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prisoner of war
« on: March 23, 2003, 10:05:55 AM »
the iraq TV showed several US soldiers (from texas, cansas, new jersey)...there was also a black woman from the 507 division. they (the iraqis) asked them question like "whats your name", "how old are you", "where you come from", "why do you came to iraq" and so on. one US soldier was hurt and trembled. they were all looking very fearfully. damn...i hope they will get alive outta this...shit is terriblly. german tv reported that iraq also showed dead US soldiers on tv, but the german tv doesnt showed them (too horrible).
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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2003, 10:40:49 AM »
I just watch a necessary amount of tv at the moment.
dont wanna fuck my brain up seein all that fucked up shit
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2003, 10:51:27 AM »
i feel you, but i wanna know whats happening there...even if its only propaganda.

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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2003, 10:54:16 AM »
Yea I read about this but didn't see the videos, nor do i want to. From what I heard most of the people captured were engineers and workers who were just supposed to be cleaning up the area of Umm Qasr (sp?) after the army had supposedly won it.

They said its illegal under the Geneva convention to show video of POWs. Usually I'd be mad, but since the US ignored the UN I guess fair is fair, or unfair rather. Anyway, I hope those captured are okay and get out safely.
 

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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2003, 11:15:40 AM »

They said its illegal under the Geneva convention to show video of POWs.

Iraqi prisoners of war have also been shown on video, they were shown surrendering and sitting in a barbed wire pen, showing this is illegal under Geneva convention. Donald Rumsfeld is a hypocrite.
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2003, 11:26:55 AM »
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Iraqi prisoners of war have also been shown on video, they were shown surrendering and sitting in a barbed wire pen
 

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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2003, 11:33:50 AM »
I feel for the prisoners...don't worry though....Iraq is getting the us soldiers when they are not together....these prisoners strayed off from their position...US will get them back alive hopefully and how horrible it was that they showed dead americans on tv....we don't show the injured and dead iraqi's on tv...

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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2003, 12:22:48 PM »

They said its illegal under the Geneva convention to show video of POWs.

Iraqi prisoners of war have also been shown on video, they were shown surrendering and sitting in a barbed wire pen, showing this is illegal under Geneva convention. Donald Rumsfeld is a hypocrite.

No, you are an idiot. There is a huge difference. Iraqi prisoners were simply shown surrendering in the field as part of combat. American prisoners were taken into custody and put in front of a camera and questioned in a sick propaganda attempt by the Iraqi government. The Iraqi government also showed video of dead American soldiers in an Iraqi morgue. What they are doing violates the Geneva convention. This is sick and only shows how barbaric Iraq really is. I would bet my life that they are torurting our soliders, just like they did in the last Persian Gulf War.
 

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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2003, 12:24:36 PM »
I just watch a necessary amount of tv at the moment.
dont wanna fuck my brain up seein all that fucked up shit

7Even what the hell is up with the picture in your avatar.
 

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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2003, 12:50:32 PM »

No, you are an idiot. There is a huge difference. Iraqi prisoners were simply shown surrendering in the field as part of combat. American prisoners were taken into custody and put in front of a camera and questioned in a sick propaganda attempt by the Iraqi government. The Iraqi government also showed video of dead American soldiers in an Iraqi morgue. What they are doing violates the Geneva convention. This is sick and only shows how barbaric Iraq really is. I would bet my life that they are torurting our soliders, just like they did in the last Persian Gulf War.

You're the idiot, the iraqi prisoners of war were shown as a propaganda stunt to lower moral of the iraqi troops so more would surrender and to convince the public the war is going well. They were not only shown surrendering, they were shown in barbed wire pen with their hands tied. There have also been pictures of dead Iraqi troops. What makes you think the Iraqi POWs are not going to be tortured?, POWs from Afghanistan were, look at Camp X-Ray in Cuba, they were taken there so they would not have any legal protection, injected with drugs and tortured, kept in small cages, their religion disrespected, you would'nt treat a animal like that. At the moment the Iraqi troops are being shown to be treated well, but since most of the world is against the war they have to be. America cant even treat prisoners from its own country well.
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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2003, 02:05:08 PM »
I just watch a necessary amount of tv at the moment.
dont wanna fuck my brain up seein all that fucked up shit

7Even what the hell is up with the picture in your avatar.

what the hell is up with YOUR picture in your avatar :p
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2003, 06:11:19 AM »
the iraq TV showed several US soldiers (from texas, cansas, new jersey)...there was also a black woman from the 507 division. they (the iraqis) asked them question like "whats your name", "how old are you", "where you come from", "why do you came to iraq" and so on. one US soldier was hurt and trembled. they were all looking very fearfully. damn...i hope they will get alive outta this...shit is terriblly. german tv reported that iraq also showed dead US soldiers on tv, but the german tv doesnt showed them (too horrible).

This is totally incomparable to showing scenes on CNN every hour of America obliterating bagdad with bombs.
 

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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2003, 01:05:42 PM »


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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2003, 01:18:53 PM »
period
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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2003, 04:34:22 PM »
To be fair, LOL, the Taliban prisoners aren't classed as POWs.

And I still do not see how that justifies what Saddam has done.
 

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« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2003, 06:10:18 PM »
To be fair, LOL, the Taliban prisoners aren't classed as POWs.

And I still do not see how that justifies what Saddam has done.
usa went to afghanistan to fight a war, so by definition, the captured talibans are POWs
 

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« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2003, 06:09:30 AM »
usa went to afghanistan to fight a war, so by definition, the captured talibans are POWs

A POW is someone captured in uniform. The US classifies the people in Camp X-Ray as spies, as they captured out of uniform.
 

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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2003, 10:16:15 AM »
ppl are ppl fuck uniform
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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2003, 11:49:16 AM »
usa went to afghanistan to fight a war, so by definition, the captured talibans are POWs

A POW is someone captured in uniform. The US classifies the people in Camp X-Ray as spies, as they captured out of uniform.

i POW does NOT nessecarly mean a man in uniform...

according to cambridge dictionary:

pow (prisoner of war) = a member of the armed forces who has been caught by enemy forces during a war

usa went to afghanistan and battled an armed force (the talibans), they captured members of the armed force during the time they battled, THERFORE BY DEFINITION: the captured talibans are POW's
 

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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2003, 01:51:12 PM »
i POW does NOT nessecarly mean a man in uniform...

according to cambridge dictionary:

pow (prisoner of war) = a member of the armed forces who has been caught by enemy forces during a war

usa went to afghanistan and battled an armed force (the talibans), they captured members of the armed force during the time they battled, THERFORE BY DEFINITION: the captured talibans are POW's

The Geneva Convention says a POW is someone captured in uniform. Please, it does NOT matter what the dictionary says; we're talking about the Geneva Convention here, and THAT says a POW is someone in uniform.

And 7even, stop taking those pills my friend, that post was so retarded, it made my eyes hurt. It made a good point, but it was out of context, and didn't mean anything in the discussion being had.

Oh, anothe rgreat point I just heard: if Guantanamo Bay justifies Saddam's treatment of prisoners, does Saddam's treatment of his own people mean Bush can gas people in cities he doesn't like?
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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2003, 03:05:37 PM »
i POW does NOT nessecarly mean a man in uniform...

according to cambridge dictionary:

pow (prisoner of war) = a member of the armed forces who has been caught by enemy forces during a war

usa went to afghanistan and battled an armed force (the talibans), they captured members of the armed force during the time they battled, THERFORE BY DEFINITION: the captured talibans are POW's


And 7even, stop taking those pills my friend, that post was so retarded, it made my eyes hurt. It made a good point, but it was out of context, and didn't mean anything in the discussion being had.



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« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2003, 09:20:12 AM »
its also mad cool that Iraqis dress as US soldiers and shoot up civilians. :-\
 

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« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2003, 01:59:54 PM »
It's funny seeing people arguing on things they have NO idea about and using half-truths and assumptions to back their arguments up...

Props to Owen for trying to bring some truth...

Some people just hate America so much that they will try and justify the same shit they hate on America for doing when it's somebody else doing it...