Who wrote "Keep The Heads Ringin" for Dre? That shit was fire!!

[Sccit]

speaks volumes on general lack of their musical knowledge

Ice Cube somehow could made dope music without SO MUCH help. And exactly the same case with many other artist.

ice cube is great in his own right...but none of em would be where they are witout eazy.

fixed.

it all goes back to Dre being a producer who was years ahead of everyone else in the rap game

money...even eazy can credit dre for his success. initially, eazy was just a business-man who didnt even wanna get involved in the musical aspect of it. dre was the musical genius who put it all together.

[TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96']

Basically, J. Flexx wrote the lyrics, Sam Sneed produced the beat and sold it to Dre for 20000$, so he can tweak it a little bit, mix it and go platinum plus

Yeah.. and that's why J-Flexx and Sam Sneed were able to accomplish so much once they got out of Dre's shadow.  Guess Dre was keepin them down all those years 

[TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96']

j flex wrote some dope shit for dre though like: California love, been there done that, natural born killas. damn I miss those old death row days. 

thanks for the info... damn.. J Flexx was really bringing heat for Dre

[Sccit]

Basically, J. Flexx wrote the lyrics, Sam Sneed produced the beat and sold it to Dre for 20000$, so he can tweak it a little bit, mix it and go platinum plus

Yeah.. and that's why J-Flexx and Sam Sneed were able to accomplish so much once they got out of Dre's shadow.  Guess Dre was keepin them down all those years 

oh, u dint know? dre did absolutely nothing...it woulda been just as big a hit with just sam sneed and j-flexx

[Sir Petey]

what dre needs to do to make these guys understand is set them in a room and sit across the room from them...stare at them for about 30 seconds silently with out blinking. then quietly turn to them and say. "listen as long as your in this studio you are my bitch...any sound you make during the duration of your stay here today will not escape the vacuum of dres vaults unless me or iovene say so. if you break the code that we have set forth you will be black balled and never make another dollar in the music industry....now, with that said do you still want to go into this room and do these tracks nigga?" bark on them niggas on some alpha male shit.

[Sccit]

what dre needs to do to make these guys understand is set them in a room and sit across the room from them...stare at them for about 30 seconds silently with out blinking. then quietly turn to them and say. "listen as long as your in this studio you are my bitch...any sound you make during the duration of your stay here today will not escape the vacuum of dres vaults unless me or iovene say so. if you break the code that we have set forth you will be black balled and never make another dollar in the music industry....now, with that said do you still want to go into this room and do these tracks nigga?" bark on them niggas on some alpha male shit.

funny thing is, thats what cats like okka and mietek really think

[whoisthis]

It's the D-R-E the spectacular
In a party I go for your neck, so call me "Blacula"

More than a Stealth bomber, I cause drama
The enforcer, music floats like a flying saucer

When I rock the spot with the flavor I got
I get plenty of ass, so call me an ass-tronaut

As I blast past another nigga's ass that thought he was strong
But I smoke him like grass, just like Cheech and Chong

Many tried to, but just can't rock with
I'm 6-1, 225: pure chocolate

Pure lyricism at it's finest.

[Sir Petey]

it should really be like that!


these dudes like bishop lamont get to thinking there more pivitol to the movement then they really are and wanna start releasing their own singles and shit and get left in career purgatory for shit like that.

[TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96']

Basically, J. Flexx wrote the lyrics, Sam Sneed produced the beat and sold it to Dre for 20000$, so he can tweak it a little bit, mix it and go platinum plus

Yeah.. and that's why J-Flexx and Sam Sneed were able to accomplish so much once they got out of Dre's shadow.  Guess Dre was keepin them down all those years 

oh, u dint know? dre did absolutely nothing...it woulda been just as big a hit with just sam sneed and j-flexx

No doubt... Dre pretty much owes his career to guys like J-Flexx.  J-Flexx has went on to become a household name, while Dre hasn't amounted to shit since he left J-Flexx side to form the now defunct Aftermath label.

As for Sam Sneed he has gone on to sell dozens of albums through the mega-label Wide Awake.

[TidyKris]

I dont know what to believe when it comes to this but i will say one thing. There are a hell of a lot more people saying Dre
did not make beats then people saying he did.

I hear that for a lot of tracks Dre laid the drum beat down and the session musicians or other producers like Daz etc
would make music around it then Dre would mix and arrange it....now to me that's not a producer. The producer writes
the music. Not just a drum beat and then some arrangement.

Its funny how his early stuff sounded a lot like Daz's stuff and his later stuff sounded like Scott Storch and them. Nowdays he
does not seem to be working with any hot producers and his beats are not very good. People say that when Dre drops
new albums he is re-inventing his sound....now is that right or is he really just taking stuff from a new batch of producers?

Like i say, i dont know what really goes on for sure so im not taking anything away from Dre at all, he is a talent, even if it
is just the way he makes the final product sound even if he did not actually write the music or produce it

[Sccit]

I dont know what to believe when it comes to this but i will say one thing. There are a hell of a lot more people saying Dre
did not make beats then people saying he did.

I hear that for a lot of tracks Dre laid the drum beat down and the session musicians or other producers like Daz etc
would make music around it then Dre would mix and arrange it....now to me that's not a producer. The producer writes
the music. Not just a drum beat and then some arrangement.

Its funny how his early stuff sounded a lot like Daz's stuff and his later stuff sounded like Scott Storch and them. Nowdays he
does not seem to be working with any hot producers and his beats are not very good. People say that when Dre drops
new albums he is re-inventing his sound....now is that right or is he really just taking stuff from a new batch of producers?

Like i say, i dont know what really goes on for sure so im not taking anything away from Dre at all, he is a talent, even if it
is just the way he makes the final product sound even if he did not actually write the music or produce it

Producing does not mean u have to physically sit there and make the beats, it's the ear behind it all... Like he could hum a note and have a live piano player play it and arrange it however his genius sees fit .. If that piano player is an idiot and doesn't know the definition of producer, hell be under the impression that he deserves production credit. .. Go figure the rest

[whoisthis]

The Producer in Hip Hop is typically thought of as the person who makes the beat. But, when you look at say the Phil Spector, Quincy Jones and the like, they were orchestrating the musicians around them to create a sound, directing the vocalist to sing a certain way, etc. That is what Dre is doing. He's a Producer in a traditional sense of the term, not a beat maker.

[HighEyeCue]

It's the D-R-E the spectacular
In a party I go for your neck, so call me "Blacula"

More than a Stealth bomber, I cause drama
The enforcer, music floats like a flying saucer

When I rock the spot with the flavor I got
I get plenty of ass, so call me an ass-tronaut

As I blast past another nigga's ass that thought he was strong
But I smoke him like grass, just like Cheech and Chong

Many tried to, but just can't rock with
I'm 6-1, 225: pure chocolate

Pure lyricism at it's finest.

some of those lines are just embarrasing

[Will_B]

The Producer in Hip Hop is typically thought of as the person who makes the beat. But, when you look at say the Phil Spector, Quincy Jones and the like, they were orchestrating the musicians around them to create a sound, directing the vocalist to sing a certain way, etc. That is what Dre is doing. He's a Producer in a traditional sense of the term, not a beat maker.

This


The modern idea of a producer is what killed creativity for the music - expecting one 'big name' to do everything on his set up instead of a collaborative process with musicians, DJs and samples.

[Russell Bell]

The Producer in Hip Hop is typically thought of as the person who makes the beat. But, when you look at say the Phil Spector, Quincy Jones and the like, they were orchestrating the musicians around them to create a sound, directing the vocalist to sing a certain way, etc. That is what Dre is doing. He's a Producer in a traditional sense of the term, not a beat maker.

This


The modern idea of a producer is what killed creativity for the music - expecting one 'big name' to do everything on his set up instead of a collaborative process with musicians, DJs and samples.

that was actually a very insightful post willy, good one.