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Re: Man's best friend
« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2014, 08:57:17 PM »
I could never buy/own a dog. All them porno's i seen would make it fucked up.

Soo... you mean to say that you watched many pornos involving dogs?


Soo... you mean to say that you are surprised about that (you know we are talking about Krazy, right?)

Well... I kind of... try to see the best in people and all that... I mean... dogs? That's a new low! :-\


so watching bestiality is low, but gay porn is not? GOT U

If you now can also at least try to tell me HOW exactly you got me, I will gladly destroy your attempt to do so. *wink*


WHY ARE U JUDGING PEOPLE WHO ENJOY BESTIALITY (KRAZY) IF IT DOESN'T HURT ANY1?

ACCORDING TO YOU, "THERE IS NO LOGICAL REASON"

I don't know how you come to this conclusion. Repeat it as often as you want but I still never made a case neither for nor against zoophilia. I doubted that the percentage of women that are happy with accidentally being mounted by a dog would be very high.

But that's similar to your claim I would have said 'natural' equaled 'acceptable'. Since I don't think that you're stupid, I must assume that you do this on purpose.
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Re: Man's best friend
« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2014, 09:20:45 PM »
DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT SAY THAT THERE IS NO LOGICAL ARGUMENT AGAINST HOMOSEXUALITY DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT CAUSES NO ONE ANY HARM?
 

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« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2014, 09:52:15 PM »
DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT SAY THAT THERE IS NO LOGICAL ARGUMENT AGAINST HOMOSEXUALITY DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT CAUSES NO ONE ANY HARM?

That was one point, yes. Consent was another one. Why would you assume that a such a vast majority of interspecies sexual encounters met the requirements that allowed to make the same point for zoophilia in principle.

And why the hell are we argueing this in the first place? Like I said before:

"So if you want someone to advocate the legalization of sex with animals you gotta go look somewhere else. It doesn't change the fact that you can't come up with anything reasonable against homosexuality in particular one bit."
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Re: Man's best friend
« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2014, 12:14:47 AM »
DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT SAY THAT THERE IS NO LOGICAL ARGUMENT AGAINST HOMOSEXUALITY DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT CAUSES NO ONE ANY HARM?

That was one point, yes. Consent was another one. Why would you assume that a such a vast majority of interspecies sexual encounters met the requirements that allowed to make the same point for zoophilia in principle.

And why the hell are we argueing this in the first place? Like I said before:

"So if you want someone to advocate the legalization of sex with animals you gotta go look somewhere else. It doesn't change the fact that you can't come up with anything reasonable against homosexuality in particular one bit."


thats what i'm sayin, dogs consent to it all the time and theres no harm in it..."you cant come up with a reasonable argument against it"...in essence, you agree that it's okay for dogs to fuck human pussu. dont worry, i'm not here to judge.
 

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Re: Man's best friend
« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2014, 12:32:54 AM »
dog pussy is tight

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« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2014, 04:23:10 AM »
DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT SAY THAT THERE IS NO LOGICAL ARGUMENT AGAINST HOMOSEXUALITY DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT CAUSES NO ONE ANY HARM?

That was one point, yes. Consent was another one. Why would you assume that a such a vast majority of interspecies sexual encounters met the requirements that allowed to make the same point for zoophilia in principle.

And why the hell are we argueing this in the first place? Like I said before:

"So if you want someone to advocate the legalization of sex with animals you gotta go look somewhere else. It doesn't change the fact that you can't come up with anything reasonable against homosexuality in particular one bit."


thats what i'm sayin, dogs consent to it all the time and theres no harm in it..."you cant come up with a reasonable argument against it"...in essence, you agree that it's okay for dogs to fuck human pussu. dont worry, i'm not here to judge.


Reeewind!

a) "Why would you assume that such a vast majority of interspecies sexual encounters met the requirements that allowed to make the same point for zoophilia in principle?"

b) "Repeat it as often as you want but I still never made a case for or against zoophilia."

Cause only because you can't let go of the idea that homosexuality or more precisely male homosexuality *cough*hypocrite*cough* is basically the same as zoophilia, it doesn't mean I'm all of a sudden, somehow miraculously obligated to find cons against the latter. As if the hypothetical case that I couldn't, would mean you're automatically right about homosexuality. That wouldn't even be the case if you were right about the two being principally the same. Logical fallacy.

You made the claim, you'll still have to come up with something reasonable against homosexuality itself. Burden of proof. Unlike homosexuality, no backdoor to that principle.

And of course, the dog is not to blame then. The responsibility would more lay
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Re: Man's best friend
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2014, 10:09:30 AM »
Im not assuming anything, I'm just saying that if, according to you, homosexuality is ok because of no harm done and consent, then consensual dog sex falls under the same category... That is all.
 

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Re: Man's best friend
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2014, 01:22:11 PM »


SHOW ME WHERE IM JUSTIFYING BESTIALITY OR PEDOPHILIA?


WOULD U RATHER FUCK A MAN'S ASS OR A DOG'S PUSSY??

Refer to the other topic for your justification of Pedophilia.

As for Beastiality, here are your attempts at justifying it, when faced with comparing such an act to Homosexulaity


so watching bestiality is low, but gay porn is not? GOT U


"there is no logical reason to be against it"


if the dog is consenting, whats the difference?


if its a female dog, it could be good, depending on whether the pussy's tight 8)

If the dog is consenting... Wow. When has a dog ever consented anything? Has a dog ever consented that they'd like to have their balls chopped off? Has a dog ever consented to having to sleep outdoors? Dogs cannot consent. You are trying to argue against some real and true (2 adults of the same sex consenting to have sex with each other) with a fictitious reasoning.

As for your question: Neither. I don't find men attractive and I do not find any animal attractive. I'm only attracted to women.

I think you're a bit fascinated by a "dogs tight pussy" and a "man's ass" since those seem to be the terms you use in your arguments non-stop. Is that true?
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Re: Man's best friend
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2014, 11:25:08 PM »
They're consenting by getting n stayin hard up in some tight human pussy


If a dog is horny and a hoe bends over naked in front of him, he'd fuck the shit out that tight pussy



And I don't know whether youre really slow or if ur just pretending to be slow for sake of argument, but I never justified anything.. I think dog sex and gay sex are both whack, that's the point. U the one trying to justify shit here, not me.
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Re: Man's best friend
« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2014, 02:14:40 AM »
Dogs are a different, though. They're the result of man's god complex, created in our own image. ;D

Seriously, we are in particular responsible for what dogs are, so they are indeed a special case. I'm still confident that one can find enough points to argue against sex with them. Is anybody here in favor of sex with dogs? No? So why argue?


                                                              
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Re: Man's best friend
« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2014, 04:53:10 AM »
 :laugh:
 Kinda disturbing but funny.
 

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Re: Man's best friend
« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2014, 05:09:36 AM »
@ Fraxxx

LOL, this thread has got a little off track.
Forget Dogs or animals.

First we have to differentiate between, Promoting and accepting Gay as the norm.
And what people do in the privacy of their home.
As I stated before, what people do in the privacy of their home is their choice (although it is a sin.)
We don't have the right to invade people's privacy.
The public... like any public is regultated by law.
We discuss the public aspect.
 
Our religious point of view  is in accordance with the natural moral norm:
Marriage is a union between a man and a woman, based on love and mutual understanding and made in order to give birth to children.
And it is natural law. Don't get it twisted.
My family had roosters and chickens. It is a shame that we lost touch with nature.
Now it is interesting to see the rooster behaviour.
The Boss-Rooster has his own chickens.
And the other roosters are forbidden to come close to them.
They get to choose between the left-over chickens.
Now there was a case that there was rooster who had different behaviour. He could not tell the difference between rooster and chickens.
And now this is the interesting part.
You know what all the other roosters did... they picked him to death....
I am not saying that we need to do the same and start picking men to death. We got baseball bats for that... (<-- It is  a joke!!)

Now the other perspective:
The evolution point of view.
If we are truely evolved. It would make no sense to promote these behaviour.
Same Sex, does not produce children. So they drop out of the survival of the fittest game.
And the race would become weaker and weaker. That is a fact.
Gay men are fememin for most part, exception aside.
It a threat to the age old norm that you should have strong men in a nation to protect the nation in case of  foreign threat, also part of the survival of the fittest game.
Strange enough... these evolutionist/atheist. Don't have these thinking.
Why? Because they think that, fucc it as long as there are gay men.. more women for me.
But this is short term thinking.
And  scientists concluded that social behavior even in Bacteria is better then egoistic behavior.

Let us just focus on some human perspectives.
We have  a couple criteria discussed.
- There has to be consent between two adults.
- It should be accepted as an norm.
- It is their feeling, they are born that way.

Well let us dissect that.

- The consent between adult.
If that is the case, then two adults with each other consent. Should get married.
If and Adult Sister and brother claim they love each other. It is with each others consent.
Should we also allow them to marry.
If a  Adult mother and Adult Son claim the same. Why refuse that.

I will tell you why.
Because it is sexual deviation. It is not a norm and should not be promoted as a normal thing to do.

Why don't I educate your childeren that relations are also normal between brother and sister.
You would refuse that.
But why do we have to (I have no choice in this matter) educate my childern on gay sexuality.
It is ridiculous if you stop and think about it.
I enforce on you a deviant behaviour.. of a sexual minority.


- It is their feeling, they are born that way.
Let us broaden that aspect.
There are people who are really into nasty things. Like eating excrement and pissing on each other.
They "love" it.


(Off topic: we believe that Satan inspires people by giving them ideas... and he starts innocent.. and keeps expanding that till he totaly Corupts a human being.
Freud had the believe that all your ideas are your own. So if you got a bad idea, it must have come from your own desire. In our religion some thoughts are your own (that can also be bad ones)
and some thoughts can be inspired by the evil one. In a nutshell difference in atheistic and religious psychological thought)

Is the love that they have a reason to accept their behavior ( eating excrement and pissing on each other) as a norm.
Should we teach our children these sexual minority behaviour. in order to educate them that there are different humans being with different ideas.
And we should teach them tollerance to any kind of behaviour.
Here again if you just stand still and reflect, an intellegent guy as yourself should realize that there are lines that you can not cross.

Well these lines are not defined in a godless society. In The Holy scriptures, The Torah, Bible and the Quran the lines are drawn not by men. But by the Almighty creator.
Since he is all knowing and All wise. In the Quran G_D uses both in one sentence All Knowing and All wise.
Wisdom without knwoledge can lead to falshood.
Also Knowledge without wisdom lead to wrong decisions.
G_D is the ultimate Truth.

He is our creator, he created us, He knows what is the best guidlines.

If we think that Intellectuals who live for max 85 years know in such a small period Absolute truth and make decisions on what we should accept as a new norm.
But Since we in the west decided that we can make laws by ourselfs.
This means we decide the lines.
If tommorow the intellectuals will say that some other cases is the New Normal. Then the laws change with it.

I am sorry for this long text. But It try to  explain my viewpoint the best way I can.
And in the end. G_d knows best.






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Re: Man's best friend
« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2014, 12:13:02 PM »
@ Fraxxx

LOL, this thread has got a little off track.
Forget Dogs or animals.

First we have to differentiate between, Promoting and accepting Gay as the norm.
And what people do in the privacy of their home.
As I stated before, what people do in the privacy of their home is their choice (although it is a sin.)
We don't have the right to invade people's privacy.
The public... like any public is regultated by law.
We discuss the public aspect.
 
Our religious point of view  is in accordance with the natural moral norm:
Marriage is a union between a man and a woman, based on love and mutual understanding and made in order to give birth to children.
And it is natural law. Don't get it twisted.
My family had roosters and chickens. It is a shame that we lost touch with nature.
Now it is interesting to see the rooster behaviour.
The Boss-Rooster has his own chickens.
And the other roosters are forbidden to come close to them.
They get to choose between the left-over chickens.
Now there was a case that there was rooster who had different behaviour. He could not tell the difference between rooster and chickens.
And now this is the interesting part.
You know what all the other roosters did... they picked him to death....
I am not saying that we need to do the same and start picking men to death. We got baseball bats for that... (<-- It is  a joke!!)

Now the other perspective:
The evolution point of view.
If we are truely evolved. It would make no sense to promote these behaviour.
Same Sex, does not produce children. So they drop out of the survival of the fittest game.
And the race would become weaker and weaker. That is a fact.
Gay men are fememin for most part, exception aside.
It a threat to the age old norm that you should have strong men in a nation to protect the nation in case of  foreign threat, also part of the survival of the fittest game.
Strange enough... these evolutionist/atheist. Don't have these thinking.
Why? Because they think that, fucc it as long as there are gay men.. more women for me.
But this is short term thinking.
And  scientists concluded that social behavior even in Bacteria is better then egoistic behavior.

Let us just focus on some human perspectives.
We have  a couple criteria discussed.
- There has to be consent between two adults.
- It should be accepted as an norm.
- It is their feeling, they are born that way.

Well let us dissect that.

- The consent between adult.
If that is the case, then two adults with each other consent. Should get married.
If and Adult Sister and brother claim they love each other. It is with each others consent.
Should we also allow them to marry.
If a  Adult mother and Adult Son claim the same. Why refuse that.

I will tell you why.
Because it is sexual deviation. It is not a norm and should not be promoted as a normal thing to do.

Why don't I educate your childeren that relations are also normal between brother and sister.
You would refuse that.
But why do we have to (I have no choice in this matter) educate my childern on gay sexuality.
It is ridiculous if you stop and think about it.
I enforce on you a deviant behaviour.. of a sexual minority.


- It is their feeling, they are born that way.
Let us broaden that aspect.
There are people who are really into nasty things. Like eating excrement and pissing on each other.
They "love" it.


(Off topic: we believe that Satan inspires people by giving them ideas... and he starts innocent.. and keeps expanding that till he totaly Corupts a human being.
Freud had the believe that all your ideas are your own. So if you got a bad idea, it must have come from your own desire. In our religion some thoughts are your own (that can also be bad ones)
and some thoughts can be inspired by the evil one. In a nutshell difference in atheistic and religious psychological thought)

Is the love that they have a reason to accept their behavior ( eating excrement and pissing on each other) as a norm.
Should we teach our children these sexual minority behaviour. in order to educate them that there are different humans being with different ideas.
And we should teach them tollerance to any kind of behaviour.
Here again if you just stand still and reflect, an intellegent guy as yourself should realize that there are lines that you can not cross.

Well these lines are not defined in a godless society. In The Holy scriptures, The Torah, Bible and the Quran the lines are drawn not by men. But by the Almighty creator.
Since he is all knowing and All wise. In the Quran G_D uses both in one sentence All Knowing and All wise.
Wisdom without knwoledge can lead to falshood.
Also Knowledge without wisdom lead to wrong decisions.
G_D is the ultimate Truth.

He is our creator, he created us, He knows what is the best guidlines.

If we think that Intellectuals who live for max 85 years know in such a small period Absolute truth and make decisions on what we should accept as a new norm.
But Since we in the west decided that we can make laws by ourselfs.
This means we decide the lines.
If tommorow the intellectuals will say that some other cases is the New Normal. Then the laws change with it.

I am sorry for this long text. But It try to  explain my viewpoint the best way I can.
And in the end. G_d knows best.










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Re: Man's best friend
« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2014, 03:55:04 PM »
They're consenting by getting n stayin hard up in some tight human pussy


If a dog is horny and a hoe bends over naked in front of him, he'd fuck the shit out that tight pussy



And I don't know whether youre really slow or if ur just pretending to be slow for sake of argument, but I never justified anything.. I think dog sex and gay sex are both whack, that's the point. U the one trying to justify shit here, not me.

Getting hard means they are stimulated, not consenting. You're attempting to prove how dogs consent to having sex with humans. You're attempting to justify beastiality. I don't know whether you're really slow or if your just pretending to be slow for sake of argument, but you've attempted to justify that dogs having sex with humans is natural. I think you are desperately against Male Gay Sex, that's the point. You keep trying to justify the craziest shit, in attempts to prove how "gross" Gay Sex between 2 men is.
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Re: Man's best friend
« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2014, 06:38:01 PM »
They're consenting by getting n stayin hard up in some tight human pussy


If a dog is horny and a hoe bends over naked in front of him, he'd fuck the shit out that tight pussy



And I don't know whether youre really slow or if ur just pretending to be slow for sake of argument, but I never justified anything.. I think dog sex and gay sex are both whack, that's the point. U the one trying to justify shit here, not me.

Getting hard means they are stimulated, not consenting. You're attempting to prove how dogs consent to having sex with humans. You're attempting to justify beastiality. I don't know whether you're really slow or if your just pretending to be slow for sake of argument, but you've attempted to justify that dogs having sex with humans is natural. I think you are desperately against Male Gay Sex, that's the point. You keep trying to justify the craziest shit, in attempts to prove how "gross" Gay Sex between 2 men is.


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« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2014, 01:49:20 PM »

did u know that repeating what people say is a sign of autism? come up with your own shit loc

Did you know that what I'm doing is not repeating? Repeating means to speak words verbatim. So, while you're correct that Autistic people utilize a script and repeat situations over and over, what I'm doing, again, is not repeating. Come up with some correct shit, loc.
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Re: Man's best friend
« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2014, 03:51:42 PM »
U do though.. U repeat what I say and switch words around to fit your side of the argument. Gayest debate tactic possible. :laugh:
 

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« Reply #42 on: February 03, 2014, 10:04:48 AM »
U do though.. U repeat what I say and switch words around to fit your side of the argument. Gayest debate tactic possible. :laugh:

Actually, using incorrect or non-factual statements to argue is the "gayest" debate tactic possible and that's all you've done here.

I cannot repeat and switch words around. That is not repeating. Again, using incorrect statements to argue...
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Re: Man's best friend
« Reply #43 on: February 03, 2014, 12:33:14 PM »
U do though.. U repeat what I say and switch words around to fit your side of the argument. Gayest debate tactic possible. :laugh:

Actually, using incorrect or non-factual statements to argue is the "gayest" debate tactic possible and that's all you've done here.

I cannot repeat and switch words around. That is not repeating. Again, using incorrect statements to argue...

what have i said that's "incorrect" or "non-factual"?? basically, ur just hurt that i dont agree with your views

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Re: Man's best friend
« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2014, 01:40:33 PM »
Are you serious? You've said Dogs Consent to human/animal sex. Dogs enjoy "tight pussy." You can't seem to understand what repeat means. I can go on. Basically, you're just not very smart and struggle making even a sensible argument. You don't have to agree with my views.

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Re: Man's best friend
« Reply #45 on: February 03, 2014, 03:15:44 PM »
Are you serious? You've said Dogs Consent to human/animal sex. Dogs enjoy "tight pussy." You can't seem to understand what repeat means. I can go on. Basically, you're just not very smart and struggle making even a sensible argument. You don't have to agree with my views.

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DOGS CONSENT TO SEX BY GETTING HARD AND POUNDING AWAY...NOTHING DUMB ABOUT THAT. DON'T TELL PEOPLE THEY'RE NOT SMART WHEN YOU COME OFF AS A SENSITIVE DOUCHE.. I SIMPLY DONT AGREE WITH YOUR VIEWS AND YOU SEEM TO BE SERIOUSLY HURT OVER THAT, SPEWING INSULTS AND ACTING BUTTHURT BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE THINKS HOMOSEXUALITY IS NATURAL...TIME 2 HOP OFF N LOOK THE OTHER WAY.
 

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Re: Man's best friend
« Reply #46 on: February 03, 2014, 03:45:40 PM »



DOGS CONSENT TO SEX BY GETTING HARD AND POUNDING AWAY...NOTHING DUMB ABOUT THAT. DON'T TELL PEOPLE THEY'RE NOT SMART WHEN YOU COME OFF AS A SENSITIVE DOUCHE.. I SIMPLY DONT AGREE WITH YOUR VIEWS AND YOU SEEM TO BE SERIOUSLY HURT OVER THAT, SPEWING INSULTS AND ACTING BUTTHURT BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE THINKS HOMOSEXUALITY IS NATURAL...TIME 2 HOP OFF N LOOK THE OTHER WAY.

So you've witness dogs "see tight pussy" and then "get hard and pound away?" Seems like you're making stuff up, not being factual, as usual. Don't call people a sensitive douche when you're the one who always finds away to take a conversation from civil to insults. See, when people don't agree with you, you find ways to insult them. Your feelings get hurt. You immediately resort to insults. Look at your record in every argument you have. So, when you're saying:

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YOU SEEM TO BE SERIOUSLY HURT OVER THAT, SPEWING INSULTS AND ACTING BUTTHURT

You're actually talking about yourself.

Yeah... you're not smart.
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Re: Man's best friend
« Reply #47 on: February 03, 2014, 04:37:43 PM »
 

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Re: Man's best friend
« Reply #48 on: February 03, 2014, 05:21:15 PM »
They're consenting by getting n stayin hard up in some tight human pussy


If a dog is horny and a hoe bends over naked in front of him, he'd fuck the shit out that tight pussy



And I don't know whether youre really slow or if ur just pretending to be slow for sake of argument, but I never justified anything.. I think dog sex and gay sex are both whack, that's the point. U the one trying to justify shit here, not me.

Getting hard means they are stimulated, not consenting. You're attempting to prove how dogs consent to having sex with humans. You're attempting to justify beastiality. I don't know whether you're really slow or if your just pretending to be slow for sake of argument, but you've attempted to justify that dogs having sex with humans is natural. I think you are desperately against Male Gay Sex, that's the point. You keep trying to justify the craziest shit, in attempts to prove how "gross" Gay Sex between 2 men is.


did u know that repeating what people say is a sign of autism? come up with your own shit loc

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Re: Man's best friend
« Reply #49 on: February 03, 2014, 06:34:42 PM »
LOL