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« on: March 27, 2003, 05:29:50 PM »
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a crusade........ hahaha.... i thought this war is about freeing people?!
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2003, 06:04:39 PM »
I hope Christian missionaries do go to post war Iraq. Those people need to be civilized.

There is nothing wrong with that......Iraq is going to be free and free countries allow people to preach about their religion. No one stops Muslims from seeking converts here in the west.
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2003, 12:20:32 PM »
As you might recall, there's no war goin on in the west. What would you do if foreigners invaded your country and tried to proselytize you? I guess you would call it a crusade.

 

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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2003, 12:43:56 PM »
As you might recall, there's no war goin on in the west. What would you do if foreigners invaded your country and tried to proselytize you? I guess you would call it a crusade.



There are already tons of foreigners in America and yes they do proselytize. If Muslims can do it, why can't Christians?
 

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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2003, 01:30:00 PM »
But do you see Muslim armies entering America then preaching?
"One day Alice came to a fork in the road and saw a Cheshire cat in a tree. "Which road do I take?" she asked. "Where do you want to go?" was his response. "I don't know," Alice answered. "Then," said the cat, "it doesn't matter."

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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2003, 01:31:10 PM »
as sum ppl might know, I already mentioned several times it is a muthafuckin crusade.
Cause I don't care where I belong no more
What we share or not I will ignore
And I won't waste my time fitting in
Cause I don't think contrast is a sin
No, it's not a sin
 

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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2003, 01:35:41 PM »
But do you see Muslim armies entering America then preaching?

Hah if they could they would...

Look at history..whenever muslims have gone into a territory, they have tried to convert the population...and if they don't they receive high penalties or even death...in Kashmir they only gave the Hindus 2 options death or convertion. No wonder theres so many of u muthafuckaz  >:(
 

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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2003, 02:01:42 PM »
But do you see Muslim armies entering America then preaching?

Apart from the Spanish wars, which started well before the Crusades (thankyou Charles Martel and El Cid), there was one thing that happened where Muslims invaded a country with a religious message...

9/11
 

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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2003, 03:40:58 PM »
But do you see Muslim armies entering America then preaching?

Hah if they could they would...

Look at history..whenever muslims have gone into a territory, they have tried to convert the population...and if they don't they receive high penalties or even death...in Kashmir they only gave the Hindus 2 options death or convertion. No wonder theres so many of u muthafuckaz  >:(

omg
 

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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2003, 03:44:34 PM »
But do you see Muslim armies entering America then preaching?

Apart from the Spanish wars, which started well before the Crusades (thankyou Charles Martel and El Cid), there was one thing that happened where Muslims invaded a country with a religious message...

9/11

oh my god... owen, are you serious?? Gather some information about Baruch de Spinoza and why there is such big a Jewish community in Amsterdam....

p/s calling 9/11 an invasion is just stupid.
 

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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2003, 03:49:51 PM »
 

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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2003, 03:50:00 PM »
But do you see Muslim armies entering America then preaching?

Hah if they could they would...

Look at history..whenever muslims have gone into a territory, they have tried to convert the population...and if they don't they receive high penalties or even death...in Kashmir they only gave the Hindus 2 options death or convertion. No wonder theres so many of u muthafuckaz  >:(

Seriously, get some knowledge on the crusades and colonialism. have you ever heard of john winthorp? the american adam on a virgin soil? do you know francesco pizarro? the conquista? damn... guys like you always prefer the easy way.... besides, the fact that you can't deal with the things goin on in kashmir just prove that you're blind with hatred. poor fool.
 

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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2003, 05:41:28 PM »
To those that didnt get it...ALL muslims weren't forcefully converted..ONLY IN KASHMIR...in most other conquered areas they had THREE options...CONVERT, PAY (HIGH) TAXES, OR DEATH.

Hey Agua I have enough education on history...I passed AP European History in high school with a 4(out of 5)...good score...I aint bout to get a college degree in history lol..and whatever I said was true, what the fuck are YOU tryin to say?
 

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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2003, 05:45:10 PM »
How is it a Christian crusade when the red cross is working side by side with the red crescent?

Christians and Muslims working side by side judging by the statements on this board you wouldn't think it possible :o



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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2003, 05:49:08 PM »
To those that didnt get it...ALL muslims weren't forcefully converted..ONLY IN KASHMIR...in most other conquered areas they had THREE options...CONVERT, PAY (HIGH) TAXES, OR DEATH.

Hey Agua I have enough education on history...I passed AP European History in high school with a 4(out of 5)...good score...I aint bout to get a college degree in history lol..and whatever I said was true, what the fuck are YOU tryin to say?

enough education.... it's about good education..... quantity isn't quality.... by the way, your "three options" are bs.

p/s true.... omg
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« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2003, 05:50:24 PM »
How is it a Christian crusade when the red cross is working side by side with the red crescent?

Christians and Muslims working side by side judging by the statements on this board you wouldn't think it possible :o

the red cross isn't us government
 

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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2003, 06:03:08 PM »
oh my god... owen, are you serious?? Gather some information about Baruch de Spinoza and why there is such big a Jewish community in Amsterdam....

p/s calling 9/11 an invasion is just stupid.

The first part of that post made no sense. I'll recheck my facts, but I don't think that has any real bearing on the discussion.

And as for the P.S....*vomits* What was it then? Are you denying Bin Laden's stated aim is to convert everyone to his Wahabi Islam?
 

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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2003, 06:09:25 PM »
enough education.... it's about good education..... quantity isn't quality.... by the way, your "three options" are bs.

p/s true.... omg

Those were the three options given to Hindu Kashmiris in majority Muslim areas. Accept facts.

And what was that P.S. about? LOL
 

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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2003, 06:15:06 PM »
oh my god... owen, are you serious?? Gather some information about Baruch de Spinoza and why there is such big a Jewish community in Amsterdam....

p/s calling 9/11 an invasion is just stupid.

The first part of that post made no sense. I'll recheck my facts, but I don't think that has any real bearing on the discussion.

And as for the P.S....*vomits* What was it then? Are you denying Bin Laden's stated aim is to convert everyone to his Wahabi Islam?

9/11 was a terrorist attack. bin laden and his bunch of morons do not represent the islamic world.
as for the first part, i was trying to say that spain flourished under the moors. the conditions were far from being perfect but definitely acceptable - especially with regard to religious things. however, when the christians took over in the late 15th century, this state of "tolerance" was yesterday's news.
 

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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2003, 06:21:15 PM »
enough education.... it's about good education..... quantity isn't quality.... by the way, your "three options" are bs.

p/s true.... omg

Those were the three options given to Hindu Kashmiris in majority Muslim areas. Accept facts.

And what was that P.S. about? LOL

pardon, but in the beginning he said they were given only two options..... hence i think he refers to other regions in the world, especially since he said something like this: "in most other conquered areas they had THREE options...CONVERT, PAY (HIGH) TAXES, OR DEATH."

p/s i detest the word "true".
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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2003, 06:38:47 PM »
To the second post, okay then, understood.

The Moors did not represent the entire Islamic world, and neither do moderate Muslims today. 9/11 was about religion...Therefore, it wasn't a group of Saudis invading the USA, it was a group of Muslims initiating a Holy War to take over the USA.

And for the other one...So you're suggesting that you'd rather El Cid had lost and let Yusuf, an extremist who supported the Jannisary movement (wherein Christian children were kidnapped and forcefully converted), take over Spain? You'd rather have Charles Martel lose at Tours, and have Europe forcefully converted to Islam? (when Tours happened, the Moors were not so kind as they were later on)
 

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« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2003, 09:47:39 PM »
But do you see Muslim armies entering America then preaching?

Muslims dont have to invade America because we are already a free country that allows people to do whatever they want, including preaching their religion. The Middle East does not.

Your post makes no sense. What do armies have to do with anything. People should be free to prostyltize if they want.
 

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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2003, 12:10:56 PM »
flower boy....
 

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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2003, 12:42:22 PM »
lol at the ignorance in this thread
 

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« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2003, 05:03:02 PM »
To the second post, okay then, understood.

The Moors did not represent the entire Islamic world, and neither do moderate Muslims today. 9/11 was about religion...Therefore, it wasn't a group of Saudis invading the USA, it was a group of Muslims initiating a Holy War to take over the USA.

And for the other one...So you're suggesting that you'd rather El Cid had lost and let Yusuf, an extremist who supported the Jannisary movement (wherein Christian children were kidnapped and forcefully converted), take over Spain? You'd rather have Charles Martel lose at Tours, and have Europe forcefully converted to Islam? (when Tours happened, the Moors were not so kind as they were later on)

uhm... do you know that the northern kingdoms in spain were populated by christian fanatics? do you know that islam was the most tolerant religion at that particular period of time? after el cid the whole thing got worse. I daresay that Cid was of central importance as far as the conquista is concerned.