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Re: Amazing analysis (USA, Saudi Arabia, Syria...) by Sheikh Imran Hosein
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2013, 01:41:10 PM »
Appreciatie your post.

But people today don't have time 2 listen to an lecture.
All they want is soundbites. in two three minutes complex issues explained.
 

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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2013, 03:42:14 AM »
For those who think that Russia belongs to the NWO or is in the same game.
Listen from 17:40.
He wil adress those who think Russia is not sincere and plays her part in NWO.
 

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Re: Amazing analysis (USA, Saudi Arabia, Syria...) by Sheikh Imran Hosein
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2013, 06:08:05 AM »
Appreciatie your post.

But people today don't have time 2 listen to an lecture.
All they want is soundbites. in two three minutes complex issues explained.


Yes you are right, but there is also on this forum some "virtuoso type people" ready to take some time to reflect on subject that matter, I mean humble & sincere people who are using their intelligence in the right way just trying to get closer to reality, in other words people who want to see the things as they really are, regardless of cost.

As you know well truth is crystal clear but to achieve it in this age of deception is most of the time very complex and time consuming. So for those who are not able to spend half an hour listening to an interesting view on a situation which might affects all of us whatever our geographical location, nothing can be done.
 

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Re: Amazing analysis (USA, Saudi Arabia, Syria...) by Sheikh Imran Hosein
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2013, 01:09:15 AM »
This Shiek is very knowledgeable.  I saw and read some of his material on the Ottoman Empire vs. the Wahhabi movement, Kalifah vs. Islamic State, it was some deep stuff that was on a level that most scholars don't even come close to.
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Re: Amazing analysis (USA, Saudi Arabia, Syria...) by Sheikh Imran Hosein
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2013, 01:16:25 AM »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/-csmPmgbuss" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/-csmPmgbuss</a>

In english with french subtitles.

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Interesting analysis but I don't agree with a few of his premises.

First of all his emphasis on Sunnah.. I think Muslims put too much emphasis on Sunnah, but that's a separate subject.

Second of all the idea that America wants Islamic states to emerge so that Israel can claim it is being threatened, I think that's over-analysis.  I really don't think America can pull a double-wammie like that.

I also don't think Saudi Arabia ever really supported the Ikwan, as he suggests
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Re: Amazing analysis (USA, Saudi Arabia, Syria...) by Sheikh Imran Hosein
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2013, 02:57:17 AM »


Interesting analysis but I don't agree with a few of his premises.

First of all his emphasis on Sunnah.. I think Muslims put too much emphasis on Sunnah, but that's a separate subject.

Second of all the idea that America wants Islamic states to emerge so that Israel can claim it is being threatened, I think that's over-analysis.  I really don't think America can pull a double-wammie like that.

I also don't think Saudi Arabia ever really supported the Ikwan, as he suggests


Let me tell you first a littke back ground on the Sheik.
besides islamic studies he studied International relations in Geneva.

I believe that the zionist do want these radicals extremist supported by SA to take over syria.
It is not the first time that the west has done this.
The Wahabi Saudi state is created and supported by Britain.
You should take another look at Lawrence of Arabia.

Let me give you a quik history lesson so you may benefit from it and can apply that 2 our age.

Theodor Herzl an atheistic jew who is the father of zionism.
Wrote a pamphlete The jewish state.
which a subtitle  "Address to the Rothschilds."
You read that right... to the bankers family the Rothchilds.

To make a long story short.
He first went to Sultan Abdul Hamid the second (May G_d have mercy on his soul) the Ottoman caliph.

The Ottomans were called the sick man of europe, they were in so much debt.

1896, Theodor Herzl offers to pay down a substantial portion of the Ottoman debt in exchange for Palestine (The holy land).
(It was like a Private banker offering the US to pay your national Debt in exchange for the Bahama's) strange isn't it.

This was the reply form this great last Sultan. Before the Ottoman traitors got rid of him.

"™Even if you gave me as much gold as the entire world, let alone the 150 million English pounds in gold, I would not accept this at all. I have served the Islamic milla [nation] and the Ummah of Muhammad for more than thirty years, and never did I blacken the pages of the Muslims- my fathers and ancestors, the Ottoman sultans and caliphs. And so I will never accept what you ask of me....
if one day the Islamic State falls apart then you can have Palestine for free, but as long as I am alive I would rather have my flesh be cut up than cut out Palestine from the Muslim land."

Theodor understood the message..

Let us forward to WW1. (How and why it started it is to long for me to get into that.)

"The Allies" were on the brink of defeat.
- Russia, was emboiled into an internal struggle between the Bolsheviks and Loyalist.
- France, was getting tired.

Britain, was on the verge of defeat. You read that right.
Let me explain.
The Germans got a secret weapon (why and how they got that weapon is maybe something we need to explore.)
They got the Submarine.

Britain was an Island and was dependent on sea. When the Germans attacked their ships with these submarines.
It was so bad that there was only food supplies left 2 sustain the population of Britain for no more then a few weeks.
meaning they were on the verge of surrender.

At that time the Zionists made their move!

They went 2 the Foreign minister of Britain of that time. Who: Arthur James Balfour.
And offered him an offer which Britain could not refuse in return for Palestine.
The zionist offered him 2 influence the Bolsheviks so that they will continue as there ally in this war.
And Offered them that they would use their influence in the USA (Close advisors of the then president were zionist.)
2 bring the USA in this war on the side of Britain. (USA public opinion was not in favor of getting involved in the internal european power struggle)

Here is the declaration.
READ it closely:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Balfour_portrait_and_declaration.JPG

That is right the Rothchild.. again...


This declaration was signed in 1917.. Israel was created in 1948.
That is 30 years before the creation of the Zionist state.
And 25 Years before the Holocaust.
I believe the Holocoast was a catalyst in order for the Zionist
2 convince the innocent jews that they should adopt their policy.
Because most Jews were not Zionist.

We can conclude the following:
If they back then were planning and scheming 30 years in advance.
you think they stopped planning NOW?
You live in Disney Land.

EDIT: Here is your president @ the grave of Theodore Herzl




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Re: Amazing analysis (USA, Saudi Arabia, Syria...) by Sheikh Imran Hosein
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2013, 10:53:55 AM »


"™Even if you gave me as much gold as the entire world, let alone the 150 million English pounds in gold, I would not accept this at all. I have served the Islamic milla [nation] and the Ummah of Muhammad for more than thirty years, and never did I blacken the pages of the Muslims- my fathers and ancestors, the Ottoman sultans and caliphs. And so I will never accept what you ask of me....
if one day the Islamic State falls apart then you can have Palestine for free, but as long as I am alive I would rather have my flesh be cut up than cut out Palestine from the Muslim land."





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That is one of the most significant pieces of Islamic history.   I had read that before as I am somewhat of an amateur historian on the Ottoman Empire.  To really understand the Muslim Ummah today one has to have an understanding of the Ottoman Empire and it's collapse, because it was the last time that Muslims truly held any real power economically and politically.  All Muslim leaders since WW1 have had their hands tied behind their back.  WW1 was an epic defeat for the Muslim Ummah and the Muslim Ummah has been nothing more than a client state of the West ever since.

That's why I think in some ways Muslims must admit to their defeat they took in WW1 and not keep trying to fight a battle that has already been lost.  They are still fighting to regain authority in certain regions, often fighting each other for this power, when the real power ultimately lies with the West.  I think they would be better off at this point to just recognize that and stop fighting each other.  But Allahu Alum
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Re: Amazing analysis (USA, Saudi Arabia, Syria...) by Sheikh Imran Hosein
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2013, 11:55:45 AM »
@ Infinite.

I think you missing my point.
It is not West vs East.
or Jews VS Muslims
Christians VS Muslims.

Not at all.

If we live in the End Time.
And I believe we are.

We will have  a divide between people of faith on one side; Muslims, Christians and Jews.... who clearly recognize the deception and will not bow down to the anti-christ.

On the other side you will have people of faith; Muslims, Christians and Jews who will follow the anti-christ. And wil accept him as the Messiah.

That is the divide line. Not Religion.
People with eyes to see, will recognize  that there is something wrong in the  age that we live in.

@ Atheist, I don't include you not because I believe you don't have a place in one side or the other.
But since you don't believe, then the scriptures can not be truth.
And since they cannot be truth. You have nothing 2 worry about. According to your own logic.



 

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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2013, 12:15:48 PM »

@ Atheist, I don't include you not because I believe you don't have a place in one side or the other.
But since you don't believe, then the scriptures can not be truth.
And since they cannot be truth. You have nothing 2 worry about. According to your own logic.


Not quite. For the end of time to come all it needs is enough people who believe in the end of time, unfortunately. Just stay off my lawn and get your apocalypse over with some place else! ;)
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Re: Amazing analysis (USA, Saudi Arabia, Syria...) by Sheikh Imran Hosein
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2013, 12:20:49 PM »

@ Atheist, I don't include you not because I believe you don't have a place in one side or the other.
But since you don't believe, then the scriptures can not be truth.
And since they cannot be truth. You have nothing 2 worry about. According to your own logic.


Not quite. For the end of time to come all it needs is enough people who believe in the end of time, unfortunately. Just stay off my lawn and get your apocalypse over with some place else! ;)

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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2013, 12:32:12 PM »
I want 2 emphasis this is not only the muslim perspective.
One of the foremost russian intellectuals: Prof Alexander Dugin  invited Imran Hosein 2 Moscow 2 give a lecture on Escatology.

Listen at the 50 minute mark, Prof Alexander Dugin will give Russian orthodox version of Escatology
 

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Re: Amazing analysis (USA, Saudi Arabia, Syria...) by Sheikh Imran Hosein
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2013, 12:57:20 PM »
@ Infinite.

I think you missing my point.
It is not West vs East.
or Jews VS Muslims
Christians VS Muslims.

Not at all.

If we live in the End Time.
And I believe we are.

We will have  a divide between people of faith on one side; Muslims, Christians and Jews.... who clearly recognize the deception and will not bow down to the anti-christ.

On the other side you will have people of faith; Muslims, Christians and Jews who will follow the anti-christ. And wil accept him as the Messiah.

That is the divide line. Not Religion.
People with eyes to see, will recognize  that there is something wrong in the  age that we live in.

@ Atheist, I don't include you not because I believe you don't have a place in one side or the other.
But since you don't believe, then the scriptures can not be truth.
And since they cannot be truth. You have nothing 2 worry about. According to your own logic.





Come on homie, really?   Do you know people have been predicting the "end of times" since the beginning of times?  How many times does that prediction have to fail before people consider the possibility that maybe the end of times won't come during our lifetime.

In the Qu'ran it states that the Prophet does not know when the end will come.   But Muslims choose to follow Hadith literature in place of the Qu'ran.  

Bottom line is, people have been predicting that since the times of Sahaba and Taba Tabaeen and the Middle Ages and the Ottomans and so on they keep failing in such End of Times Predictions.
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2013, 01:12:33 PM »


Come on homie, really?   Do you know people have been predicting the "end of times" since the beginning of times?  How many times does that prediction have to fail before people consider the possibility that maybe the end of times won't come during our lifetime.

In the Qu'ran it states that the Prophet does not know when the end will come.   But Muslims choose to follow Hadith literature in place of the Qu'ran.   Either way, they've been predicting that since the times of Sahaba and Taba Tabaeen and the Middle Ages and the Ottomans and so on they keep failing in such End of Times Predictions.

The Prophet (saw) has given many many many signs, about the end time. To brush them aside, is your own choice.
The end time, is not Judgement day.
Period Between the end time and Judgement day can be hundred or thousand of years. (G_d knows best.)

What is the end time:

It is final battle between Truth and Falsehood. Like the Battle between Moses and the Pharao.
When the believers (jews) had the sea in front of them and Pharao's army behind them.
G_d intervened and opened the sea and destroyed Pharao.
And this time around there will be the Anti-christ (False Messiah) in the role of Pharao with G_d's intervention (by sending Jesus (The Real messiah) to kill the False Messiah. )
With that Truth will prevail over falsehood.

If you think today's age is busines as usual. It is your right.
But I gave you in other threads enough evidence on my part. So believe what you think is right.
 

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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2013, 01:54:20 PM »
Wait, Jesus will come to KILL the false messiah? Glad to hear that he's not the Sermon on the Mount pussy he's portrayed as, after all.
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« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2013, 02:32:41 PM »
Wait, Jesus will come to KILL the false messiah? Glad to hear that he's not the Sermon on the Mount pussy he's portrayed as, after all.

Jesus was also a Lion in the bible.
When the Establishment were ripping people of in the Temple.
He turned the tables were they sat and chased them out of the temple.
And then Jesus said, you made the house of G-d into a den of thieves.

 

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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2013, 03:00:04 PM »
Wait, Jesus will come to KILL the false messiah? Glad to hear that he's not the Sermon on the Mount pussy he's portrayed as, after all.

Jesus was also a Lion in the bible.
When the Establishment were ripping people of in the Temple.
He turned the tables were they sat and chased them out of the temple.
And then Jesus said, you made the house of G-d into a den of thieves.



I know. I know a little about contradictions in the Bible and such. But 'Jesus will come back from the dead and kill' was new to me and somewhat amusing when you take into account how he's portrayed today.
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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2013, 03:56:32 PM »

I know. I know a little about contradictions in the Bible and such. But 'Jesus will come back from the dead and kill' was new to me and somewhat amusing when you take into account how he's portrayed today.

Jesus is not dead. We don't believe he died.
The jewish establishment wanted him to be crucified. The romans at that time reluctantly complied.
Why did they want him to be crucified?

Because they did not accept him as the Messiah.
And when he was crucified it was in their eyes a confirmation that he could have not been the Messiah.
Because in their scriptures only the accursed of G_d are crucified.
And he did not bring back a kingdom like the Kingdom of Solomon, where the jewish people ruled the world.
So he did not fulfill that condition either.

But the crucifiction is only complete if a person dies.
And G_d made it appear that way. That is what the Quran teaches.
But he did not die.
And will return IN PERSON.
 

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What happened to the video? This sounded interesting.