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Re:The funniest shit about this whole war with Iraq is....
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2003, 07:30:28 PM »
that is pretty funny tech i agree. but it's not the only reason for going  to war......but it's like the radio said the other day , without the US and UK how much power does the UN have.....95% of your power is going against you


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Re:The funniest shit about this whole war with Iraq is....
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2003, 01:32:42 AM »
Do you know why the UN is "irrelevent"? Because the US  has constantly undermined it by ignoring its resolutions and vetoing any condemnation of Israel. You cant simply undermine an organization consistently then complain when the organization is no longer as effective as you'd hope.
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Re:The funniest shit about this whole war with Iraq is....
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2003, 01:36:01 AM »
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The US is going to war with Iraq without UN approval in order to uphold a UN resolution.

 ::)..this shows that the un is irrelevant...certain countries sign documents and when it comes time to act they hide in a corner like a bunch of cowards...the u.s. just isnt afraid to stand up for their interests


if the UN was irrelevant, why is your nation going to war to uphold its resolution?
Because the consequences of Saddam's weapons of mass destruction getting into the wrong hands would be disastrous.



1. First of all, it is very easy to use a very simple term to describe a complex thing. Weapons of Mass Destruction? If you talkin about nukes, Iraq doesnt have it.

2. Do you know that invading Iraq and replacing its govt  will create the scenerio where weapons fall in the wrong hands? Saddam was the leader of Iraq for almost 30 years. He brings stability. He has kept Iraqs infrastructure intact. Saddam goes, and there will be a political vacuum in Baghdad. Kurdish militias, Islamic fundementalists, Shiite groups, Sunni academics will ALL be vying for power. You guys are shooting yourselves in the foot here.
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Re:The funniest shit about this whole war with Iraq is....
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2003, 08:31:06 AM »
2. Do you know that invading Iraq and replacing its govt  will create the scenerio where weapons fall in the wrong hands? Saddam was the leader of Iraq for almost 30 years. He brings stability. He has kept Iraqs infrastructure intact. Saddam goes, and there will be a political vacuum in Baghdad. Kurdish militias, Islamic fundementalists, Shiite groups, Sunni academics will ALL be vying for power. You guys are shooting yourselves in the foot here.

You have to expect that to happen and figure out how to solve that problem but I would like to think that once this is taken care of it would be a hell of a lot better than having Saddam in charge or even worse Uday.
 

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Re:The funniest shit about this whole war with Iraq is....
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2003, 11:10:42 AM »
But I still dont understand why your govt is pursuing a scenerio where their fears have the most odds of becoming reality? Nah mean. Unless of course there are some hidden agendas and interests here, but of course, history has shown American doesnt do that.  ::)
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Re:The funniest shit about this whole war with Iraq is....
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2003, 11:53:34 AM »
without the US and UK how much power does the UN have.....95% of your power is going against you

that 95% being the US and UK


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Re:The funniest shit about this whole war with Iraq is....
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2003, 02:29:16 PM »
vetoing any condemnation of Israel.

Keep this in mind:
There has been a genocide in Rwanda, an ethnic cleansing in Yugoslavia, periodic and horrifying communal "strife" in Indonesia's East Timor, the "disappearance" of a few hundred thousand refugees in the Congo, a decades-long and culturally devastating occupation of Tibet by the People's Republic of China . . . but none of those U.N. member states has ever been subjected to the rebuke of a General Assembly "emergency special session." Israel has, though, repeatedly.
 

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Re:The funniest shit about this whole war with Iraq is....
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2003, 07:07:08 PM »
I fully understand that in recent years the UN has failed miserable in Rwanda, Yugoslavia etc. However, UN inaction doesnt in any way change the fact that the US has undermined it for decades. Yes, Israel has been chastised when Rwanda goes free, but that doesnt change the fact that Israel was criticized.
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Re:The funniest shit about this whole war with Iraq is....
« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2003, 12:57:35 PM »
I think some rational thinking should be brought to this thread.

I believe bush is a relatively evil (and slightly stupid man). However I dont think you can compare him to saddam in terms of evil, because saddam is pure evil. Bush I feel however is more of a threat to world stability, and that is what worries people. Look at his record post clinton : He's started two wars. He has undermined the UN and left it in tatters, he has split the EU down the middle, he has created the biggest global political controvery in most of our memories, and now he is bombing baghdad live on television. Now that is a threat to world stability.

I have been saying what tech's leading statement was from day one. It's hypocrisy. Fortunately Tony Blair is bringing some stabilty to this alliance by effectively setting israel as one of the conditions for going to war hand in hand with america. If that can be achieved, then maybe we will see a more peaceful world.

Now someone said that we only hate bush coz he is american. That is as wide of the mark as possible. Pre-Bush, Ireland had no anti-american sentiment to speak of, in factg we loved america, because of historical ties, and the good work of clinton in our own peace process. How the tables have turned however. In a matter of months we have people ridiculing the us president in workplaces and in school canteens, where politics rarely enters. This is anti-bush administration, not anti-american, but unfortunately we are getting the impression that americans agree with his stance and this is causing people to find difficulty differentiating between bush and america. In Bush's term so far he has turned america from being the savior to the villian of the western world, and he's only half way through.
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Re:The funniest shit about this whole war with Iraq is....
« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2003, 03:50:51 PM »
I think some rational thinking should be brought to this thread.

I believe bush is a relatively evil (and slightly stupid man). However I dont think you can compare him to saddam in terms of evil, because saddam is pure evil. Bush I feel however is more of a threat to world stability, and that is what worries people. Look at his record post clinton : He's started two wars. He has undermined the UN and left it in tatters, he has split the EU down the middle, he has created the biggest global political controvery in most of our memories, and now he is bombing baghdad live on television. Now that is a threat to world stability.

I have been saying what tech's leading statement was from day one. It's hypocrisy. Fortunately Tony Blair is bringing some stabilty to this alliance by effectively setting israel as one of the conditions for going to war hand in hand with america. If that can be achieved, then maybe we will see a more peaceful world.

Now someone said that we only hate bush coz he is american. That is as wide of the mark as possible. Pre-Bush, Ireland had no anti-american sentiment to speak of, in factg we loved america, because of historical ties, and the good work of clinton in our own peace process. How the tables have turned however. In a matter of months we have people ridiculing the us president in workplaces and in school canteens, where politics rarely enters. This is anti-bush administration, not anti-american, but unfortunately we are getting the impression that americans agree with his stance and this is causing people to find difficulty differentiating between bush and america. In Bush's term so far he has turned america from being the savior to the villian of the western world, and he's only half way through.

So, you think Bush is out to kill people who get in his plan to take over the world? Have you ever seen Pinky and the Brain?
 

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Re:The funniest shit about this whole war with Iraq is....
« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2003, 10:57:47 AM »
Well I doubt he sets out to do it, but it hasnt bothered him so far. 8 Iraqis including 5 children were shot dead by US troops for not stopping at a checkpoint when there were no signs in arabic and apparently these soldiers acted "right". Now if a president was good at heart he would come out and condemn such aimless killings not condone them, because at the root of it he sent the troops there and what blood they spill is on his hands.

And yeah i used to watch pinky and the brain. Quality tv lol
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Re:The funniest shit about this whole war with Iraq is....
« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2003, 11:29:24 AM »
the reason why they did this was becuase of undercover soldier dressing as civilians  killing soldiers when they say they're going to surrender


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Re:The funniest shit about this whole war with Iraq is....
« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2003, 02:37:17 AM »
He's started two wars.

Iraq and...

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I really hope you aren't going to say afghanistan.
 

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Re:The funniest shit about this whole war with Iraq is....
« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2003, 01:06:22 PM »
Well, despite the moral justifications and excuse for war, technically Bush DID start a war in Afghanistan. This is an undeniable fact.
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Re:The funniest shit about this whole war with Iraq is....
« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2003, 01:10:56 PM »
Well, despite the moral justifications and excuse for war, technically Bush DID start a war in Afghanistan. This is an undeniable fact.
Excuse?
Sorry, 3000 peoples lives weren't an "excuse" to start a war...
 

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Re:The funniest shit about this whole war with Iraq is....
« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2003, 01:29:08 PM »
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Re:The funniest shit about this whole war with Iraq is....
« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2003, 01:43:01 PM »
Iraq and afghanistan.
Afghanistan was more justified though I still didnt agree with it, after all they didnt get bin laden.

But the point is he started 2 wars, justified or not.
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« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2003, 03:01:09 PM »
Well, despite the moral justifications and excuse for war, technically Bush DID start a war in Afghanistan. This is an undeniable fact.
Excuse?
Sorry, 3000 peoples lives weren't an "excuse" to start a war...

Yes it was. 3000 peoples lives was an excuse to take another 4000 peoples lives. But this is besides the point. The fact is, Bush started 2 wars already,
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« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2003, 03:03:43 PM »
If an american terrorist had fucked the WTC, they would have bombed their own country?
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Re:The funniest shit about this whole war with Iraq is....
« Reply #44 on: April 02, 2003, 04:59:06 PM »
Well, despite the moral justifications and excuse for war, technically Bush DID start a war in Afghanistan. This is an undeniable fact.
Excuse?
Sorry, 3000 peoples lives weren't an "excuse" to start a war...

Yes it was. 3000 peoples lives was an excuse to take another 4000 peoples lives. But this is besides the point. The fact is, Bush started 2 wars already,


yeah that is waaay beside the point...its BULLSHIT. What you are implying is that we used the terrorist attack purely to murder Afghanistanis...lmao paranaoid faghan
 

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Re:The funniest shit about this whole war with Iraq is....
« Reply #45 on: April 02, 2003, 05:01:56 PM »
If an american terrorist had fucked the WTC, they would have bombed their own country?

No...they woulda put him on aAmericans Most wanted and  when they found him, woulda given him the death sentence...refer to the Oklahoma City Unibomber for an example smart one.
 

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Re:The funniest shit about this whole war with Iraq is....
« Reply #46 on: April 05, 2003, 06:50:43 PM »
Anyone who says Bush is more evil than Saddam deserves to get raped in the ear with a 16 1/2 inch penis...