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Re: Ice Cube - Everythang's Currupt
« Reply #75 on: November 04, 2012, 12:20:46 PM »
And again just my opinion, Romney ain't gonna change shit either. Hence why I said for me it's pick ya poison

yup this should go without saying. we're living in crazy times. i think the events of this decade will be the big ones in my generations lifetime, if we make it to the other side. most people are way behind the curve of what's going to hatch out in the next few years. the sooner the better really.

the way i see it you vote for either you are directly responsible for what happens. taking responsibility is the big cultural issue.


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Re: Ice Cube - Everythang's Currupt
« Reply #76 on: November 04, 2012, 12:23:59 PM »
And again just my opinion, Romney ain't gonna change shit either. Hence why I said for me it's pick ya poison

yup this should go without saying. we're living in crazy times. i think the events of this decade will be the big ones in my generations lifetime, if we make it to the other side. most people are way behind the curve of what's going to hatch out in the next few years. the sooner the better really.

the way i see it you vote for either you are directly responsible for what happens. taking responsibility is the big cultural issue.



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« Reply #77 on: November 04, 2012, 12:43:04 PM »
"pick your poison", No.  Pick the Change for a better direction, Yes

Ehh in the state this country is in, it will take 2-3 presidents to change this in a better direction


And u shoulda stopped right here instead of trying to look "nuetral".  



Economist have already said that and if u actually look at it nuetrally and take EVERYTHING into account then u'd clearly understand that.  This whole notion that Obama and Romney are the same ppl and r fighting for the same cause is ridiculous and its why i half-heartedly support a litmus test in 2014 and beyond when it comes to Voting for Elected Officials.  


There's a gang of reasons why we need to re-elect Obama (like the Supreme Court for 1) and there's a ton of reasons as to exactly why we shouldnt elect Romney (like his Lack of Leadership among quite a few other reasons).  Its not a matter of "pick your poison", do u want Change or more of the Same?  there's a stark contrast of what's up for grabs in this Election and there's a clear view on how much alot of ppl dont know whats going on who use Candidate Speeches and News Reporter talking points to "articulate" their "views" on Democracy.    


There's ppl who would agree with what Obama has done and can clearly see that we're better off than we were 4 years ago but wont vote for him becuz he's Black.   Those kinds of ppl are up on the issues and they have proof of it but they wont vote for him becuz of who he is on the outside.  



but like i said, i dont expect this place to get it when the only time they keep up with current events and who's who is during Presidential Election Season.  
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Re: Ice Cube - Everythang's Currupt
« Reply #78 on: November 04, 2012, 12:50:05 PM »
"pick your poison", No.  Pick the Change for a better direction, Yes

Ehh in the state this country is in, it will take 2-3 presidents to change this in a better direction


And u shoulda stopped right here instead of trying to look "nuetral".  



Economist have already said that and if u actually look at it nuetrally and take EVERYTHING into account then u'd clearly understand that.  This whole notion that Obama and Romney are the same ppl and r fighting for the same cause is ridiculous and its why i half-heartedly support a litmus test in 2014 and beyond when it comes to Voting for Elected Officials.  


There's a gang of reasons why we need to re-elect Obama (like the Supreme Court for 1) and there's a ton of reasons as to exactly why we shouldnt elect Romney (like his Lack of Leadership among quite a few other reasons).  Its not a matter of "pick your poison", do u want Change or more of the Same?  there's a stark contrast of what's up for grabs in this Election and there's a clear view on how much alot of ppl dont know whats going on who use Candidate Speeches and News Reporter talking points to "articulate" their "views" on Democracy.    


There's ppl who would agree with what Obama has done and can clearly see that we're better off than we were 4 years ago but wont vote for him becuz he's Black.   Those kinds of ppl are up on the issues and they have proof of it but they wont vote for him becuz of who he is on the outside.  



but like i said, i dont expect this place to get it when the only time they keep up with current events and who's who is during Presidential Election Season.  

Not looking neutral. I voted for Obama, twice
 

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Re: Ice Cube - Everythang's Currupt
« Reply #79 on: November 04, 2012, 12:54:48 PM »
lol.  nah u were but i c u



and actually, let me be technical.  they didnt say 2-3 Presidents, they said 10 years.  my mistake on the lack of elaboration
 

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Re: Ice Cube - Everythang's Currupt
« Reply #80 on: November 04, 2012, 01:00:35 PM »
lol.  nah u were but i c u



and actually, let me be technical.  they didnt say 2-3 Presidents, they said 10 years.  my mistake on the lack of elaboration

See what? For the record I'm indie just like Cube is, Republicans and Democrats are corrupt
 

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« Reply #81 on: November 04, 2012, 01:09:00 PM »
And so are Independents, Green Party people, The Rent Is Too Damn High people, and so and so on.  Look, we dont live in this kalidiscope world where everybody is equal and everybody is corrupt.  There's alot of people who r and theres alot of ppl who arent.  


At the end of the day do u want sumbody who actually gives a fuck about "you" and has something to prove or do u want sumbody who's only concern is the status quo and his constichuants?  And that extends beyond Presidential Elections, it goes to Local Elections too (the races most ppl, literally dont care about).  


Im not about looking neutral for the sake of making ppl comfortable with me, im about Facts.  its either Or for me with little in between
 

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Re: Ice Cube - Everythang's Currupt
« Reply #82 on: November 04, 2012, 01:17:05 PM »
And so are Independents, Green Party people, The Rent Is Too Damn High people, and so and so on.  Look, we dont live in this kalidiscope world where everybody is equal and everybody is corrupt.  There's alot of people who r and theres alot of ppl who arent.  


At the end of the day do u want sumbody who actually gives a fuck about "you" and has something to prove or do u want sumbody who's only concern is the status quo and his constichuants?  And that extends beyond Presidential Elections, it goes to Local Elections too (the races most ppl, literally dont care about).  


Im not about looking neutral for the sake of making ppl comfortable with me, im about Facts.  its either Or for me with little in between

Neither am I. If you want to continue a political rant with me let's take this to G Spot or PM. Back to the topic, the beat drives that track, definitely growing on me
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Re: Ice Cube - Everythang's Currupt
« Reply #83 on: November 04, 2012, 01:21:21 PM »
People are supposed to vote on FACTS and Character, not fear which is what the Republicans have been betting on what people will do. 


Its easy to defend Obama when u know what he's done and what he's about.  Fuck this "im nuetral" shit, what do you KNOW and what are you ABOUT
 

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Re: Ice Cube - Everythang's Currupt
« Reply #84 on: November 04, 2012, 02:47:03 PM »
^^ lmao @ u and that song


i know yall arent actually going to let Matty punk yall on this 1 lol smh.  he's not even from North America, let alone the US.  In fact, his only connection to North America is from this site smh.  


yo Matty, how about we leave the social commentary of the United States to it's citizens.  I'll take an Anti-Obama socialist over a Global Conspiracy Theorist anyday.  this undermining of Ice Cube and Obama is some kinda joke right?  


I'll listn to the song in the morning time when i can crank it up at the highest volume for the entire world to hear but i know yall arent going to let some European Conspiracy Expert dictate this thread lol, foh.  There's so many holes in their arguements already its hard to say where to start.

just the one response, sorry guys :laugh:

cube isn't even giving obama props on this like some people on this board. but the fact he's the 'leader' and not being explicitly critisized makes the message way too ambiguous. the most political potent message any black rapper could make in 2012 is to directly call out obama. the propaganda runs strong indeed. didn't he orginally campaign on stopping lobbying in washington or something?

and about being able to comment on the US...there's the small matter of a globalised financial system and the US$ as reserve currency. if that doesn't directly effect everyone on the planet i don't know that does. most people benefit from it, but thanks to bad management and corruption over several decades it's about to have it's day. definitely past the point of no return now.

if saying that both major US parties and the financial system is corrupt is still a conspiracy theory i don't know what to say. saying that shapeshifting extradimensional lizards are ruling the world is a conspiracy theory, see the difference? the former is a conspiracy fact. i could point to recent events like MF Global, the LIBOR scandal, but that probably wouldn't mean anything. there's always been systemic corruption, just that shit has run its path and the rule of law is openly being flouted to stop things from falling apart. these phoney elections where neither candidate talks to the real issues should be insulting to most americans. if you vote for obama and shit all goes south in the next couple of years, you know exactly who to blame. and it's not obama, or george bush.

i genuinely try not to comment on this stuff anymore cause it's futile on a lot of levels. but to see a rapper like cube go in the right direction and latch onto all the discontent while not really saying anything of subtance, is a bit frustrating.

rant over :pirate:

Just curious, why does it have to be a black rapper calling out Obama? If Cube does not feel that way about him then that becomes more a perference or an opinion. Lupe Fiasco "spoke" out against Obama, called him a terrorist but hey thats his opinion.

because if a white rapper said it, people would probably use their race to rationalise an opposing opinion against obama. exactly the kind of dumb thinking you come to expect from people. if cube doesn't feel strongly about obama being a bad president, then he has his head in the clouds. time will tell as he'll almost definitely be getting a second term. we'll see if this big recovery materializes ;)

I think "if" and the big word there is if, Cube is going the direction of more political on this album, he definitely is not going to give his entire thought process on one song. Over the years that is one knock I've had on Cube because I for one believe he could be an incredible orator on social commentary in America. Underrated storyteller. As for Obama/Romney to me it's pick your poison.


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Re: Ice Cube - Everythang's Currupt
« Reply #85 on: November 05, 2012, 03:08:43 AM »
The Entire Political System went to shit when the system became a two party system essentially (Republican and Democrat). Yes I know their are others, but they rarely have the founding, nor the legacy as these two longingly established social parties. Hell they've even Switched grounds when it came to the racial demographic, and the whole Social aspect (Read the History and then look at it today). But the problem with the Two party system is that it's essentially a insanity test. Regardless of which party wins, they are still showcasing the same ideals under the guise of a fresh look. Some completely self-destruct under the position (Bush for example) but the reality is it really all depends on Congress. Congress Creates the laws, and is generally have greater effect on the institution that is America. Who ever controls the Majority in Congress controls the Country. Any Law the President Rejects congress can be portrayed as a incompetent leader and be impeached. But the issue with Congress is the Two Party System.


The President is more or less a lightning rod position. Taking Hits from the American Pubic, Responsibility for the failure of the other branches of government, and taking the good that comes with it. You wanna change America, You gotta change out Congress, Look at how many times Congress has shown incompetence, failure, yet these people still hold positions because their seats have no Term Limit, The President has 4 Years minimum, a maximum of 8. But a member of Congress can just get elected again and again and again, and the Media rarely concentrates on these elections so the same assholes get in because their base has no one challenging them.
 

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« Reply #86 on: November 05, 2012, 05:22:00 AM »
And as far as Cube with his previous albums regarding social commentary: Death Certificate was the prophecy, The Predator was the street report AFTER the prophecy was fullfilled. The topic: race relations in America as it pertains to South Central Los Angeles.

small topic compared to the most important issues of today.

Never said that is wasn't. Getting the vibe from people that they forgot the other albums Cube was talking about issues when they say he never covered shit. At that time frame that was a very important issue, I lived it.

yeah i might have been too harsh, i never said he never covered shit though. i agree that death certificate and the predator were precursors and very relevant (i used the word in my previous post i think), but that relevancy came from his angle as a reporter and a primary source, not a commentator. i've always thought he was overrated as a so-called social commentator because his opinions were never that articulate to me and cube has had racist opinions in his lyrics towards koreans among others.
 

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« Reply #87 on: November 05, 2012, 06:26:22 AM »
The Entire Political System went to shit when the system became a two party system essentially (Republican and Democrat). Yes I know their are others, but they rarely have the founding, nor the legacy as these two longingly established social parties. Hell they've even Switched grounds when it came to the racial demographic, and the whole Social aspect (Read the History and then look at it today). But the problem with the Two party system is that it's essentially a insanity test. Regardless of which party wins, they are still showcasing the same ideals under the guise of a fresh look. Some completely self-destruct under the position (Bush for example) but the reality is it really all depends on Congress. Congress Creates the laws, and is generally have greater effect on the institution that is America. Who ever controls the Majority in Congress controls the Country. Any Law the President Rejects congress can be portrayed as a incompetent leader and be impeached. But the issue with Congress is the Two Party System.


The President is more or less a lightning rod position. Taking Hits from the American Pubic, Responsibility for the failure of the other branches of government, and taking the good that comes with it. You wanna change America, You gotta change out Congress, Look at how many times Congress has shown incompetence, failure, yet these people still hold positions because their seats have no Term Limit, The President has 4 Years minimum, a maximum of 8. But a member of Congress can just get elected again and again and again, and the Media rarely concentrates on these elections so the same assholes get in because their base has no one challenging them.

Very good point. And hundreds of well-meaning lobbyists help the congress-men with their decisions, for the good of the people.
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« Reply #89 on: November 07, 2012, 11:37:26 AM »
gonna be a cd single?!
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« Reply #90 on: November 07, 2012, 09:35:06 PM »
gonna be a cd single?!
Yeah I wanna get this track proper instead of the downloaded version I got from youtube.
 

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« Reply #91 on: November 07, 2012, 09:38:04 PM »








And the Track is produced by Fred Wreck !!!!!!!!!
 

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« Reply #92 on: November 07, 2012, 10:04:10 PM »
^damn, doesnt really sound like a traditional fredwreck production, but still pretty good.
 

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« Reply #93 on: November 08, 2012, 02:32:53 AM »
Ice cubes music and beats were never that great to me , his honesty and vocals is his thing
 

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« Reply #94 on: November 08, 2012, 03:14:02 AM »
^damn, doesnt really sound like a traditional fredwreck production, but still pretty good.

right, never tought that's fredwerck.
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« Reply #95 on: November 08, 2012, 05:41:20 AM »
Ice Cube iz The King! Much Respect!!!
 

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« Reply #96 on: November 08, 2012, 01:56:33 PM »








And the Track is produced by Fred Wreck !!!!!!!!!

Really? When I first heard it I thought of this straight away
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« Reply #97 on: November 16, 2012, 12:24:15 PM »
"i created this gangsta shit...and this the muthafukking thanks i get?"
 

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Re: Ice Cube - Everythang's Currupt
« Reply #98 on: November 16, 2012, 01:20:28 PM »
lol.  nah u were but i c u



and actually, let me be technical.  they didnt say 2-3 Presidents, they said 10 years.  my mistake on the lack of elaboration

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Re: Ice Cube - Everythang's Currupt
« Reply #99 on: October 20, 2014, 04:47:38 PM »
so is this album dropping tomorrow ?