u down with obama care?

[Sikotic™]

This thread just got way better.

[Jack Trippa 3z company ho]

Every thread I touch is gold

[Fraxxx]

 

[V2DHeart]

You think the government doesn't already know you smoke weed from monitoring your phone calls/texts dummy? I'm sure the government is compiling a database of all the weed smokers across the country.

When did I say that cock breath? I'm merely providing one of 1000's of examples to my greater point. This is enforced by the IRS. I'm sure that's meaningless to you right? They're just using them as enforcement because they were bored, right?

It's another step toward an economy 100% controlled by govt and extorting the people.

Soon they'll chip your ass, know everything you're consuming. Have 2 beers? Guess what, your car won't start.

The agenda has been in place and very slowly and meticulously being implemented. Not all at once, nice and slow so you simpletons won't even know its happening.

This!

[elmizzy]

I'm not arguing for obamacare dumbfuck. Just don't see your conspiracy theory as a realistic possibility. You don't even know what you're saying yourself. You just said because the government is pushing it, it must be bad. And they are compiling a list of weed smokers. So they could knock on their door. Knock on your door and do what? Tell you they know? Arrest you for the oz you have? You're an idiot. You probably wear a Che Guevara t shirt and listen to Rage Against The Machine.

So the IRS enforcing it is a conspiracy theory? Why are they doing that?

You admit that they spy on every aspect of your life. Why do they do that?

Did it ever occur to you that those they are spying on would include judges, politicians, entertainers, etc for blackmailing purposes?

It is proven fact that they have targeted conservative groups who oppose the current administration via the IRS. Is that still a conspiracy theory in your mind?

And lmao at this dude mocking me w/ Che and RATM memes while having a fuckin ninja turtle in his profile.

You just keep frolicking around in candy land, I'll actually pay attention to reality.

And it was uncovered, as well as the NSA deal. Finally, it took about 3 posts of prodding to get something out of you! I think you give them too much credit to pull off this grand of a scheme. Shits getting uncovered left and right, they won't be able to keep something this big under wraps. Also (federal) judges are insured by FEHB (Federal Employee Health Benefits system), not Obamacare. According to you they should be being blackmailed already. Who gives a shit about entertainers.

I am not defending Obamacare. I'm stating that I don't think it's a spy program like you believe. There may be another hidden agenda, but I don't think they give a shit that you smoke weed or have a few beers and drive. Also, one of your previous points.. the government already knows what you consume, they don't need to chip you. You carry a fucking debit card that logs every purchase you make with it. Everything you purchase from the store has a UPC code. Logged.

People make it so easy, by filling out a Facebook profile about themselves. Listing their interests, home address, phone numbers, their relatives, where they work, religious views, their political views, what tv channels they watch, what books they read, posting on rap forums, and the hours they browse the internet. That NSA spying scandal is just extra cheese on the taco. I'm sure they already had certain people in their crosshairs for that shit. Most of this information you are afraid of them having is already out there.

So if this is a master spy scheme, wouldn't you think Republicans and Democrats would working together on this? Why do the Republicans oppose it so hard? All for show? Maybe. Spy scheme, don't think so. Other hidden agenda, highly likely. You are right about some things, but you are mostly wrong. Now go sip on your Rockstar energy drink and yell "Fuck the government" out your window, Che.

[calilove213]

U arent all fools!!! Argouing about samthing like this that is not impotent....while tupacs assassins our still on tha lose!!! U peopel need to get you're priourities straighter because this is not what u shouldnt be conserned about!!!

[Russell Bell]

U arent all fools!!! Argouing about samthing like this that is not impotent....while tupacs assassins our still on tha lose!!! U peopel need to get you're priourities straighter because this is not what u shouldnt be conserned about!!!

this

[Jack Trippa 3z company ho]

Just read this from drudge report this morning. Exactly what I'm talking about:


Will Insurance Companies Use Smart Appliances to Monitor “Unhealthy” Habits?
                    
Daniel Taylor
Infowars.com
October 22, 2013
Since 2008 Old-Thinker News has been covering the rapidly advancing Internet of Things (IoT). According to CIA chief David Patraeus the IoT will have a monumental impact on “clandestine tradecraft.”

Consumer appliances are now becoming activated and “smart.” RFID chips and wireless internet connections enable devices like televisions, refrigerators, printers, and computers to communicate with each other and generally make life easier for us. This comes at a price, however. Your privacy is eliminated.

A detailed multi-dimensional image of our daily lives will be built with this system. Individuals to entire group dynamics will be tracked. It will be unparalleled in history. Everything from daily travel routes to eating habits will be traceable. Every day objects will be transmitting data 24/7.
Now, insurance companies are anticipating this hyper-connected future. Will they spy on your eating habits and hike your health insurance costs?

As Mike Adams reported in March of this year, grocery store loyalty cards are being tracked by insurance companies to deny claims and raise health insurance rates. As the Wall Street Journal reported in early 2013, your company already knows whether you’ve been taking your meds, getting your teeth cleaned and going for regular medical checkups. Now some employers or their insurance companies are tracking what staffers eat, where they shop and how much weight they’re putting on — and taking action to keep them in line.

In the November-December issue of The Futurist, Richard Yonck writes, “In a world of total connectivity, the rate at which a household consumes sugar, salt, tobacco, and alcohol would potentially be an open book to insurers seeking to control costs.”

With the internet of things, spying on “unhealthy” habits will be a cinch. Wi-fi enabled refrigerators will read RFID tags on grocery products that are placed your fridge, and in turn send that data to the internet cloud. Are you eating a government approved diet? Taking your meds? If not, you will be paying a price for it in this nightmarish science fiction future that is soon to be science fact.

Daniel Taylor’s article first appeared on Old-thinker News.
This article was posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 at 12:29 pm

[Fraxxx]

U arent all fools!!! Argouing about samthing like this that is not impotent....while tupacs assassins our still on tha lose!!! U peopel need to get you're priourities straighter because this is not what u shouldnt be conserned about!!!

this

For once I agree.

[MistaNova]

[virtuoso]

So to address Jromes point, what he is saying is that through "legalised" means they will find out who is a smoker and then what? how about double or maybe triple your premiums? If your retort is well you have a choice, well yeah, but first of all you are going to be fined for having that choice and secondly this information will be sold by the government to the insurance companies so even if this healthcare system collapses, the insurance companies will mark you out.

So no, he is not being paranoid, he was illustrating how this was yet another step on the road to being imprisoned through the erosion of privacy, civil liberties and the advent of a new wave of technology which makes control of the citizen much easier to impose. The more sophisticated and integrated this becomes, the less overt the control needs to become as it becomes the staple of a person's existence and becomes the norm for the next generation.

That, is what he was illustrating.

[Jack Trippa 3z company ho]

So to address Jromes point, what he is saying is that through "legalised" means they will find out who is a smoker and then what? how about double or maybe triple your premiums? If your retort is well you have a choice, well yeah, but first of all you are going to be fined for having that choice and secondly this information will be sold by the government to the insurance companies so even if this healthcare system collapses, the insurance companies will mark you out.

So no, he is not being paranoid, he was illustrating how this was yet another step on the road to being imprisoned through the erosion of privacy, civil liberties and the advent of a new wave of technology which makes control of the citizen much easier to impose. The more sophisticated and integrated this becomes, the less overt the control needs to become as it becomes the staple of a person's existence and becomes the norm for the next generation.

That, is what he was illustrating.

Hit the nail on the head.

[elmizzy]

Go live in your bunkers then. What are you gonna do? You have few options. Live. Die. Or live in fear in your bunker full of cup of noodles. Are you going to spend your whole life reading about how you're being spied on? Please tell me.

[Fraxxx]

Go live in your bunkers then. What are you gonna do? You have few options. Live. Die. Or live in fear in your bunker full of cup of noodles. Are you going to spend your whole life reading about how you're being spied on? Please tell me.

So everytime you're not able to directly change something, like for instance the implementation of Obamacare you're supposed to shut up about it? Weird principle.

[elmizzy]

No, I am asking what is their plan of action. Talk about it on dubcc? You can control your happiness and that's all I do. I just go out and live. Take care of the people I love. Not worried about who reads my text messages or listens to my phone calls because it doesn't fucking matter to me. Now, let's say it did matter to me. What do I do?

You are fighting a battle that is already lost brothers. The people are already under control. You got guys like Snowden risking his life for putting shit out in the open. But people of America get a little upset for 5 minutes then they go back to watching Kim Kardashian's tv show.

So where is your army? I will enlist. But I'll tell you we are very outnumbered.

[Sccit]

theog, whats ur old username on here?

[Fraxxx]

No, I am asking what is their plan of action. Talk about it on dubcc? You can control your happiness and that's all I do. I just go out and live. Take care of the people I love. Not worried about who reads my text messages or listens to my phone calls because it doesn't fucking matter to me. Now, let's say it did matter to me. What do I do?

You are fighting a battle that is already lost brothers. The people are already under control. You got guys like Snowden risking his life for putting shit out in the open. But people of America get a little upset for 5 minutes then they go back to watching Kim Kardashian's tv show.

So where is your army? I will enlist. But I'll tell you we are very outnumbered.

Okay, when you put it like that I'm more or less with you.Nothing wrong with staying informed, though. There still are decisions we are free to make, better to make them based on knowledge.

[elmizzy]

elmizzy. Been down since early 00's

[elmizzy]

No, I am asking what is their plan of action. Talk about it on dubcc? You can control your happiness and that's all I do. I just go out and live. Take care of the people I love. Not worried about who reads my text messages or listens to my phone calls because it doesn't fucking matter to me. Now, let's say it did matter to me. What do I do?

You are fighting a battle that is already lost brothers. The people are already under control. You got guys like Snowden risking his life for putting shit out in the open. But people of America get a little upset for 5 minutes then they go back to watching Kim Kardashian's tv show.

So where is your army? I will enlist. But I'll tell you we are very outnumbered.

Okay, when you put it like that I'm more or less with you.Nothing wrong with staying informed, though. There still are decisions we are free to make, better to make them based on knowledge.

But these guys are saying the same thing. "Through legalized means." Is the only difference. Doesn't matter that the NSA shit was illegal as fuck. It got swept right under the rug.

So what I am saying is that if the government wants to know about your health they pick up the phone and call Kaiser Permanente (or wherever you go for your check ups) and they get it sent over to them. What they are saying is with this obamacare all they do is open their browser and check your profile and the information is already there.

[Jack Trippa 3z company ho]

Go live in your bunkers then. What are you gonna do? You have few options. Live. Die. Or live in fear in your bunker full of cup of noodles. Are you going to spend your whole life reading about how you're being spied on? Please tell me.

The only thing I fear is God. No bunkers here homeboy. I'm going to continue eatin lovely livin lavish. I understand this world is a test and knowing that, shit doesn't really phase me. I try to live with integrity despite whatever circumstances arise...that's what I'm gonna do about it. I discuss my views with anyone that wants to read it. If it gets you butthurt, maybe you should ask yourself why that is?

[Jack Trippa 3z company ho]

Go live in your bunkers then. What are you gonna do? You have few options. Live. Die. Or live in fear in your bunker full of cup of noodles. Are you going to spend your whole life reading about how you're being spied on? Please tell me.

So everytime you're not able to directly change something, like for instance the implementation of Obamacare you're supposed to shut up about it? Weird principle.

Question nothing! Discuss only sports, movies, teenage mutant ninja turtles and nothing else! You fucking idiot!

[Fraxxx]

Go live in your bunkers then. What are you gonna do? You have few options. Live. Die. Or live in fear in your bunker full of cup of noodles. Are you going to spend your whole life reading about how you're being spied on? Please tell me.

So everytime you're not able to directly change something, like for instance the implementation of Obamacare you're supposed to shut up about it? Weird principle.

Question nothing! Discuss only sports, movies, teenage mutant ninja turtles and nothing else! You fucking idiot!

I hope that last sentence wasn't directed at me?

[Jack Trippa 3z company ho]

Go live in your bunkers then. What are you gonna do? You have few options. Live. Die. Or live in fear in your bunker full of cup of noodles. Are you going to spend your whole life reading about how you're being spied on? Please tell me.

So everytime you're not able to directly change something, like for instance the implementation of Obamacare you're supposed to shut up about it? Weird principle.

Question nothing! Discuss only sports, movies, teenage mutant ninja turtles and nothing else! You fucking idiot!

I hope that last sentence wasn't directed at me?

Sarcasm my friend...I was mocking the ninja turtle getting mad at us for discussing these things.

[Fraxxx]

Go live in your bunkers then. What are you gonna do? You have few options. Live. Die. Or live in fear in your bunker full of cup of noodles. Are you going to spend your whole life reading about how you're being spied on? Please tell me.

So everytime you're not able to directly change something, like for instance the implementation of Obamacare you're supposed to shut up about it? Weird principle.

Question nothing! Discuss only sports, movies, teenage mutant ninja turtles and nothing else! You fucking idiot!

I hope that last sentence wasn't directed at me?

Sarcasm my friend...I was mocking the ninja turtle getting mad at us for discussing these things.

Ah yeah, forgot that he called you something along the lines. I already thought I'd have to reevaluate our relationship.

[Jack Trippa 3z company ho]

Go live in your bunkers then. What are you gonna do? You have few options. Live. Die. Or live in fear in your bunker full of cup of noodles. Are you going to spend your whole life reading about how you're being spied on? Please tell me.

So everytime you're not able to directly change something, like for instance the implementation of Obamacare you're supposed to shut up about it? Weird principle.

Question nothing! Discuss only sports, movies, teenage mutant ninja turtles and nothing else! You fucking idiot!

I hope that last sentence wasn't directed at me?

Sarcasm my friend...I was mocking the ninja turtle getting mad at us for discussing these things.

Ah yeah, forgot that he called you something along the lines. I already thought I'd have to reevaluate our relationship.

I have respect for you my friend. We may not agree, but you're no buffoon and I respect that.