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2euce 7even

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Rap Vs. Hip-Hop
« on: October 25, 2012, 03:09:15 AM »
Rap=1st Element Of Hip-Hop
Hip-Hop=Rap,DJin´,Graffiti & B-Boying=The Culture

Right Or Wrong?

Because I Always Hear Ppl Talk About A "Difference" That Doesn´t Excist
 

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Re: Rap Vs. Hip-Hop
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2012, 03:13:09 AM »


is he rapping? yes. is that hip-hop? nope


Rap is not real, I don't care what they told you,
Fake people say fake things in their vocalbooth
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Re: Rap Vs. Hip-Hop
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2012, 08:21:59 AM »
Wutang,dogg pound is hiph op..Young money cash money,mmg  e,gucci mane ect...is rap.
 

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Re: Rap Vs. Hip-Hop
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2012, 11:55:32 AM »
Wutang,dogg pound is hiph op..Young money cash money,mmg  e,gucci mane ect...is rap.

You are 100% wrong.

Rap is something you do.

Hip-Hop is the music and the culture.

Basic shit really..


Also.. I HATE the term ''Real Hip-Hop'' .. GTFO.. Wiz Khalifa and Lil Wayne are just as much hip-hop as KRS-One and NWA.
 

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Re: Rap Vs. Hip-Hop
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2012, 12:46:23 PM »
Wutang,dogg pound is hiph op..Young money cash money,mmg  e,gucci mane ect...is rap.

WTF??? keep smoking my friend
 

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Re: Rap Vs. Hip-Hop
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2012, 01:04:51 PM »
Wutang,dogg pound is hiph op..Young money cash money,mmg  e,gucci mane ect...is rap.

weedhead ur a good poster i didnt expect something that excuse my language DUMB from you. wu tang, dpg, spice 1,etc.="sorta underground hip-hop" & ymcmb, mmg, gucci,etc. is "mainstream" ever heard of this two words?
 

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Re: Rap Vs. Hip-Hop
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2012, 02:07:23 PM »
IS THIS RAP OR HIP HOP???
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/2ucV1-N0aI0?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/2ucV1-N0aI0?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US</a>

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Re: Rap Vs. Hip-Hop
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2012, 05:35:47 PM »
IS THIS RAP OR HIP HOP???
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/2ucV1-N0aI0?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/2ucV1-N0aI0?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US</a>

Rap, which is Hip-Hop.

Hip-Hop is the culture, rap is part of the culture. When you rap, you take part in Hip-Hop culture, but there is more the Hip-Hop than just rap.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/YRkoHiOiPcc?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/YRkoHiOiPcc?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0</a>

 

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Re: Rap Vs. Hip-Hop
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2012, 07:06:09 PM »
That 5 elements shit is a way for outsiders to quantify something so they can market it. Hip hop doesn't need any "elements" except a beat and raps.

Fuck KRS 1.

Nas is hip hop. Juvenile is hip hop. Chief Keef is hip hop. Just varying degrees of likeability for different people.
 

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Re: Rap Vs. Hip-Hop
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2012, 07:15:06 PM »
Wutang,dogg pound is hiph op..Young money cash money,mmg  e,gucci mane ect...is rap.

weedhead ur a good poster i didnt expect something that excuse my language DUMB from you. wu tang, dpg, spice 1,etc.="sorta underground hip-hop" & ymcmb, mmg, gucci,etc. is "mainstream" ever heard of this two words?

yeah right, wu tang sold tens of millions of copies and they're "sorta underground", just like dpg whose debut album went double platinum and spice 1 whose first three albums went gold fast. lmao

 

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Re: Rap Vs. Hip-Hop
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2012, 11:15:06 AM »
LONG LIVE HIP HOP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Summa y'all #mediocres more worried bout my goings on than u is about ya own.... But that ain't none of my business so.....I'll just #SipTeaForKermit #ifitaintaboutdamoney #2sugarspleaseFollow," - T.I.
 

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Re: Rap Vs. Hip-Hop
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2012, 11:42:21 AM »
Don't forget, X-Raided on the phone is hip-hop too  8)
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Re: Rap Vs. Hip-Hop
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2012, 12:38:45 AM »
Rap and Hip Hop are the same exact thing. A music genre. A lot of people just use the word rap because it's a lot shorter and easier to type.
 

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Re: Rap Vs. Hip-Hop
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2012, 09:42:14 AM »
Why come to a westcoast Hip-Hop board and not know the difference between Rap and Hip-Hop.

First off, just because you don't like something, it doesn't make it not Hip-Hop. No Limit, Lil' Wayne, Gucci, and all of that is still Hip-Hop. You can't say it's not Hip-Hop, because they are still rapping, there is still mono-rhythmic beats, which is a continuation of DJ'ing, and it's still rap music, which is Hip-Hop.

I think the further we get away the generation that started Hip-Hop, and those of us that were kids as it was happening and learned from our elders, the younger people are just making it up as they go. So in the interest of education, here is a break down.

Hip-Hop was founded in the 1970's during house parties in the Bronx in New York. It was founded by Kool Herc who would take two records and scratch them up and repeat the break beats part of an R&B song. The most common R&B records were James Brown, but others were used. So as these parties started to get more hyped, rappers would start to freestyle over the looped break beats. If you grew up in any community that has a large African American population, you would have heard of the "dozens", which is basically "Yo' Mama" jokes. Well that's what the rappers would do, they'd start off rhyming battle raps based off the "dozens". As rap because bigger and bigger, this song became the first mainstream rap song by sampling the disco song Goodtimes in 1979.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/b6gD_CwF5YM?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/b6gD_CwF5YM?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0</a>

Now in 1979, Sugar Hill Gang to real rap music fans would be the same as Lil' Wayne today. Real fans of rap music didn't like Sugar Hill Gang and they'd be seen as sell outs, especially because the lyrics were bitten from Grandmaster Caz, who was respected in New York. Over time, the popularity of Rappers Delight with white audiences helped spread rap music across the land. A DJ in New York coined the term Hip-Hop, but people had been using Rap Music because people were "Rapping" over records. If you don't know what "Rap" is, "Rap" was a term used in the 70's which basically was like saying he's "Smooth Talking". Hip-Hop also was used now, but the people on the street were still calling it "Rap" Music, so they decided to call the culture Hip-Hop. Hip-Hop became the way of life, it was more than just rapping, it was the DJ'ing that goes into Rap Music, it was the Dancing that you did for the rap music, and it was graffiti.

In short, Rap music is the music, it's the rapper or MC spitting lyrics of a mono-rhythmic beat. Hip-Hop is everything coming together. It's the whole of the music, it's rap music, with the dance and beats and the art. Over time, graffiti has become mural art thanks to the influence of the westcoast.

This is Hip-Hop



This is Hip-Hop

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/9lDCYjb8RHk?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/9lDCYjb8RHk?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0</a>

And yes, even this is Hip-Hop

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/HY9uZWCh4go?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/HY9uZWCh4go?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;rel=0</a>
 

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Re: Rap Vs. Hip-Hop
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2012, 09:47:25 AM »
Nah I gotta say you're getting things flipped IMO

Hip-Hop is the music.

Graff and shit is hip-hop culture