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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #50 on: July 15, 2013, 08:55:53 AM »
Not surprised in the least, but I am very sad about it. Held my son and told him he ain't going to the store by himself until he is 18 and dresses like a nerd. He looked at me weird and said, "I two." Still, I was very sad. But to say I'm surprised would be a stretch, just didn't think I'd actually react to not guilty.

Old saying goes, non-violence is for people of color, violence is for the privilege.

http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/324906/19/Fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots

Come on MDogg... I know you always want to take the Liberal stance.. but my son is black and I wouldn't say anything like that to him.   

...and as for rappers on Twitter, I know Snoop wasn't one of those rappers speaking out on twitter because he got off on self-defense after pursuing his victim in a car and Snoop wasn't even gettin his ass beat at the time of the murder.

anybody have a list of what rappers spoke out on Twitter?

Read my post above, I explain it further. I got that saying from an old American Indian who has seen this first hand. Hell, I've seen abuse of power first hand. There is something there. BUT once you have money and privilege, that breaks the cycle. Ask OJ. Of course once OJ lost all his money, he is now in jail.
 

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #51 on: July 15, 2013, 08:58:26 AM »
But the bottom line, Zimmerman didn't know Trayvon stole jewelry before, and the night of the fight Trayvon looked nothing like a criminal, but more like a common teenager. Zimmerman should have stand down and let the cops handle it. Instead he got his ass kicked by a tougher kid who thought Zimmerman was stalking him. As a man, someone stalks me, I'd kick his ass too.
 

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #52 on: July 15, 2013, 10:46:56 AM »
LMAO at lean or weed making you violent... GTFO y'all are reaching
 

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #53 on: July 15, 2013, 10:51:27 AM »
Sounds like the so called "child" overpowered half whitey, part south American, part African and when slamming his head into the floor repeatedly with Zimmerman screaming for help may have ended up killing him. Zimmerman was stupid following him, absolutely right to defend himself.
 

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #54 on: July 15, 2013, 11:34:35 AM »
Y'all heard about the white kid who got jumped and burned to death by two black kids? Nope because the media didn't push that story forward.

link or it didnt happen.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/03/was_boy_in_kc_fire_attack_a_victim_of_his_schools_racist_teaching.html
 

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #55 on: July 15, 2013, 11:37:26 AM »
SO INFINITE, U THINK ZIMMERMAN WAS RIGHT IN KILLING DUDE?
 

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #56 on: July 15, 2013, 11:50:56 AM »
That's why this picture is in the middle of the sidewalk.

(warning, very disturbing)
http://gawker.com/this-courtesy-of-msnbc-is-trayvon-martins-dead-body-753370712

Evidence that the prosecution didn't focus on, Martin's body was not even close to the sidewalk. So Zimmerman must have drug Martin to the grass after he shot him.
 

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #57 on: July 15, 2013, 12:41:00 PM »
Or after getting shot in the chest he staggered and fell onto the grass.
In any case M Dogg, I find your whole apologetic "the boy did nothing" routine plainly false and the media would not have to resort to such deceptions if there was anything remote iron clad about this notion of cold blooded murder.

The lacerations are a dead give away
The brain washing tactic of displaying this kid as a child is a dead give away
This presentation of Zimmerman as white when he is multi racial is a dead give away
The editing of 911 tapes to portray Zimmerman as the one who said he is black so I am going to follow him is a dead give away
The reaction of many black people to this who could give a flying shit about their "brothers" being murdered by other blacks is a dead give away
The almost total blanket silence on REAL prolonged murerous torture suffered at the hands of black racists is a dead give away.
The "oh but he had a gun" is a dead give away of the legally carried firearm is a dead give away.
The disgusting political interference in this "if I had a son he would look like Trayvon Martin" which attempted to racialise and galvanise the bewitched loyal supporters of Obama.

It's all bullshit, amazing, that given the state of America, nevermind the social ills affecting the rest of the world that one family's tragedy can so successfully distract while everything goes to shit.


 

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #58 on: July 15, 2013, 12:54:26 PM »

God bless these poor babies http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=depleted+uranium+images+of+babies&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=blHkUeWRIYSQ0AWujoDYCA&ved=0CC0QsAQ&biw=1525&bih=741

Now that is the type of stuff which should fuel the anger in people as it's absolutely heart breaking, vile, and it's still going on but most people could give a fuck, give them a "victim" though especially a black victim who wasn't some innocent child and they cry for days, hold vigils, start pathetic marches, issue disgusting statements about white people and generally feel "strong and emboldened"

 

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #59 on: July 15, 2013, 01:01:14 PM »
But the bottom line, Zimmerman didn't know Trayvon stole jewelry before, and the night of the fight Trayvon looked nothing like a criminal, but more like a common teenager. Zimmerman should have stand down and let the cops handle it. Instead he got his ass kicked by a tougher kid who thought Zimmerman was stalking him. As a man, someone stalks me, I'd kick his ass too.

1.  trayvon was a thief, and him acting like one on the night he was killed isnt much of a leap of faith here. 

2.  zimmerman was a neighborhood watch, supposed to look out for theives.

3.  and if you attacked someone and bashed their head in on the sidewalk, and you did this to an armed man who was doing nothing but HIS JOB for his community, then if you got blasted in the chest i'd say that you in fact started the altercation and he defended himself against you.  dont start a fight unless you are really protecting yourself and you have to, or this can happen.  bottom line.

he wasnt some innocent young boy, the guy was mixed up in things that, I find it sooooo ironically funny, were EXACTLY the things that Zimmerman was supposed to be looking out for.  and instead of acting like a scared kid (maybe he wasnt) and GOING HOME, he attacked him like a man or even a criminal wouldve.  But this all happened because of race and zimmermans racist thoughts or socioeconomic profiling or a broken justice system blah blah blah.  Uh huh.

people like CM and others on here dont look at things deeper than race and what twitter tell them to think, but you seem at least like a thoughtful person.  Which means logic and fact should at least partly appeal to you, mdogg.
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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #60 on: July 15, 2013, 01:14:16 PM »
I see a lot of false and insensitive shit bein' said in this thread that boy lost his life because Zimmerman acted in ignorance and not self defense and his parents lost a son. picture your kid(s) or yourself bein' murdered. would you think you or your child's killer would be justified then ?
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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #61 on: July 15, 2013, 01:19:51 PM »
you guys are all gay.


...and for the last time i DONT look like zimmerman  ;D ;D ;D



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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #62 on: July 15, 2013, 01:32:53 PM »
It's not as cut and dry as you put it out to be. If it was that cut and dry, Trayvon Martin would have done something to put him on death row. Was George Zimmerman's life in danger, NO. I've been in many fights, looked the same way. Did Trayvon reach for the gun, NO. DNA evidence came up that there was no DNA of Trayvon on the gun or holster. If you are on top of someone, do you fly across the lawn when shot, not if the gun is only a 9mm. Also, Zimmerman claimed he laid Martin on his belly, when it's obvious Martin was on his back. Also, what is weird is there is no blood on the front of Martin's body. Had Martin been shot on top of Zimmerman, then blood would rush down, to Martin's chest. The blood must have rushed to the back. Now I personally have no problems believing Martin was on top because Martin being on his back is also consistent with Zimmerman turning Martin over so he can crawl from underneath. But if Martin was on top, he'd have been shot facing down and would have fallen on top of Zimmerman, causing the blood to rush to his chest area therefore making his hoodie bloody. A 9mm is NOT going to make Martin fly backwards.
 

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #63 on: July 15, 2013, 01:44:23 PM »
It's not a fight if the one guy has barely a mark on him and the other has lacerations on his head, how many more blows like that do you think the head can withstand?

Pull another one M Dogg, a fight gives the notion of some kind of to and fro, what has been described was not a fight, it was a brutal unrelenting beating.
 

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #64 on: July 15, 2013, 01:51:11 PM »
I see a lot of false and insensitive shit bein' said in this thread that boy lost his life because Zimmerman acted in ignorance and not self defense and his parents lost a son. picture your kid(s) or yourself bein' murdered. would you think you or your child's killer would be justified then ?

What false shit?  Be specific.

Insensitive?  The truth is often inconvenient, but I am open to hearing your retort to what myself and others have clearly said about this case here in this thread.

If it was my child?  I hope i wouldve taught him enough sense to not put himself in the position that trayvon did.  trayvon couldve left just as easily as zimmerman.  zimmerman was doing his job and trayvon picked a petty fight over it.  and he lost his life.  he probably thought fighting was cool and a good way to release stress, like a lot of immature people do, and he paid the ultimate price for it.

but, i digress.

again, please feel free to point out what was false about anything ive said, or anyone else you are so obviously calling a liar here.
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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #65 on: July 15, 2013, 02:31:52 PM »
It's not a fight if the one guy has barely a mark on him and the other has lacerations on his head, how many more blows like that do you think the head can withstand?

Pull another one M Dogg, a fight gives the notion of some kind of to and fro, what has been described was not a fight, it was a brutal unrelenting beating.

 Brutal? Really, ever been in a fight? I've won fights and looked as bad as Zimmerman. Dude got his ass kicked, does that mean Martin deserved to die? Because he can win a fight?
 

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #66 on: July 15, 2013, 02:32:53 PM »
I see a lot of false and insensitive shit bein' said in this thread that boy lost his life because Zimmerman acted in ignorance and not self defense and his parents lost a son. picture your kid(s) or yourself bein' murdered. would you think you or your child's killer would be justified then ?

What false shit?  Be specific.

Insensitive?  The truth is often inconvenient, but I am open to hearing your retort to what myself and others have clearly said about this case here in this thread.

If it was my child?  I hope i wouldve taught him enough sense to not put himself in the position that trayvon did.  trayvon couldve left just as easily as zimmerman.  zimmerman was doing his job and trayvon picked a petty fight over it.  and he lost his life.  he probably thought fighting was cool and a good way to release stress, like a lot of immature people do, and he paid the ultimate price for it.

but, i digress.

again, please feel free to point out what was false about anything ive said, or anyone else you are so obviously calling a liar here.

Exactly my point, people think that people of color always need to be non violent.
 

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #67 on: July 15, 2013, 02:50:20 PM »
I see a lot of false and insensitive shit bein' said in this thread that boy lost his life because Zimmerman acted in ignorance and not self defense and his parents lost a son. picture your kid(s) or yourself bein' murdered. would you think you or your child's killer would be justified then ?

What false shit?  Be specific.

Insensitive?  The truth is often inconvenient, but I am open to hearing your retort to what myself and others have clearly said about this case here in this thread.

If it was my child?  I hope i wouldve taught him enough sense to not put himself in the position that trayvon did.  trayvon couldve left just as easily as zimmerman.  zimmerman was doing his job and trayvon picked a petty fight over it.  and he lost his life.  he probably thought fighting was cool and a good way to release stress, like a lot of immature people do, and he paid the ultimate price for it.

but, i digress.

again, please feel free to point out what was false about anything ive said, or anyone else you are so obviously calling a liar here.

Exactly my point, people think that people of color always need to be non violent.

Cant tell if youre a troll or legitimately dont get it.

If youre "the innocent scared child" you gtf outta there especially when youre next to your destination.

If you have the mindset of a thug or tough guy, you start a physical fight.

Race has nothing to do with it until people like you interject it.

Get off the media talking points, man, seriously.  It makes you look dumb.
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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #68 on: July 15, 2013, 02:54:13 PM »
It's not a fight if the one guy has barely a mark on him and the other has lacerations on his head, how many more blows like that do you think the head can withstand?

Pull another one M Dogg, a fight gives the notion of some kind of to and fro, what has been described was not a fight, it was a brutal unrelenting beating.

 Brutal? Really, ever been in a fight? I've won fights and looked as bad as Zimmerman. Dude got his ass kicked, does that mean Martin deserved to die? Because he can win a fight?

1.  All that forensic stuff you brought up, how much of it was introduced into court?

2.  If youre getting youre head beat into the ground literally and face broken literally (facts) then you dont think its a reasonable assumption to believe the guy beating the fuck outta you isnt gonna stop until youre dead or unconscious?   
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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #69 on: July 15, 2013, 03:03:00 PM »
I see a lot of false and insensitive shit bein' said in this thread that boy lost his life because Zimmerman acted in ignorance and not self defense and his parents lost a son. picture your kid(s) or yourself bein' murdered. would you think you or your child's killer would be justified then ?

What false shit?  Be specific.

Insensitive?  The truth is often inconvenient, but I am open to hearing your retort to what myself and others have clearly said about this case here in this thread.

If it was my child?  I hope i wouldve taught him enough sense to not put himself in the position that trayvon did.  trayvon couldve left just as easily as zimmerman.  zimmerman was doing his job and trayvon picked a petty fight over it.  and he lost his life.  he probably thought fighting was cool and a good way to release stress, like a lot of immature people do, and he paid the ultimate price for it.

but, i digress.

again, please feel free to point out what was false about anything ive said, or anyone else you are so obviously calling a liar here.

Exactly my point, people think that people of color always need to be non violent.

Cant tell if youre a troll or legitimately dont get it.

If youre "the innocent scared child" you gtf outta there especially when youre next to your destination.

If you have the mindset of a thug or tough guy, you start a physical fight.

Race has nothing to do with it until people like you interject it.

Get off the media talking points, man, seriously.  It makes you look dumb.

Race has nothing to do with it, it's all about privilege, and not white privilege because Zimmerman is brown. But the public for some reason feels Martin deserved to die because he didn't act like a scared kid. That's wrong.
 

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #70 on: July 15, 2013, 03:05:37 PM »
It's not a fight if the one guy has barely a mark on him and the other has lacerations on his head, how many more blows like that do you think the head can withstand?

Pull another one M Dogg, a fight gives the notion of some kind of to and fro, what has been described was not a fight, it was a brutal unrelenting beating.

 Brutal? Really, ever been in a fight? I've won fights and looked as bad as Zimmerman. Dude got his ass kicked, does that mean Martin deserved to die? Because he can win a fight?

1.  All that forensic stuff you brought up, how much of it was introduced into court?

2.  If youre getting youre head beat into the ground literally and face broken literally (facts) then you dont think its a reasonable assumption to believe the guy beating the fuck outta you isnt gonna stop until youre dead or unconscious?   

1. Hardly any, which is why MANY law experiences feel the prosecution sucked. The jury did nothing wrong, the courts did nothing wrong.

2. Those aren't facts. Zimmerman's head wasn't close to concrete and he could have verbally said, "I give up."
 

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #71 on: July 15, 2013, 03:26:59 PM »
I dont see how it was immature for someone to defend themselves when a person approaches them after profiling them as a 'hood' or 'thug' and initiates an altercation. This never happens if Zimmerman doesnt follow this kid. If you are on neighborhood watch, u watch out for crimes, not fir anyone walking down the street, what after a certain time in the night u cant walk down the street?

And what else was Trayvon suppose to do, run away? U run away, it makes it look like u did something wrong and he obviously didnt so he 'stood his ground' like the defense claims Zimmerman did, except Zimmerman had to use a gun

Typical..

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #72 on: July 15, 2013, 03:58:24 PM »

You are so full of it M Dogg, Zimmerman was screaming for help, at ANY time Trayvon had "won" the fight, could have left his beaten ass on the floor and ran, he reached for his gun in desperation no doubt, in fear of his life.
 

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« Reply #73 on: July 15, 2013, 04:20:38 PM »
some interesting information about both of them

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #74 on: July 15, 2013, 04:23:29 PM »
One, we don't know if Martin let up, and two, evidence proved Martin didn't reach for Zimmerman's gun.