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Obie Trice - Welcome to Detroit City (Benzino Diss)
« on: March 18, 2003, 10:48:35 PM »
Yo, what's ya'lls opinion on this track? I think this is the best Obie Trice track I've heard...He killed Benzino...This song totally changed my opinion on Obie...I love the beat and the sample...Plus Obie just killed the beat like he's never done before...I recomend this song to anyone, even if you don't like Obie...



PS, anyone know who produced this? Beat is top notch...PeACe
 

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Re:Obie Trice - Welcome to Detroit City (Benzino Diss)
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2003, 11:33:45 PM »
i believe the song you are talking about is the one where Obie Trice is rapping over the "welcome to NYC" song  from Cam'ron's album....it was camron and jay-z....i believe just blaze produced  it.......
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Re:Obie Trice - Welcome to Detroit City (Benzino Diss)
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2003, 11:42:03 PM »
Yeah it's dope...

The OG is

Cam'ron f/ Jay-Z & Juelz Santana - "Welcome To New York City"

PS, anyone know who produced this? Beat is top notch...PeACe

Just Blaze... LOL @ you claiming to have heard all his beats :-\

It has no samples BTW ;)
 

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Re:Obie Trice - Welcome to Detroit City (Benzino Diss)
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2003, 05:00:32 PM »
Just because it says it has no samples does not always mean it doesn't. Beanie's track "the truth" directly samples CSN's Chicago but gives no credit, there are ealso dozens of other instrumetals that give no credit, but do sample. Sometimes producers buy the rights to the sheet music and don't have to credit it as a sample. I have lost all faith in Hip Hop as far as Instumentals go, since there all stolen. But thats okay i've come to expect it, and now i don't even really listen to anything but the Rapper himself.
 

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Re:Obie Trice - Welcome to Detroit City (Benzino Diss)
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2003, 05:13:08 PM »
Yeah it's dope...

The OG is

Cam'ron f/ Jay-Z & Juelz Santana - "Welcome To New York City"

PS, anyone know who produced this? Beat is top notch...PeACe

Just Blaze... LOL @ you claiming to have heard all his beats :-\

It has no samples BTW ;)



LMAO! of course there are samples in this song...and Just Blaze did NOT produce this...The one with Cam'ron and Jay-Z is not the same...PeaCe
 

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Re:Obie Trice - Welcome to Detroit City (Benzino Diss)
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2003, 06:07:12 PM »
and Just Blaze did NOT produce this...The one with Cam'ron and Jay-Z is not the same...PeaCe

Are you saying that the beat from "Welcome To New York City" isn't the same as "Welcome To Detroit City"?



I love Obie Trice, from the first time I heard him on the D12 album.  He's dope, this is a great track and his verse on that new Muggs mixtape is impressive to.

I think he's going to make a good album and I believe that Eminem will handle most of the work behind the boards which is alright cause I liked most of the beats on The Eminem Show.
 

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Re:Obie Trice - Welcome to Detroit City (Benzino Diss)
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2003, 07:10:59 PM »
and Just Blaze did NOT produce this...The one with Cam'ron and Jay-Z is not the same...PeaCe

Are you saying that the beat from "Welcome To New York City" isn't the same as "Welcome To Detroit City"?



No...
 

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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2003, 09:29:19 PM »

..and Just Blaze did NOT produce this...The one with Cam'ron and Jay-Z is not the same

...PeaCe

* Cam'Ron feat. Jay-Z & Juelz Santana "Welcome to New York City" = Same beat as Obie's "Welcome to Detroit"

* Cam'Ron after 4 seconds: "Just Blaaaaaaaze man, you owe me nigga"


Lmao  ::)
Nuff said.
 

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Re:Obie Trice - Welcome to Detroit City (Benzino Diss)
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2003, 09:36:27 PM »
where can I hear this shit?
 

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Re:Obie Trice - Welcome to Detroit City (Benzino Diss)
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2003, 10:56:38 PM »

..and Just Blaze did NOT produce this...The one with Cam'ron and Jay-Z is not the same

...PeaCe

* Cam'Ron feat. Jay-Z & Juelz Santana "Welcome to New York City" = Same beat as Obie's "Welcome to Detroit"

* Cam'Ron after 4 seconds: "Just Blaaaaaaaze man, you owe me nigga"


Lmao  ::)
Nuff said.

I said who produced it, not who made the beat...Idiot
 

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Re:Obie Trice - Welcome to Detroit City (Benzino Diss)
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2003, 10:58:20 PM »

..and Just Blaze did NOT produce this...The one with Cam'ron and Jay-Z is not the same

...PeaCe

* Cam'Ron feat. Jay-Z & Juelz Santana "Welcome to New York City" = Same beat as Obie's "Welcome to Detroit"

* Cam'Ron after 4 seconds: "Just Blaaaaaaaze man, you owe me nigga"


Lmao  ::)
Nuff said.

And my question was who produced the ORIGINAL song AKA where did the sample come from...Geez man...
 

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Re:Obie Trice - Welcome to Detroit City (Benzino Diss)
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2003, 11:44:25 PM »

I said who produced it, not who made the beat...Idiot


Yuh right..
Nice try.
 

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Re:Obie Trice - Welcome to Detroit City (Benzino Diss)
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2003, 05:28:54 AM »
Now I Know stop trying to cover yourself.....we all know what you meant.....like my man said....nice try......if u came off dumb just suck it up and move on....you know u make your self look pathetic when u try to cover shit up.... if you wanted to know where the original sample came from you would of asked that.....not ask who produced the obie trice song.......just suck it up and move on!
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Re:Obie Trice - Welcome to Detroit City (Benzino Diss)
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2003, 07:24:21 AM »
This track is kinda old now, I heard it months ago....But its def. a hot joint...
 

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Re:Obie Trice - Welcome to Detroit City (Benzino Diss)
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2003, 07:31:10 PM »
You guys are really idiots...

Dilated Peoples - Worst Comes to Worse
Ludacris - Growing Pains


^^Same beat, two different producers...



Guess who just got told? Jomo the homo...*runs outta thread singing* la da da da da da...
 

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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2003, 12:48:19 AM »
You guys are really idiots...

Dilated Peoples - Worst Comes to Worse
Ludacris - Growing Pains


^^Same beat, two different producers...



Guess who just got told? Jomo the homo...*runs outta thread singing* la da da da da da...

Just dig your hole deeper.
pEaCe
 

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Re:Obie Trice - Welcome to Detroit City (Benzino Diss)
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2003, 06:37:18 PM »
Quote
Dilated Peoples - Worst Comes to Worse
Ludacris - Growing Pains


^^Same beat, two different producers...



Looks like you don't have anything to say about that...
 

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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2003, 10:23:39 PM »
Quote
Dilated Peoples - Worst Comes to Worse
Ludacris - Growing Pains


^^Same beat, two different producers...



Looks like you don't have anything to say about that...

You can't have the same beat with 2 different producers, unless one of them copied the other, or they both totally copied someone else.
Also, that wouldn't make you the producer, that would make you the copycat. (Or you could be named Irv Gotti)
 

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Re:Obie Trice - Welcome to Detroit City (Benzino Diss)
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2003, 11:13:37 PM »
Yeah it's dope...

The OG is

Cam'ron f/ Jay-Z & Juelz Santana - "Welcome To New York City"

PS, anyone know who produced this? Beat is top notch...PeACe

Just Blaze... LOL @ you claiming to have heard all his beats :-\

It has no samples BTW ;)



LMAO! of course there are samples in this song...and Just Blaze did NOT produce this...The one with Cam'ron and Jay-Z is not the same...PeaCe


The beat is the same, and that's what you asked for, I don't really see why you're trying to cover yourself up... whoever "produced" Obie's version just jacked Just Blaze's beat, and changed the voice sample from "Welcome To New York City" to "Welcome to Detroit". End of discussion...
 

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Re:Obie Trice - Welcome to Detroit City (Benzino Diss)
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2003, 11:42:13 PM »
Maybe you guys are not getting it or something...I THOUGHT THAT THE GUY WHO PRODUCED "WELCOME TO DETROIT CITY" USED THE SAME SAMPLE AS JUST BLAZE USED FOR "WELCOME TO NY CITY"!!!...Geez!
 

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Re:Obie Trice - Welcome to Detroit City (Benzino Diss)
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2003, 01:09:00 AM »
I didn't follow this whole stupid discussion but you can have the same beat with different producers.

"Let The Funk Flow" - EPMD produced by EPMD

is the exact same beat as

"Nastradamus" - Nas produced by L.E.S.
 

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Re:Obie Trice - Welcome to Detroit City (Benzino Diss)
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2003, 01:37:15 PM »
The producer does not create the instrumental he simply oversees the the song. Much a movie director oversees the movie. Spielberg does not write all the movies he directs, he puts them together. Much like Dr. Dre he almost never writes the music in his songs, he samlpes or pays a musician to write it for him. Too many people confuse the term Producer with Composer. If you want to know who composed the Welcome To Detroit/New York, then find out where the sample came from and read the credits, I my self am not sure who composed the melody/harmony but if I find out I'll post it  for you guys.
 

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« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2003, 09:03:04 PM »
So Tragedy Khadafi made "Welcome to QB City" over the same beat as "Welcome to <insert city>"...
Gee, I wonder who produced that one..  ::)

So I guess the producer of this track "oversaw" Tragedy putting on the instrumental in the CD-deck.. what a magnificent performance..  :P