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Preach.

I just had to get into this thread for a minute cause this is probably the most on point post I have ever read on here.

Enough with the ridiculous conspiracy theories already! I don't know whether to laugh or cry because of the people who actual believe all this far fetched nonsense.

Jay-Z is a Freemason, Lady GaGa uses occult images, Rihanna an Illuminati princess blah blah blah, people need to get their heads examined and start living their lives in the real world.

Jesus H. Christ, unbelievable!






Jay-Z is a Freemason, in the real world. No one said anything about Ga Ga or Rhianna so miss me with that.

Okay this is getting ridiculous now. Y'all are digging wayyyy too deep. If they wanted to frame the murder as gang murder, then why not bullshit some evidence and convict Orlando Anderson? Why did they let him go and leave the door open for all of these ridiculous conspiracy theories?

At the time of Pac's death he wasn't even in a position to "lead" a group of people. He was a gang banging drug addict that even admitted in that Monster interview that "gang bang shit is his priority now." He was a loose cannon nutcase that wasn't even preaching the same shit he was on Thug Life and 2Pacalypse Now. They could have figured out ways to kill him in jail, kill him during his robbery, countless ways.

At the time of his death, Pac was not heralded by anyone as a MLK or Malcolm X figure, sorry to burst everyone's bubble. This all came years after his death. Who cares if Orlando Anderson was listening to him and was a fan of his music. He got the shit beat out of him publicly over a gang beef, and he wouldn't live to see another day if he didn't retaliate, whether he wanted to or not. Southside would have crucified him if he didn't at least attempt retaliation.

If someone like an RJ Bond were to present evidence to the public without it being changed literally 5 times over the years, and not seeking monetary gain, then there's something to look at.

Y'all are stretching WAY too much. Word is bond, I've been told by Crips that Orlando openly admitted he killed Pac. The streets wouldn't lie over this shit, if they thought something was fishy they'd wanna seek that out rather than MOB members under the assumption for 18 years that Pac was murdered by Crips. If they knew that wasn't the case, they'd pursue that.

We know damn well that Suge and everyone else around saw who killed Pac. Street code is real and it's not something they can go to police about. The retaliation murders in Compton the following week will tell you everything you need to know. This is getting comical.
Ok. Maybe you're right. Then again maybe you're not. Ask J Mix about the retaliation murders in Compton first before you decide. I find it funny that you make it sound like an open and shut case yet just as you said, why wasn't Anderson ever arrested for Pac's murder? Maybe he didn't do it. Food for thought.
 

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tell anton batey i said sup.

Anton was over last night, we were playing naked twisted with Samantha. She got tired of looking after the kids and wanted to actually have some fun, rather than being stuck home with you.  Shes a nice girl and she told me Pac was a blood, we then had a packet of cheetos and played doctors and nurses

i am sure you and samantha and anton had a great time. lmao

it was a great dinner party, i was losing at uno so we turned to jenga. After that we laughed at how much of a coward frank was, because he didnt do his job that night in vegas

your not even good at trolling.


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Preach.

I just had to get into this thread for a minute cause this is probably the most on point post I have ever read on here.

Enough with the ridiculous conspiracy theories already! I don't know whether to laugh or cry because of the people who actual believe all this far fetched nonsense.

Jay-Z is a Freemason, Lady GaGa uses occult images, Rihanna an Illuminati princess blah blah blah, people need to get their heads examined and start living their lives in the real world.

Jesus H. Christ, unbelievable!






Jay-Z is a Freemason, in the real world. No one said anything about Ga Ga or Rhianna so miss me with that.

Okay this is getting ridiculous now. Y'all are digging wayyyy too deep. If they wanted to frame the murder as gang murder, then why not bullshit some evidence and convict Orlando Anderson? Why did they let him go and leave the door open for all of these ridiculous conspiracy theories?

At the time of Pac's death he wasn't even in a position to "lead" a group of people. He was a gang banging drug addict that even admitted in that Monster interview that "gang bang shit is his priority now." He was a loose cannon nutcase that wasn't even preaching the same shit he was on Thug Life and 2Pacalypse Now. They could have figured out ways to kill him in jail, kill him during his robbery, countless ways.

At the time of his death, Pac was not heralded by anyone as a MLK or Malcolm X figure, sorry to burst everyone's bubble. This all came years after his death. Who cares if Orlando Anderson was listening to him and was a fan of his music. He got the shit beat out of him publicly over a gang beef, and he wouldn't live to see another day if he didn't retaliate, whether he wanted to or not. Southside would have crucified him if he didn't at least attempt retaliation.

If someone like an RJ Bond were to present evidence to the public without it being changed literally 5 times over the years, and not seeking monetary gain, then there's something to look at.

Y'all are stretching WAY too much. Word is bond, I've been told by Crips that Orlando openly admitted he killed Pac. The streets wouldn't lie over this shit, if they thought something was fishy they'd wanna seek that out rather than MOB members under the assumption for 18 years that Pac was murdered by Crips. If they knew that wasn't the case, they'd pursue that.

We know damn well that Suge and everyone else around saw who killed Pac. Street code is real and it's not something they can go to police about. The retaliation murders in Compton the following week will tell you everything you need to know. This is getting comical.
Ok. Maybe you're right. Then again maybe you're not. Ask J Mix about the retaliation murders in Compton first before you decide. I find it funny that you make it sound like an open and shut case yet just as you said, why wasn't Anderson ever arrested for Pac's murder? Maybe he didn't do it. Food for thought.

I'll tell you why. Because there was no evidence, because no witnesses were speaking up, and because I don't think it was exactly high on the list of priorities to be solved. Gang murders don't get solved about half the time. Why? Cause people don't snitch.

Sorry, but JMix is not the end all be all, especially his views on retaliation murders and things of that nature. This is not a diss, but he's someone who decided to interview people close to Pac 18 years after his murder, 90% of them haven't done shit in the music or entertainment industry in the last 15 years and they need an outlet to be relevant again. I've been drenched in this shit since 1996, living right in the middle of it and being close (personal, not Internet) friends with several Death Row employees/members, Mob associates, and rappers (one of them is known, an LA Crip who told me Orlando Anderson personally shared that he murdered Pac with him). These people Jmix is interviewing are saying Pac didn't gang bang cause he was a Christian - he's being spoon fed bullshit by people.

Check the files bro. To anyone from LA or who shares ties with anyone around that movement at the time, this is an open and shut case. But we also live in America where we require justification without a shadow of a doubt to prove someone guilty of a crime, hence Orlando Anderson walked. Word would have gotten back to the Mob that Southside didn't do it if wasn't them - that's just the way shit is with that lifestyle. Word travels fast and the word has always been that Pac died for the set

And also, lmao @ "jay-z is a free mason" as if you know the dudes personal life and can vouch for him. You don't know one thing about the man other than the fact that he has 11 platinum albums
 

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& yet the FBI had surveillance on him daily upon his release, which debunks all of the "it's too far fetched" rebuttal nonsense, or that he wasn't deemed as a threat. People hate to have their illusions shattered, because all the pieces seem to fit and in a much more glorious manner with the Orlando Anderson theory, but then they usually do, when there's deliberately withheld info.

Mopreme & others have said that it was cops, IE; cops being a vague term, when one of them mentioned that they couldn't say any more than that. You don't hear any of that of course because it stems away from either 1 of 2 theories - The Orlando Anderson theory, or the "he's alive" theory

The "streets" also have a habit of perpetuating "chinese whispers" too.

As far as the music industry goes with occult images, you'd have to be blind to not notice. Almost every mainstream act has it tailored into their contracts to throw up occult symbolism. Baphomet, the Eye of Horus etc. Rihanna's umbrella video? Bad Romance? The entire 2009 Video Music Awards? It's so blatantly obvious that it's almost commercialised now to endorse occult symbolism. Back in the 80's and 90's you had people speaking out. Only those that continue to follow the 'rules' will remain on top, or did you think that "talent" and "self-creativity" got you there?
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Where's your proof that the FBI had surveillance on him daily upon his release? Did some DVD say that?
 

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Preach.

I just had to get into this thread for a minute cause this is probably the most on point post I have ever read on here.

Enough with the ridiculous conspiracy theories already! I don't know whether to laugh or cry because of the people who actual believe all this far fetched nonsense.

Jay-Z is a Freemason, Lady GaGa uses occult images, Rihanna an Illuminati princess blah blah blah, people need to get their heads examined and start living their lives in the real world.

Jesus H. Christ, unbelievable!






Jay-Z is a Freemason, in the real world. No one said anything about Ga Ga or Rhianna so miss me with that.

Okay this is getting ridiculous now. Y'all are digging wayyyy too deep. If they wanted to frame the murder as gang murder, then why not bullshit some evidence and convict Orlando Anderson? Why did they let him go and leave the door open for all of these ridiculous conspiracy theories?

At the time of Pac's death he wasn't even in a position to "lead" a group of people. He was a gang banging drug addict that even admitted in that Monster interview that "gang bang shit is his priority now." He was a loose cannon nutcase that wasn't even preaching the same shit he was on Thug Life and 2Pacalypse Now. They could have figured out ways to kill him in jail, kill him during his robbery, countless ways.

At the time of his death, Pac was not heralded by anyone as a MLK or Malcolm X figure, sorry to burst everyone's bubble. This all came years after his death. Who cares if Orlando Anderson was listening to him and was a fan of his music. He got the shit beat out of him publicly over a gang beef, and he wouldn't live to see another day if he didn't retaliate, whether he wanted to or not. Southside would have crucified him if he didn't at least attempt retaliation.

If someone like an RJ Bond were to present evidence to the public without it being changed literally 5 times over the years, and not seeking monetary gain, then there's something to look at.

Y'all are stretching WAY too much. Word is bond, I've been told by Crips that Orlando openly admitted he killed Pac. The streets wouldn't lie over this shit, if they thought something was fishy they'd wanna seek that out rather than MOB members under the assumption for 18 years that Pac was murdered by Crips. If they knew that wasn't the case, they'd pursue that.

We know damn well that Suge and everyone else around saw who killed Pac. Street code is real and it's not something they can go to police about. The retaliation murders in Compton the following week will tell you everything you need to know. This is getting comical.
Ok. Maybe you're right. Then again maybe you're not. Ask J Mix about the retaliation murders in Compton first before you decide. I find it funny that you make it sound like an open and shut case yet just as you said, why wasn't Anderson ever arrested for Pac's murder? Maybe he didn't do it. Food for thought.

I'll tell you why. Because there was no evidence, because no witnesses were speaking up, and because I don't think it was exactly high on the list of priorities to be solved. Gang murders don't get solved about half the time. Why? Cause people don't snitch.

Sorry, but JMix is not the end all be all, especially his views on retaliation murders and things of that nature. This is not a diss, but he's someone who decided to interview people close to Pac 18 years after his murder, 90% of them haven't done shit in the music or entertainment industry in the last 15 years and they need an outlet to be relevant again. I've been drenched in this shit since 1996, living right in the middle of it and being close (personal, not Internet) friends with several Death Row employees/members, Mob associates, and rappers (one of them is known, an LA Crip who told me Orlando Anderson personally shared that he murdered Pac with him). These people Jmix is interviewing are saying Pac didn't gang bang cause he was a Christian - he's being spoon fed bullshit by people.

Check the files bro. To anyone from LA or who shares ties with anyone around that movement at the time, this is an open and shut case. But we also live in America where we require justification without a shadow of a doubt to prove someone guilty of a crime, hence Orlando Anderson walked. Word would have gotten back to the Mob that Southside didn't do it if wasn't them - that's just the way shit is with that lifestyle. Word travels fast and the word has always been that Pac died for the set

And also, lmao @ "jay-z is a free mason" as if you know the dudes personal life and can vouch for him. You don't know one thing about the man other than the fact that he has 11 platinum albums

Nah you have me confused, I don't think J Mix has all of the answers. In fact I said something similar in this thread already. I just know that he has gone into detail about the retaliation murders that followed. Nothing else you have stated moves me because there are still many inconsistencies that have to be answered. Such as Orlando Anderson testifying for Tupac. If Suge saw Anderson kill Pac as you say then no matter how bad Suge would have wanted to stay out of jail that never would have happened. Then you have stuff like the security (police + fbi) telling them not to bring their guns to vegas. You say Pac wasn't a threat and that simply isn't true. If he wasn't then why was he under surveillance? The list goes on an on. I'll say it again, I don't hold to one view and until I get more answers I won't. If you think this is all so crazy and whatnot then so what? You can't change my mind. You could be anyone, all I see is text that I may or may not believe.

Miss me with the Jay-z comment I don't have to know him personally to know he's a Freemason. I'm laughing right back at you. I'll leave you with this:
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Red & Blue Lodges
by Don Falconer
Brethren,

Comprehensive answers to the reasons for calling the Craft and the Chapter blue and red lodges respectively are give in my paper entitled "The Symbolism of Colours" - which is Chapter 14 in the revised edition of my book. I will begin posting this paper during the coming week. The following extracts taken from different sections of the chapter will give you a lead, but you will have to read the whole chapter to get the full picture. The symbolism of a wide range of colours from ancient times to the present is discussed at length. In addition to the following, you will read elsewhere in the chapter that red is an ancient symbol of fervency and zeal, which is one of the core teachings of the Royal Arch and its associated degrees.

Blue is the fundamental colour of ancient, free and accepted masonry, or that branch of speculative freemasonry commonly called craft freemasonry and meeting in what are known as blue lodges. Blue is the fundamental colour because, as a symbol of universal friendship and benevolence, it is intended to remind every brother that in his breast these virtues should be equally extensive. The degrees of craft freemasonry are the basis of speculative freemasonry and are a prerequisite for membership of all branches of freemasonry. Capitular freemasonry is an extension of craft freemasonry and relates to the rebuilding of the temple and symbolically to the rebuilding of life. It is typified by the colour red and meets in Royal Arch Chapters, commonly called red lodges.

Although an order or a series of degrees in freemasonry may have one or more characteristic colours, the individual degrees within the order or series may use other colours as specific symbols, typical of that degree. For example, although blue is the characteristic colour of speculative craft freemasonry, the typical colour appropriate to the first degree, or Entered Apprentice, is white emblematic of purity, innocence and initiation. Blue is the typical colour of the second degree, or Fellow of the Craft, because it is emblematic of the intellectual knowledge and practical skill of the craftsman and his faithfulness to the fraternity. Lastly, green is the typical colour of the third or sublime degree of a Master Mason, alluding to his discovery of the characteristics of divine truth, his belief in the immortality of the soul and his hope of a resurrection.

An example of several colours being used in combination is to be found among the degrees of the Royal Arch Chapter, for which the characteristic colour is red, from which is derived the expression "Red Masonry" to distinguish it from the craft which is commonly referred to as "Blue Masonry".
Source: http://www.themasonictrowel.com/Articles/Symbolism/lodge_files/red_and_blue_lodges.htm



- Hand signs
- Use of code words
- Use of colors
- Meeting in secret
- Profiling
- Initiations
- Penalty for "snitching"
- Use of symbols

It can be proven that the Illuminati infiltrated Freemasonry. All gangs are is a tool of them to cause chaos so they can implement their new order.

"Check the files". I'm laughing at you kiddo! ;D
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Where's your proof that the FBI had surveillance on him daily upon his release? Did some DVD say that?

Former 2Pac Bodyguard Was Undercover FBI Agent
"In an announcement sure to add fuel to the growing accusations that Hip Hop artists are being watched by the government, Kevin Hackie, a former bodyguard of the late Tupac Shakur recently admitted that he was an undercover FBI agent while he worked for the deceased rapper."
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.5858/title.former-2pac-bodyguard-was-undercover-fbi-agent
 

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Preach.

I just had to get into this thread for a minute cause this is probably the most on point post I have ever read on here.

Enough with the ridiculous conspiracy theories already! I don't know whether to laugh or cry because of the people who actual believe all this far fetched nonsense.

Jay-Z is a Freemason, Lady GaGa uses occult images, Rihanna an Illuminati princess blah blah blah, people need to get their heads examined and start living their lives in the real world.

Jesus H. Christ, unbelievable!






Jay-Z is a Freemason, in the real world. No one said anything about Ga Ga or Rhianna so miss me with that.

Okay this is getting ridiculous now. Y'all are digging wayyyy too deep. If they wanted to frame the murder as gang murder, then why not bullshit some evidence and convict Orlando Anderson? Why did they let him go and leave the door open for all of these ridiculous conspiracy theories?

At the time of Pac's death he wasn't even in a position to "lead" a group of people. He was a gang banging drug addict that even admitted in that Monster interview that "gang bang shit is his priority now." He was a loose cannon nutcase that wasn't even preaching the same shit he was on Thug Life and 2Pacalypse Now. They could have figured out ways to kill him in jail, kill him during his robbery, countless ways.

At the time of his death, Pac was not heralded by anyone as a MLK or Malcolm X figure, sorry to burst everyone's bubble. This all came years after his death. Who cares if Orlando Anderson was listening to him and was a fan of his music. He got the shit beat out of him publicly over a gang beef, and he wouldn't live to see another day if he didn't retaliate, whether he wanted to or not. Southside would have crucified him if he didn't at least attempt retaliation.

If someone like an RJ Bond were to present evidence to the public without it being changed literally 5 times over the years, and not seeking monetary gain, then there's something to look at.

Y'all are stretching WAY too much. Word is bond, I've been told by Crips that Orlando openly admitted he killed Pac. The streets wouldn't lie over this shit, if they thought something was fishy they'd wanna seek that out rather than MOB members under the assumption for 18 years that Pac was murdered by Crips. If they knew that wasn't the case, they'd pursue that.

We know damn well that Suge and everyone else around saw who killed Pac. Street code is real and it's not something they can go to police about. The retaliation murders in Compton the following week will tell you everything you need to know. This is getting comical.
Ok. Maybe you're right. Then again maybe you're not. Ask J Mix about the retaliation murders in Compton first before you decide. I find it funny that you make it sound like an open and shut case yet just as you said, why wasn't Anderson ever arrested for Pac's murder? Maybe he didn't do it. Food for thought.

I'll tell you why. Because there was no evidence, because no witnesses were speaking up, and because I don't think it was exactly high on the list of priorities to be solved. Gang murders don't get solved about half the time. Why? Cause people don't snitch.

Sorry, but JMix is not the end all be all, especially his views on retaliation murders and things of that nature. This is not a diss, but he's someone who decided to interview people close to Pac 18 years after his murder, 90% of them haven't done shit in the music or entertainment industry in the last 15 years and they need an outlet to be relevant again. I've been drenched in this shit since 1996, living right in the middle of it and being close (personal, not Internet) friends with several Death Row employees/members, Mob associates, and rappers (one of them is known, an LA Crip who told me Orlando Anderson personally shared that he murdered Pac with him). These people Jmix is interviewing are saying Pac didn't gang bang cause he was a Christian - he's being spoon fed bullshit by people.

Check the files bro. To anyone from LA or who shares ties with anyone around that movement at the time, this is an open and shut case. But we also live in America where we require justification without a shadow of a doubt to prove someone guilty of a crime, hence Orlando Anderson walked. Word would have gotten back to the Mob that Southside didn't do it if wasn't them - that's just the way shit is with that lifestyle. Word travels fast and the word has always been that Pac died for the set

And also, lmao @ "jay-z is a free mason" as if you know the dudes personal life and can vouch for him. You don't know one thing about the man other than the fact that he has 11 platinum albums

Nah you have me confused, I don't think J Mix has all of the answers. In fact I said something similar in this thread already. I just know that he has gone into detail about the retaliation murders that followed. Nothing else you have stated moves me because there are still many inconsistencies that have to be answered. Such as Orlando Anderson testifying for Tupac. If Suge saw Anderson kill Pac as you say then no matter how bad Suge would have wanted to stay out of jail that never would have happened. Then you have stuff like the security (police + fbi) telling them not to bring their guns to vegas. You say Pac wasn't a threat and that simply isn't true. If he wasn't then why was he under surveillance? The list goes on an on. I'll say it again, I don't hold to one view and until I get more answers I won't. If you think this is all so crazy and whatnot then so what? You can't change my mind. You could be anyone, all I see is text that I may or may not believe.

Miss me with the Jay-z comment I don't have to know him personally to know he's a Freemason. I'm laughing right back at you. I'll leave you with this:
Quote
Red & Blue Lodges
by Don Falconer
Brethren,

Comprehensive answers to the reasons for calling the Craft and the Chapter blue and red lodges respectively are give in my paper entitled "The Symbolism of Colours" - which is Chapter 14 in the revised edition of my book. I will begin posting this paper during the coming week. The following extracts taken from different sections of the chapter will give you a lead, but you will have to read the whole chapter to get the full picture. The symbolism of a wide range of colours from ancient times to the present is discussed at length. In addition to the following, you will read elsewhere in the chapter that red is an ancient symbol of fervency and zeal, which is one of the core teachings of the Royal Arch and its associated degrees.

Blue is the fundamental colour of ancient, free and accepted masonry, or that branch of speculative freemasonry commonly called craft freemasonry and meeting in what are known as blue lodges. Blue is the fundamental colour because, as a symbol of universal friendship and benevolence, it is intended to remind every brother that in his breast these virtues should be equally extensive. The degrees of craft freemasonry are the basis of speculative freemasonry and are a prerequisite for membership of all branches of freemasonry. Capitular freemasonry is an extension of craft freemasonry and relates to the rebuilding of the temple and symbolically to the rebuilding of life. It is typified by the colour red and meets in Royal Arch Chapters, commonly called red lodges.

Although an order or a series of degrees in freemasonry may have one or more characteristic colours, the individual degrees within the order or series may use other colours as specific symbols, typical of that degree. For example, although blue is the characteristic colour of speculative craft freemasonry, the typical colour appropriate to the first degree, or Entered Apprentice, is white emblematic of purity, innocence and initiation. Blue is the typical colour of the second degree, or Fellow of the Craft, because it is emblematic of the intellectual knowledge and practical skill of the craftsman and his faithfulness to the fraternity. Lastly, green is the typical colour of the third or sublime degree of a Master Mason, alluding to his discovery of the characteristics of divine truth, his belief in the immortality of the soul and his hope of a resurrection.

An example of several colours being used in combination is to be found among the degrees of the Royal Arch Chapter, for which the characteristic colour is red, from which is derived the expression "Red Masonry" to distinguish it from the craft which is commonly referred to as "Blue Masonry".
Source: http://www.themasonictrowel.com/Articles/Symbolism/lodge_files/red_and_blue_lodges.htm



- Hand signs
- Use of code words
- Use of colors
- Meeting in secret
- Profiling
- Initiations
- Penalty for "snitching"
- Use of symbols

It can be proven that the Illuminati infiltrated Freemasonry. All gangs are is a tool of them to cause chaos so they can implement their new order.

"Check the files". I'm laughing at you kiddo! ;D

Better watch out, "They"  might put a hit out on you for exposing "them".  ;)

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Where's your proof that the FBI had surveillance on him daily upon his release? Did some DVD say that?

Former 2Pac Bodyguard Was Undercover FBI Agent
"In an announcement sure to add fuel to the growing accusations that Hip Hop artists are being watched by the government, Kevin Hackie, a former bodyguard of the late Tupac Shakur recently admitted that he was an undercover FBI agent while he worked for the deceased rapper."
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.5858/title.former-2pac-bodyguard-was-undercover-fbi-agent

C'mon on now, Hackie is a pathological liar and mentally unstable.

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Free Masons are not what you think you are. Everything you showed me demonstrated nothing. They're a glorified rotary club, drop the act. They buy buildings and rent them out, they're not a secret society you think they are. There's a Masonic Lodge right up the street from me that has their door open during meetings for the public to peek in! Does that sound very "secret society" to you?

Yeah, Jay-Z is an occult, and a mason, and you "know this." Miss me with your bullshit, like showing a structure of Freemasonry means something. I have family members that are masons! It's not what you think they are word is bond. So funny that folks get sucked in. But yeah, keep your belief system intact, I'm sure everyone thinks you're a perfectly normal person. Oh yeah, Pac was a blood and died for the set.
 

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Your responses are becoming shorter and shorter, thanks for that. I knew the Freemasonry info would strike a nerve that's why I posted it.  ;D
 

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Free Masons are not what you think you are. Everything you showed me demonstrated nothing. They're a glorified rotary club, drop the act. They buy buildings and rent them out, they're not a secret society you think they are. There's a Masonic Lodge right up the street from me that has their door open during meetings for the public to peek in! Does that sound very "secret society" to you?

Yeah, Jay-Z is an occult, and a mason, and you "know this." Miss me with your bullshit, like showing a structure of Freemasonry means something. I have family members that are masons! It's not what you think they are word is bond. So funny that folks get sucked in. But yeah, keep your belief system intact, I'm sure everyone thinks you're a perfectly normal person. Oh yeah, Pac was a blood and died for the set.
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pac was a blood and died for the set 100%
 

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pac was a blood and died for the set 100%

stfu you dont know shit
 

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2Pac a blood? lol. Give me a break. The man was an actor and a rapper, reppin' for them vocally at best. Saying 2Pac was a blood, is the same as people claiming today that Lil Wayne is a blood. Entertainers the likes of 2Pac barely had time to breath what with his continuous studio time, alternating between the recording studio and a movie set, or a video shoot, or dropping in and out of court, among other personal pursuits and we're meant to believe the man was a legit gang banger? lol. So when did he get the time in this short 9 month timeframe? What I see is that in this 9 months, he had over 100 songs, around 11 music videos and 2 feature length movies....

But he be in the hood repping for his 'set':


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2Pac a blood? lol. Give me a break. The man was an actor and a rapper, reppin' for them vocally at best. Saying 2Pac was a blood, is the same as people claiming today that Lil Wayne is a blood. Entertainers the likes of 2Pac barely had time to breath what with his continuous studio time, alternating between the recording studio and a movie set, or a video shoot, or dropping in and out of court, among other personal pursuits and we're meant to believe the man was a legit gang banger? lol. So when did he get the time in this short 9 month timeframe? What I see is that in this 9 months, he had over 100 songs, around 11 music videos and 2 feature length movies....

But he be in the hood repping for his 'set':




yeah u got stupid fucks on this thread like @makaveli. and others who still think pac was a blood lol
 

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If you're going to act like Pac didn't start the fight with Orlando Anderson over some gang shit then you're a lost child.
 

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I'm not disputing that, but that still doesn't make him a gang banger. He was a brilliant actor, and he utilized this moment to legitimize an image. What if they just happened to have some rowdy hanger-on friend in the entourage that evening who had a few too many drinks and just happened to charge towards Orlando before anyone else as a favour for having had free drinks and perks all day long? Would that then make that friend a gang banger too?

There's a difference between 'promoting' something and 'being' something. After Vegas, Orlando goes back to a life of crime on the streets as a member of the South Side Crips, 2Pac goes back to the recording studio and movie sets. That's when he isn't hosting music award shows or going to Europe to attend fashion shows of course. Big difference in a "blood", and someone "promoting bloods"
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I'm not disputing that, but that still doesn't make him a gang banger. He was a brilliant actor, and he utilized this moment to legitimize an image. What if they just happened to have some rowdy hanger-on friend in the entourage that evening who had a few too many drinks and just happened to charge towards Orlando before anyone else as a favour for having had free drinks and perks all day long? Would that then make that friend a gang banger too?

There's a difference between 'promoting' something and 'being' something. After Vegas, Orlando goes back to a life of crime on the streets as a member of the South Side Crips, 2Pac goes back to the recording studio and movie sets. That's when he isn't hosting music award shows or going to Europe to attend fashion shows of course. Big difference in a "blood", and someone "promoting bloods"

well said plus that was more suge getting into 2pac head with that blood shit
 

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If you're going to act like Pac didn't start the fight with Orlando Anderson over some gang shit then you're a lost child.

what about tha realest when he was on deathrow was he a blood 2 might as well since he wanted to be pac shit
as much as he stole lyrics and tattoos from pac might as well and making clean versions of pac songs and adding allibs might as well right?
 

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I don't understand how you can say he wasn't a gang banger even after the monster kody phone call where he said he was going to get into gang banging. J Mix said he did an interview with Morpeme and he asked him whether or not Pac was a Blood. Whatever he says I hope it settles the issue once and for all.
 

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If you're going to act like Pac didn't start the fight with Orlando Anderson over some gang shit then you're a lost child.

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I don't understand how you can say he wasn't a gang banger even after the monster kody phone call where he said he was going to get into gang banging. J Mix said he did an interview with Morpeme and he asked him whether or not Pac was a Blood. Whatever he says I hope it settles the issue once and for all.

Mopreme is in the business of protecting Pac's legacy at all costs. He's not going to portray Pac in any negative light in interviews, so don't expect him to say anything other than denial (I'd be shocked if he admitted it). He knows though, there's a reason Mopreme and Syke stopped hanging around the last 6-7 months of Pac's life.
 

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Maybe because doing the Makaveli album, One Nation album (bit odd considering people claiming him to be the opposite??) Gang Related Movie, soundtrack & music video as well as promoting your current release does eat up a lot of time
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