. it's just a modernized west coast sound, and it slaps. it's a matter of taste and opinion, and i understand that many people are lovin' this new Kendrick album. but it doesn't make it fact....also, don't forget, it's very easy 2 get caught up in hype.

Yeah there is still a regional sound, I guess I was trying to say its not as important as it used to be. K Dot wanted to make a universal album, rooted in Compton themes, to me he achievedthat. It will be interesting to see how the game is influenced by this album, hopefully it brings content back to the forefront.
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar's "good kid m.A.A.d city" is Good.. But Not Classic
« Reply #137 on: October 27, 2012, 04:06:12 AM »
if 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is.

Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be bothered
about their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"
so they're eager to jump on anything.

Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)
saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...
(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)

But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quickly
stuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...

Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heard
Brother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...
And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...

Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think
this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses...
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar's "good kid m.A.A.d city" is Good.. But Not Classic
« Reply #138 on: October 27, 2012, 08:20:56 AM »
Xzibit just dropped a great album with west coast heat front-to-back....and it's not "G-Funk instrumentals with Zapp samples", like some Kendrick fans keep suggesting people are lookin for. it's just a modernized west coast sound, and it slaps. it's a matter of taste and opinion, and i understand that many people are lovin' this new Kendrick album. but it doesn't make it fact....also, don't forget, it's very easy 2 get caught up in hype.
I don't know. I think the Xzibit album definitely caters to the more traditional West Coast sound that people expect. Not that that's a problem for me but I like that K. Dot is trying something different. I've only had a chance to hear "good kid m.A.A.d city" once so far but to me, it feels like a "game changer". Opinions are really all over the place but that's too be expected. Having heard it, I don't get your regional sound complaint either. The content sound unavoidably L.A., it just isn't the California hip-hop formula we've become accustomed to.


i already agreed with the fact that the content is obviously very west coast.....but aside from content, there is nothing in terms of sound that makes it stick out as a west coast hip-hop album. some people dont mind, some people do. thats all it really comes down 2.
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar's "good kid m.A.A.d city" is Good.. But Not Classic
« Reply #139 on: October 27, 2012, 08:23:22 AM »
classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think
this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses...


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« Reply #140 on: October 27, 2012, 09:40:26 AM »
if 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is.

Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be bothered
about their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"
so they're eager to jump on anything.

Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)
saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...
(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)

But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quickly
stuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...

Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heard
Brother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...
And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...

Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think
this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses...

None of the albums you've mentioned had anything close to the amount of critical acclaim GKMC is getting. Not even close.
 

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« Reply #141 on: October 27, 2012, 11:11:20 AM »
Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be bothered
about their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"
so they're eager to jump on anything.

Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)
saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...
(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)

But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quickly
stuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...

Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heard
Brother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...
And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...

Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think
this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses...
I don't really remember anyone jumping on the "Watch The Throne" album and hyping it to that degree. It certainly got strong reviews but I never read or any legitimate reviewers or publications suggesting it was an immediate classic.
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar's "good kid m.A.A.d city" is Good.. But Not Classic
« Reply #142 on: October 27, 2012, 11:29:45 AM »
if 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is.

Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be bothered
about their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"
so they're eager to jump on anything.

Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)
saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...
(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)

But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quickly
stuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...

Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heard
Brother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...
And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...

Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think
this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses...

None of the albums you've mentioned had anything close to the amount of critical acclaim GKMC is getting. Not even close.
Right, and from what I remember, WTT was viewed as a let down and disappointment to most.
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar's "good kid m.A.A.d city" is Good.. But Not Classic
« Reply #143 on: October 27, 2012, 12:19:16 PM »
if 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is.

Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be bothered
about their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"
so they're eager to jump on anything.

Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)
saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...
(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)

But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quickl
stuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...

Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heard
Brother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...
And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...

Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think
this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses...

None of the albums you've mentioned had anything close to the amount of critical acclaim GKMC is getting. Not even close.
Right, and from what I remember, WTT was viewed as a let down and disappointment to most.

Yeah I was gonna say this, I remember that album being a bit of a letdown for critics and fans. I haven't seen a hip hop album get this much love in a long time, I'm talking years, feel free to show me examples that disprove that.
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar's "good kid m.A.A.d city" is Good.. But Not Classic
« Reply #144 on: October 27, 2012, 01:41:00 PM »
There are a lot of classic albums that sound outdated or that are very year specific. It's not really a big deal. And the last album to receive this amount of praise was Kanye's solo album. If anything this one exceeds it. Tyler's Goblin was actually a let down to many people. Tyler had huge hype and Odd Future had a lot of momentum going into Goblin, especially when Yonkers came out but ultimately it didn't meet the hype. Good Kid Maad City not only had a lot of hype, but it met or exceeded a majority of people's expectations.
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar's "good kid m.A.A.d city" is Good.. But Not Classic
« Reply #145 on: October 27, 2012, 02:32:29 PM »
if 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is.

Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be bothered
about their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"
so they're eager to jump on anything.

Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)
saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...
(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)

But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quickl
stuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...

Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heard
Brother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...
And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...

Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think
this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses...

None of the albums you've mentioned had anything close to the amount of critical acclaim GKMC is getting. Not even close.
Right, and from what I remember, WTT was viewed as a let down and disappointment to most.

Yeah I was gonna say this, I remember that album being a bit of a letdown for critics and fans. I haven't seen a hip hop album get this much love in a long time, I'm talking years, feel free to show me examples that disprove that.

Kanye's "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy" got this --

Pitchfork Media - 10/10
Rolling Stone 5/5
Slant Magazine 5/5
XXL - XXL
Robert Christgau - A
Entertainment Weekly - A
The Independent - 5/5
NME - 9/10
Spin   9/10
Allmusic - 4/5
The Guardian - 4/5

So that Kanye album got higher than Kendrick at a bunch of places, Pitchfork, NME, Rolling Stone, etc. and the same on XXL...

I'm not saying it like "Kanye is better than Kendrick", because I don't really like either (they're both ok though),
just to show that sometimes critics go crazy over stuff when it's first out...

 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar's "good kid m.A.A.d city" is Good.. But Not Classic
« Reply #146 on: October 27, 2012, 03:23:21 PM »
More than likely you all are local LA artist that are mad that Kendrick did his own thing is being successful w/ his music.

It's 2012, gangmembers are wack now in LA, the biggest LA artist are not rappin or sounding like old school west coast guys. Which is why it's working.
There's more of us regular people than these lost souls gangbanging locals. It's a culture, but it's not really how it was painted and romanticized in old
school music. Go look outside, drive around LA, kids and culture has changed.

Kendrick's 'GKMC' speaks to the generation post Snoop, Kurupt, Ice Cube etc. We all still went through the tough times, the gun shots, the police brutality,
we just don't glorify it, it's wack to put these gangmembers on a pedestal.

Long live the reign of #GKMC, a real classic album defining a generation and gearing up for the new LA music takeover, which is not through G-funk, Bang Bang,
Lowrider lifestyle. New music for the variety that exists in all parts of LA.
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar's "good kid m.A.A.d city" is Good.. But Not Classic
« Reply #147 on: October 27, 2012, 03:24:43 PM »
More than likely you all are local LA artist that are mad that Kendrick did his own thing is being successful w/ his music.

It's 2012, gangmembers are wack now in LA, the biggest LA artist are not rappin or sounding like old school west coast guys. Which is why it's working.
There's more of us regular people than these lost souls gangbanging locals. It's a culture, but it's not really how it was painted and romanticized in old
school music. Go look outside, drive around LA, kids and culture has changed.

Kendrick's 'GKMC' speaks to the generation post Snoop, Kurupt, Ice Cube etc. We all still went through the tough times, the gun shots, the police brutality,
we just don't glorify it, it's wack to put these gangmembers on a pedestal.

Long live the reign of #GKMC, a real classic album defining a generation and gearing up for the new LA music takeover, which is not through G-funk, Bang Bang,
Lowrider lifestyle. New music for the variety that exists in all parts of LA.

thanks Kendrick for signing up to make this post  ::)
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar's "good kid m.A.A.d city" is Good.. But Not Classic
« Reply #148 on: October 27, 2012, 03:27:31 PM »
if 90% of legitimate reviewers, and also random heads think the album is going to be classic, then it likely is.

Not really... music critics have to hype something every year, otherwise no one would be bothered
about their interviews, etc. they're not gonna be like, "everything this year sucks, come back next year"
so they're eager to jump on anything.

Like when "Watch the Throne" came out, for that week you had all the critics (most of whom are not really hip-hop fans)
saying it was amazing, classic, etc. and of course all the Jay-Z and Kanye fans saying it was "another" classic for both guys...
(every album Kanye brings out is declared instant classic by some critics, including XXL)

But now everyone is over that album... this happens more and more nowadays, probably because of the internet and how quickl
stuff can be reviewed and spread, and everyone can get in a frenzy all at once, and how much music comes out...

Same with Odd Future... "OMG, Tyler's album is a classic! It's brand-new!" said all the critics who had never heard
Brother Lynch, Cage, early Em, ICP, Gravediggaz and all the others who did that style before...
And now they're beginning to be the "old" group who were hot "last year"...

Maybe Kendrick's album will go down as classic, but classics often have a "timeless" sound and I think
this will sound "very 2012" in a few years, mainly because of the beats/choruses...

None of the albums you've mentioned had anything close to the amount of critical acclaim GKMC is getting. Not even close.
Right, and from what I remember, WTT was viewed as a let down and disappointment to most.

Yeah I was gonna say this, I remember that album being a bit of a letdown for critics and fans. I haven't seen a hip hop album get this much love in a long time, I'm talking years, feel free to show me examples that disprove that.

Kanye's "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy" got this --

Pitchfork Media - 10/10
Rolling Stone 5/5
Slant Magazine 5/5
XXL - XXL
Robert Christgau - A
Entertainment Weekly - A
The Independent - 5/5
NME - 9/10
Spin   9/10
Allmusic - 4/5
The Guardian - 4/5

So that Kanye album got higher than Kendrick at a bunch of places, Pitchfork, NME, Rolling Stone, etc. and the same on XXL...

I'm not saying it like "Kanye is better than Kendrick", because I don't really like either (they're both ok though),
just to show that sometimes critics go crazy over stuff when it's first out...




They clearly don't just crazy over everything that comes out or with a hype train though. The big fans of the Kanye West album still stand by it.
 

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Re: Kendrick Lamar's "good kid m.A.A.d city" is Good.. But Not Classic
« Reply #149 on: October 27, 2012, 03:39:18 PM »
More than likely you all are local LA artist that are mad that Kendrick did his own thing is being successful w/ his music.

It's 2012, gangmembers are wack now in LA, the biggest LA artist are not rappin or sounding like old school west coast guys. Which is why it's working.
There's more of us regular people than these lost souls gangbanging locals. It's a culture, but it's not really how it was painted and romanticized in old
school music. Go look outside, drive around LA, kids and culture has changed.

Kendrick's 'GKMC' speaks to the generation post Snoop, Kurupt, Ice Cube etc. We all still went through the tough times, the gun shots, the police brutality,
we just don't glorify it, it's wack to put these gangmembers on a pedestal.

Long live the reign of #GKMC, a real classic album defining a generation and gearing up for the new LA music takeover, which is not through G-funk, Bang Bang,
Lowrider lifestyle. New music for the variety that exists in all parts of LA.

thanks Kendrick for signing up to make this post  ::)


If you haven't stepped out the box then this LA music has passed you by, Snoop, Dr Dre, Game days are over. The new generation of LA music has arrived, Kendrick Lamar, JayRock, Ab-Soul, SchoolBoy Q, Nipsey Hussle, Dom Kennedy, Casey Veggies, Odd Future, Hopsin, Blu, Skeme, PacDiv, Thurz. Fresh new artist, that fit how LA really is now in 2012.