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My black friend is on point....race and racism
« on: February 18, 2014, 02:55:11 PM »

On 12 years a slave "give me a break man the same old bullshit rehashed, it seems like all you got to include nigger nigger nigger and throw in some slave ideas and you are revered for it. Man, if I wanted to hear nigger all day all I have to do is switch on rap music" (Cue laughter) "It's true though, you know, slavery started in ancient times, and yet they raise slavery like the only ones who ever suffered from it were black people (I add to the conversation) "yeah, I mean Irish people were sent to the caribbean before the africans", "Exactly, you British people were also slaves, you had no rights and you were owned, you were a slave, caribbean friends of mine get really pissed when I tell them one of their forefathers was a slave, as if it effected them, man, they don't realise that one of my forefathers could have been involved in the slave trade, after all, I come from a wealthier family in Ghana bro, besides, you know they pull that shit just to maintain and inflame tensions".

So later on we start talking about race....."Racial identity is not true, why do they always make it about black and white? come on that's racist in itself when it doesn't recognise chinese people (far east asians", (me asking) "So why do you think they make it about black and white"? ...."Well, they are trying to convey a message that we are all the same, we are all human but we are different species, there are defining features of a chinese person or japanese which could never be attributed to black and white people, it's dishonest bullshit.

On we all came from Africa....I ask so why do you think they tell us we all came from Africa?....."Maybe, I mean maybe, but so what? Africa is a continent where there are many groups of people, how the fuck does that suggest that whites and chinese were black people? I aint buying that, why can't they acknowledge that we have differences?, besides, you know that there have been humans in Europe for hundreds of thousands of years right? yeah and you will find a similar pattern throughout the world"

Then we started talking about other things, but ironically the most opinionated and candid conversations I have had about race have been with 2 black friends. Most white people I know are scared to death to even have an opinion, so mind programmed are they to just repeat the mantra of I don't see race, I don't see colour and all the other bullshit cliches.


 

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Re: My black friend is on point....race and racism
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2014, 03:12:30 PM »
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why do they always make it about black and white

Because in western countries the only races that matter are white and black. White folks and black folks couldn't give two shits about the other races.
 

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Re: My black friend is on point....race and racism
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2014, 04:56:46 PM »
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why do they always make it about black and white

Because in western countries the only races that matter are white and black. White folks and black folks couldn't give two shits about the other races.

Not true. No offense but have you been to America?

 - I buy cigars from a tobacco shop ran by a Pakistani family. We have a connection to New York and have built on that and I like to hear their opinions and outlook on the world because it almost always differs slightly from mine.

 - I grew up with hella Mexicans and their culture is arguably part of my culture. I learned a lot about food, family and how to take care of my home and myself by countless sleepovers at Mexican friend's houses.

 - I work with a man from Taiwan and am always trying to pick up Mandarin from him. So many of our industries in the US are tied to China and it pays to show cultural understanding. Shit my grandpa spoke Mandarin and he took the time to learn in the 1950's because his best friend and fellow doctor was from China.


Honestly in America, at least the west coast where I'm from, blacks are a less integral part of our society than Asians and Hispanics.

You might think otherwise because American entertainment likes to show a strong black presence, stronger than their real life presence, out of some misplaced ethnic sensitivity and to avoid controversy by the touchy, very vocal black minority who will claim racism if there isn't an acceptable number of blacks on screen, regardless if it's a true reflection of that setting or not.

American entertainment makes it seem like life is just whites and blacks, but in real life it's a lot more diverse.

 

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Re: My black friend is on point....race and racism
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2014, 06:01:38 PM »
Not true. No offense but have you been to America?

Yep, I was born and pretty much raised in New York and have spent over half of my life in America (more specifically New York City) and just came back a year ago.

Anyway, you might give a fuck about other races (then again you live on the west coast where things are "different") but more often than not black and white Americans really don't give a shit. I see it happen on pretty much on a daily basis here on the east.
 

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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2014, 11:22:30 PM »
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why do they always make it about black and white

Because in western countries the only races that matter are white and black. White folks and black folks couldn't give two shits about the other races.
That's not true.

The media will lead anyone to believe that though.

Real talk though, racism is alive and well and guess what: itll never go away. Niggas need to stop whining and using it as a crutch though. A lot of the shit on TV and in the media is giving people of color an excuse to feel sorry for themselves or to not strive for success.
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Re: My black friend is on point....race and racism
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2014, 12:40:29 AM »
Yeah, your black friend has some good points.

You know, you got white and black people growing up in the suburbs and college fraternities of America studying these issues, and their fridges are stocked, their mansions are locked.  So they really can't understand the actions of people a couple centuries ago who were really struggling for survival.  Whites and blacks all over the world were struggling for survival.  So we can look at those times and say those people were brutal, but times were hard, no matter who you were.   
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Re: My black friend is on point....race and racism
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2014, 01:58:39 PM »
The satanists (aka Ashkenazi Joos) have committed atrocities throughout history, and have been expelled from some 170 countries over the centuries, are to blame for things like slavery. They blame whites for it and unless you know who they are, you wouldn't know that they are not white, but a mongrel race. Anyway, they are the prime reason for racism and continue goading whites against blacks, Muslims against Christians, etc.

One of their lies is evolution and that everyone came from monkeys, then monkeys turned to black people, then magically white people, Asians, and every other drastically different looking sub species evolved from there.

Evolution is complete bullshit.

Btw "racism" is not a real word in the sense that it is always used. Every person's race on Earth is human. So to be racist you would have to discriminate against the human race as a whole.
 

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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2014, 02:44:29 PM »
The satanists (aka Ashkenazi Joos) have committed atrocities throughout history, and have been expelled from some 170 countries over the centuries, are to blame for things like slavery. They blame whites for it and unless you know who they are, you wouldn't know that they are not white, but a mongrel race. Anyway, they are the prime reason for racism and continue goading whites against blacks, Muslims against Christians, etc.

One of their lies is evolution and that everyone came from monkeys, then monkeys turned to black people, then magically white people, Asians, and every other drastically different looking sub species evolved from there.

Evolution is complete bullshit.

Btw "racism" is not a real word in the sense that it is always used. Every person's race on Earth is human. So to be racist you would have to discriminate against the human race as a whole.


Oh boy, and then there's this guy who makes lyin' brian look credible and level headed.
 

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Re: My black friend is on point....race and racism
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2014, 07:10:52 PM »
^ U SAYIN HE'S FULLA SHIT?

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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2014, 07:07:11 AM »
The satanists (aka Ashkenazi Joos) have committed atrocities throughout history, and have been expelled from some 170 countries over the centuries, are to blame for things like slavery. They blame whites for it and unless you know who they are, you wouldn't know that they are not white, but a mongrel race. Anyway, they are the prime reason for racism and continue goading whites against blacks, Muslims against Christians, etc.

One of their lies is evolution and that everyone came from monkeys, then monkeys turned to black people, then magically white people, Asians, and every other drastically different looking sub species evolved from there.

Evolution is complete bullshit.

Btw "racism" is not a real word in the sense that it is always used. Every person's race on Earth is human. So to be racist you would have to discriminate against the human race as a whole.


Oh boy, and then there's this guy who makes lyin' brian look credible and level headed.

I know it's difficult to break the spell society has cast upon you, but don't be scared.

What part specifically do you take umbridge with?
 

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Re: My black friend is on point....race and racism
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2014, 11:10:26 AM »
thats fucked up...u were just praisin banana the other day n he come at u like that smh

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Re: My black friend is on point....race and racism
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2014, 03:06:30 PM »

The problem with mentioning jews, is that it can sound like you have a general ill feeling towards all jews (you in the general sense of the word)

As for the satanic crowd, they encompass more than just jewish people, of course, you can say that jewish people within satanic elite groupings are the most prominent.

Was good to have a conversation with someone who is not weak minded, is not driven by the propaganda of the news or the so called academic elite.
 

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Re: My black friend is on point....race and racism
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2014, 03:31:00 PM »
Not true. No offense but have you been to America?

Yep, I was born and pretty much raised in New York and have spent over half of my life in America (more specifically New York City) and just came back a year ago.

Anyway, you might give a fuck about other races (then again you live on the west coast where things are "different") but more often than not black and white Americans really don't give a shit. I see it happen on pretty much on a daily basis here on the east.

lol dude, take it however you want to, but you're whats wrong with america. Brainwashed by The media, and by your statements seems like you never been out your culdasac, because i refuse to believe that some one that lives in one our nations 1st tier cities ( LA , NYC) has that mentality. New york is just much more conservative, a bit less diverse, but to have this mentality is bit unbelievable in the era we grew up in.

black and white? based off what? TV?

have you been or seen other industries? US is as diverse as it gets, NYC is my second home, although not as diverse as LA, theres still a bunch of cubans, koreans, chinese, indians, ricans, hell even mexicans.


and in LA, theres absolutely no such thing as just black and white. hell in any of my classes i took in every grade level (besides when i went to moorpark CC, shits just whitey ville over there, which is very far from LA, bout over an hour drive to get to downtown) if you gathered up all the black and white kids and seperated from the rest, we'd out number them probably double even.


im American, white and blacks arent the ones that make up america, its everyone, including me and you.


the day i realized i was American, and not per say "Korean"  was when i went to korea for an extended period of time.






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Re: My black friend is on point....race and racism
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2014, 03:45:17 PM »
lol dude, take it however you want to, but you're whats wrong with america. Brainwashed by The media, and by your statements seems like you never been out your culdasac, because i refuse to believe that some one that lives in one our nations 1st tier cities ( LA , NYC) has that mentality. New york is just much more conservative, a bit less diverse, but to have this mentality is bit unbelievable in the era we grew up in.

black and white? based off what? TV?

have you been or seen other industries? US is as diverse as it gets, NYC is my second home, although not as diverse as LA, theres still a bunch of cubans, koreans, chinese, indians, ricans, hell even mexicans.

and in LA, theres absolutely no such thing as just black and white. hell in any of my classes i took in every grade level (besides when i went to moorpark CC, shits just whitey ville over there, which is very far from LA, bout over an hour drive to get to downtown) if you gathered up all the black and white kids and seperated from the rest, we'd out number them probably double even.

im American, white and blacks arent the ones that make up america, its everyone, including me and you.

the day i realized i was American, and not per say "Korean"  was when i went to korea for an extended period of time.

Sure the US is diverse compared to the rest of the world. But that's if you compare it to the rest of the world. On it's own it loves to play favorites.

And whether or not you think you're Korean doesn't matter. At the end of the day your an Asian American and an outcast who isn't white or black enough for America and not Asian enough for the far east.
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Re: My black friend is on point....race and racism
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2014, 03:54:05 PM »
lol dude, take it however you want to, but you're whats wrong with america. Brainwashed by The media, and by your statements seems like you never been out your culdasac, because i refuse to believe that some one that lives in one our nations 1st tier cities ( LA , NYC) has that mentality. New york is just much more conservative, a bit less diverse, but to have this mentality is bit unbelievable in the era we grew up in.

black and white? based off what? TV?

have you been or seen other industries? US is as diverse as it gets, NYC is my second home, although not as diverse as LA, theres still a bunch of cubans, koreans, chinese, indians, ricans, hell even mexicans.

and in LA, theres absolutely no such thing as just black and white. hell in any of my classes i took in every grade level (besides when i went to moorpark CC, shits just whitey ville over there, which is very far from LA, bout over an hour drive to get to downtown) if you gathered up all the black and white kids and seperated from the rest, we'd out number them probably double even.

im American, white and blacks arent the ones that make up america, its everyone, including me and you.

the day i realized i was American, and not per say "Korean"  was when i went to korea for an extended period of time.

Sure the US is diverse compared to the rest of the world. But that's if you compare it to the rest of the world. On it's own it loves to play favorites.

And whether or not you think you're Korean doesn't matter. At the end of the day your an Asian American and an outcast who isn't white or black enough for America and not Asian enough for the far east.


what is enough? enough for what? What is enough for america? i really dont get what you're trying to say here.

for TV media? then yes.  for business success? of course not.

and outcast of what? seriously put something solid behind your posts.
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