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Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2013, 04:13:27 PM »

I respect M Dogg for bringing this up, this is a BIG deal, the usage of drones is essentially a model, or a prototype of future warfare and yes of course you are right that soldiers commit heinous acts but the use of drones takes things to a new level simply because those drones are being operated by someone perhaps thousands of miles away and so there is a complete disconnect between their actions and the devastation it causes. It's also a big deal because soldiers do have the ability to not massacre, the reality is that drones being utilised now are simply the first wave, the second wave will not be controlled by a human operator as robotic warfare rears it's nefarious head. By the way M Dogg the only thing I would say is don't forget the women being killed in these attacks too.

These are all sickening war crimes, you can't murder a group of 40 because a person of interest is in attendance at a wedding, but they do. Fuck what your friends say, seriously, they don't have to agree with you, but at least they can respect you have principles.
 

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Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2013, 06:01:17 PM »
Drones are the height of cowardice and dishonor. If war isn't dangerous for both sides, wars never end.
 

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Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2013, 10:32:23 AM »
They can kill each other all they want. But we control our government and we should demand that our military and drones not kill people who are no threat to us.

That's why I am glad we didn't go into Syria. Let them figure out their own war. It is time to leave Afghanistan. If we want until they stop kill each other  we will never leave.

So it's cool if kids die, as long as we don't kill them.  I get it.

It's not cool when kids die, but we shouldn't be the ones killing them. We need to remove our troops and let the people of those nations hold others accountable.

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Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2013, 06:22:05 AM »
Drone strikes are much preferred to the alternative.  And in that part of the world, a 15 year old boy already has a wife an kids of his own.  They are considered men extra early and it's an honor for them to fight.  Don't let your western upbringing cloud the fact that many of those "children" are more mature than you or I.
So fucking true. That is sig worthy right there. Americans and westerners in general really piss me off with their ignorance. But i guess i cant talk, i aint religious so iam ignorant to being brainwashed or being spiritual and have such strong faith and enlightenment..
 We are all guilty of being ignorant to what we dont understand or how we have been raised/brainwashed/controlled/led to believe/told what is right and wrong/acceptable/unacceptable,normal/not normal, etc.
 But yes in many parts of the world you are an adult much sooner than us westerners, raised to marry, breed, fight/kill , etc. But the do gooders fail to see this or fail to take note even when they see it.
 Oh the children...gimmie a break.
  if they had the power to kill western children(the ones in power over there) best believe that they would.
 
Drones are the height of cowardice and dishonor. If war isn't dangerous for both sides, wars never end.
Thats bullshit. Its being superior, having greater technology/the advantage and using it. Why send in men to die or be captured when you have machines? its common sense, its also them testing out their equipment and gaining valuable data.
 Not saying its right or wrong but if you've got the tech why the fuck not use it? its 2013.
 EDIT: oh and honour? who the fuck fights for honour? Most fight for power and self gain or to protect themselves and others. The Japanese aint been fighting for some time. Is fighting for power honarable? is fighting for religion honarable? fighting loyally for a bad leader honarable?
 Western nations are just big multicultural lands being mixed breeded, theres no real need to fight for honour when your own country dosent even have an identity or pure race any more. IMO anyways^^;
 
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Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2013, 01:39:05 PM »
Drone strikes are much preferred to the alternative.  And in that part of the world, a 15 year old boy already has a wife an kids of his own.  They are considered men extra early and it's an honor for them to fight.  Don't let your western upbringing cloud the fact that many of those "children" are more mature than you or I.
So fucking true. That is sig worthy right there. Americans and westerners in general really piss me off with their ignorance. But i guess i cant talk, i aint religious so iam ignorant to being brainwashed or being spiritual and have such strong faith and enlightenment..
 We are all guilty of being ignorant to what we dont understand or how we have been raised/brainwashed/controlled/led to believe/told what is right and wrong/acceptable/unacceptable,normal/not normal, etc.
 But yes in many parts of the world you are an adult much sooner than us westerners, raised to marry, breed, fight/kill , etc. But the do gooders fail to see this or fail to take note even when they see it.
 Oh the children...gimmie a break.
  if they had the power to kill western children(the ones in power over there) best believe that they would.
 
Drones are the height of cowardice and dishonor. If war isn't dangerous for both sides, wars never end.
Thats bullshit. Its being superior, having greater technology/the advantage and using it. Why send in men to die or be captured when you have machines? its common sense, its also them testing out their equipment and gaining valuable data.
 Not saying its right or wrong but if you've got the tech why the fuck not use it? its 2013.
 EDIT: oh and honour? who the fuck fights for honour? Most fight for power and self gain or to protect themselves and others. The Japanese aint been fighting for some time. Is fighting for power honarable? is fighting for religion honarable? fighting loyally for a bad leader honarable?
 Western nations are just big multicultural lands being mixed breeded, theres no real need to fight for honour when your own country dosent even have an identity or pure race any more. IMO anyways^^;
 

So because kids will die, we should be the ones to kill them. It's time to get out of this Cold War mentality of being the police of the world and get the fuck out of wars.

Here is a list of wars involving the United States:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States

Then to look at it, fight wars and we don't win them because we fight endless wars where you can't win. So what the world is fucked up. It can be as fucked up as it wants to be. But don't get us thrown into it.
 

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Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
« Reply #30 on: April 29, 2013, 11:12:25 PM »
 ^Pretty much yeah, Leave everyone alone America, stop trying to control and fucking change everyone. BUT, having said that America also has done ans dose do alot of good and i think some countries would be better off if they became westernized but its not anyone's right to force them to change.
 America being the world government dose give a sense of security in one sense but also makes the world hate them in another sense so i dunno..?
 Westernisation of the world has its pros and cons.
 Speaking of getting dragged along, Australia is a perfect example of this. We are basicly Americas puppets. We are Americas allies and will go to war for them(not that we have army lol) so that turns people against America too.
 But then if shit were to go down we would want to be on Americas side so yeah..
 Innocent kids dying dose suck but i think its unavoidable to some extent. Unless America were to just never ever stick their nose in any other nation ever again, but as mentioned those people kill their own so..?
 Iam sitting on the fence. lol
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2013, 04:48:42 PM »
I want to start putting the list of dead children on Facebook and Twitter, still might for Twitter. Put up images and to whole thing. Still not sure as I have some narrow minded friends.

Would you rather have boots on the ground which could significantly increase casualties?  Also there are quite a few 15+ year old males there that could very well have been involved in activities deemed missile worthy.  This is also assuming the hippies doing the counting are at all accurate....  If you believe their list, then you might also want to buy some bridges in Brooklyn.
exactly what i was thinking. not to mention in those countries youre considered a "child" till about age 10 most likely

its interesting how western people like to apply double standards. we fight for western standard peace and human rights but when we kill someone at a young age, we happily accept the standards of the country we attack to justify our misdeed
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Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
« Reply #32 on: May 04, 2013, 05:12:42 PM »
I want to start putting the list of dead children on Facebook and Twitter, still might for Twitter. Put up images and to whole thing. Still not sure as I have some narrow minded friends.

Would you rather have boots on the ground which could significantly increase casualties?  Also there are quite a few 15+ year old males there that could very well have been involved in activities deemed missile worthy.  This is also assuming the hippies doing the counting are at all accurate....  If you believe their list, then you might also want to buy some bridges in Brooklyn.
exactly what i was thinking. not to mention in those countries youre considered a "child" till about age 10 most likely

its interesting how western people like to apply double standards. we fight for western standard peace and human rights but when we kill someone at a young age, we happily accept the standards of the country we attack to justify our misdeed
im saying that its likely teenagers in these countries are involved with the military/terrorist groups

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Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
« Reply #33 on: May 05, 2013, 06:52:14 AM »
I want to start putting the list of dead children on Facebook and Twitter, still might for Twitter. Put up images and to whole thing. Still not sure as I have some narrow minded friends.

Would you rather have boots on the ground which could significantly increase casualties?  Also there are quite a few 15+ year old males there that could very well have been involved in activities deemed missile worthy.  This is also assuming the hippies doing the counting are at all accurate....  If you believe their list, then you might also want to buy some bridges in Brooklyn.
exactly what i was thinking. not to mention in those countries youre considered a "child" till about age 10 most likely

its interesting how western people like to apply double standards. we fight for western standard peace and human rights but when we kill someone at a young age, we happily accept the standards of the country we attack to justify our misdeed

While this is true, EVERYBODY likes to apply double standards. That said, no matter how much of a backwards ass country Yemen might be, it's not our business what they do there. No matter how just the cause we think we're fighting for is, in the end it always is just another spun story to benefit some wealthy fucks' interests.
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Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2013, 02:45:18 AM »
its interesting how western people like to apply double standards. we fight for western standard peace and human rights but when we kill someone at a young age, we happily accept the standards of the country we attack to justify our misdeed

Amen!
They have now a thing called "Signature" Drone strikes. Look it up is a technical/legal term.
That means if they suspect suspicious behavior in a country 10.000 miles of your coast.
That suspicion is enough to call in een Drone strike.
No trial, no evidence, just swift "Justice" in the name of Freedom and Democracy.

That said, today it is people in those third world countries that get the end of the stick.
Tomorrow you find yourself under Drone surveillance.
They already have plans for more Drones inside the US.

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Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2013, 07:59:55 AM »
Some of you guys are heartless fucks. They're CHILDREN. Just because their not American children, y'all passing it off as pretty much "collateral damage", gtfoh.

And that some of you actually think these CHILDREN are involved with "terrorist organisations", SMH, absolute dumb fucks with your ridiculous assumptions.

 

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« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2013, 08:17:38 AM »
Some of you guys are heartless fucks. They're CHILDREN. Just because their not American children, y'all passing it off as pretty much "collateral damage", gtfoh.

And that some of you actually think these CHILDREN are involved with "terrorist organisations", SMH, absolute dumb fucks with your ridiculous assumptions.



For all I know a 14- or 15-year-old could very well be joining a resistance group willing to fight. But since he did that because half of his family was propably killed by a drone strike it seems rather understandable.

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Re: List of Children Killed by US (Drone Strikes) in Yemen and Pakistan
« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2013, 08:35:23 AM »
People here try to over reason things. This coming from a guy they accuse of over reasoning. But there is an aspect of human life, and us killing the innocents of children around the world.

I cannot stand it anymore. We have children die on our country because of a gun culture, we kill even MORE children around the world because of our war culture. Our nation is a country headed for moral bankruptcy.
 

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« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2013, 10:30:07 AM »
People here try to over reason things. This coming from a guy they accuse of over reasoning. But there is an aspect of human life, and us killing the innocents of children around the world.

I cannot stand it anymore. We have children die on our country because of a gun culture, we kill even MORE children around the world because of our war culture. Our nation is a country headed for moral bankruptcy.

Well, I guess, at least partly, that's the result of a culture that's so fixated on material bullshit. At some point you gonna get too many people that are ignorant towards everything that doesn't directly affect their pockets. Germany is only little behind in that aspect. 40-50 years ago there were big anti-war movements, today it's "who care's, I gotta get mine".

Edit: Everytime I read a comment online critisizing someone AT LEAST 3 people answer "who are you to talk? XXX makes more money in a week than you'll make in your whole life!" In which screwed up mindset is that a legitimite point for ANYTHING if you're not Ric Flair? It just shows how effectively indoctrinated people are.
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