Author Topic: MAYWEATHER VS ALVAREZ: LIVE STREAM  (Read 1272 times)

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Re: MAYWEATHER VS ALVAREZ: LIVE STREAM
« Reply #45 on: September 25, 2013, 11:27:13 AM »
I've never heard of this guy. Arum you say? No. Never in the 15 years that I've been watching Boxing religiously, have I heard of Bob Arum. Not even in the years prior where I watched Boxing with my dad, had I heard of such a person. I unfortunately, do not feel up to the challenge to punch in the name Bob Arum to my Googler and gather information on him. Please, Russell Bell, educate me on Bob Arum.
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Re: MAYWEATHER VS ALVAREZ: LIVE STREAM
« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2013, 08:44:23 PM »
Mayweather isn't just defense either. Since the 90's, once they started tracking the accuracy of boxers, Floyd has the highest percentage. The biggest weakness Floyd has is that his hands are very weak. He's able to be dominant with weak hands, let that sink in. That's the only reason I think if he was boxing in the late 70's and 80's, he would have trouble. But Floyd with healthy hands, would probably beat anybody in any era, especially during his lightweight reign. That's basically what prevents him from being entertaining to the mainstream fan. He can't take the same offensive risks as he used to.


Floyd's greatness is tough to compare to another sport. He's shown to be a chameleon in the ring. He literally uses every single tool he knows, but it all depends on who his opponent is. Before the fight, ESPN had a chart on what advantages each fighter has. On the subject of combination punches, they had Canelo with the advantage. In the actual fight, Floyd was backing up Canelo with combinations. Floyd adapts to his opponent's weakness, or what he feels works best. The Spurs can't become a run and gun team from Game 1 to Game 2. The Dodgers don't become a small ball team in Game 1 and switch to the long ball for Game 2. Floyd? He can take the fight to you on the inside. (They'll say he has no legs though). Next fight, he looks a damn 20 year old moving around vs Guerrero. Floyd can be dirty if he has to. Floyd can pot shot. Floyd can throw combinations. Marquez is too slow for the check left hook? That's his main weapon. Guerrero has no answer for the lead right hand? That's his main weapon. Canelo gets uncomfortable with a constant jab? That's his main weapon. Hatton is frustrated every time he has to reset thanks to a jab to the body? That's what he gets. And these are just recent examples of his greatness. We're witnessing absolute greatness from a 36 year old in the sport.
 

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Re: MAYWEATHER VS ALVAREZ: LIVE STREAM
« Reply #47 on: September 25, 2013, 10:26:22 PM »
I've never heard of this guy. Arum you say? No. Never in the 15 years that I've been watching Boxing religiously, have I heard of Bob Arum. Not even in the years prior where I watched Boxing with my dad, had I heard of such a person. I unfortunately, do not feel up to the challenge to punch in the name Bob Arum to my Googler and gather information on him. Please, Russell Bell, educate me on Bob Arum.

Well, your thinly veiled sarcasm reveals your thinly veiled ignorance my friend.

I'll take that "response" as you saying "yes I know of Bob Arum but I truly do not understand his role in keeping the Pacquio Mayweather fight from happening".
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Re: MAYWEATHER VS ALVAREZ: LIVE STREAM
« Reply #48 on: September 26, 2013, 07:24:21 AM »
It was thinly veiled, it was full on sarcasm. It was more of a ridiculous answer for a ridiculous question.

What Boxing fan out there isn't aware of Arum's issues with negotiating? I remember when GBP offered Arum and Donaire a fight with Mares. GBP released the Contract to show that Arum, Donaire and his camp were dodging the fight.

I've never once said that Floyd is the only guilty party. Simply, that he is ducking Manny. Everything Floyd does and says has a purpose. For him, the fight starts way before the Contract is signed.

He's offered Manny to take a 40% split of the fight, whereas he takes 60%. He's offered Manny a flat 40 Mil. Now, he's offering Manny to sign with him for the fight to be made. See, ignorance is seeing that as negotiating. Negotiations get better over time, not worse.

Manny offered a 45/55 split where Mayweather gets 55. Then he accepted the 60/40 split with Floyd and that's when Floyd introduced the Flat fee. Is that really negotiating? If it is, you would be hands down the worst salesman ever.
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