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who's better?

Eminem
10 (41.7%)
Rakim
14 (58.3%)

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Eminem vs Rakim
« on: August 26, 2014, 07:22:10 PM »
who's better?
 

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Re: Eminem vs Rakim
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2014, 12:39:18 AM »
rakim to me
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Re: Eminem vs Rakim
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2014, 01:30:03 AM »
 

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Re: Eminem vs Rakim
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2014, 08:22:49 AM »
I basically grew up on Eminem's first 3 albums and didn't hear much Rakim outside of whatever I saw on a BET Top 25 countdown in my younger days, I'll admit that

but being older now I actually prefer Rakim's delivery/vocals over Em's but let's not act like Eminem isn't cut from the same cloth and his discography isn't up there with if not better than Rakim's
 

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Re: Eminem vs Rakim
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2014, 09:48:50 AM »
Eminent might be a top 5 rapper of all time. But to me Rakim is a top 3 rapper no question. But it's like asking who's better, Bill Russell or Michael Jordan, or Babe Ruth or Willie Mayes, or Otto Graham or Joe Montana. You are not wrong with an answer, but I put Rakim as a better rapper to me.
 

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Re: Eminem vs Rakim
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2014, 01:24:36 PM »
Only NY got 30 rappers better than him..without count West Coast,Midwest and The South..

Rakim,Daddy Kane,Jay-Z,Nas,LL Cool J,Buckshot,A.G,Guru,Treach,AZ,Big L,Jada,O.C, Grand Puba,Eric Sermon,Sadat X,Ghost,Meth,The Chief,Redman ..AND THE LIST GOES!




without count West Coast,Midwest and The South..


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Re: Eminem vs Rakim
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2014, 05:42:35 PM »
Jay-Z, Treach, O.C, Grand Puba,Eric Sermon,Sadat X ..AND THE LIST GOES!

I'd say none of these dudes can see Eminem

Jay-Z has a superior catalog though
 

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Re: Eminem vs Rakim
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2014, 07:12:14 PM »
Eminent might be a top 5 rapper of all time. But to me Rakim is a top 3 rapper no question. But it's like asking who's better, Bill Russell or Michael Jordan, or Babe Ruth or Willie Mayes, or Otto Graham or Joe Montana. You are not wrong with an answer, but I put Rakim as a better rapper to me.

Babe Ruth and Joe Montana easily



Russell or MJ is tough though.
 

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Re: Eminem vs Rakim
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2014, 09:01:10 PM »
Eminent might be a top 5 rapper of all time. But to me Rakim is a top 3 rapper no question. But it's like asking who's better, Bill Russell or Michael Jordan, or Babe Ruth or Willie Mayes, or Otto Graham or Joe Montana. You are not wrong with an answer, but I put Rakim as a better rapper to me.

Babe Ruth and Joe Montana easily



Russell or MJ is tough though.


I had pages arguing with Shallow about that. I said Montana, he said Unitas, and I showed him how Otto Graham was a better old school QB than Unitas, which statistically is true and since not much footage exist from that era then that's all we have. Still, I still say Montana. All I did by introducing Graham was give him another person he put over Montana... LMAO

Ruth, Willie Mayes, Ruth was a better power hitter, Mayes was a better athlete. Plus Mayes played in the post integration, pre-steroid era of baseball, the golden era of professional baseball. But really it's all opinion.

These are arguments we can have for days and days. Which is why I put them up with Rakim vs. Eminem. Ten years ago I would have had a hard time putting anyone up there with Rakim. But now that the 2000's era is over, and you can put those rappers in the all time list, you really have to look at Eminem as a top 5 rapper. Then that adjust where you put Rakim. Especially because I now put Nas in the GOAT spot after his amazing 2000's, which gave him the best catalog in rap history, IMO. Sadly, because 2Pac and Biggie died, they couldn't add to their greatness, so 'Pac will forever be at 3 classics and some very good albums, and Biggie will forever be at 2 classics. Nas  though, he has 4 albums I'd consider classics, Illmatic, Stillmatic, Hip-Hop is Dead and Untitled. Those are true, game changing albums which defined their eras. Hip-Hop is Dead actually named a whole Hip-Hop era because it was what everyone was feeling. Out of Nas's 10 albums, only one of them is a bad one.

So with Nas taking that GOAT spot, then where does that leave Rakim? And when you add Eminem? Eminem is the highest selling rapper in the world, which was 2Pac's claim to being in the top 3 for so long. So if Eminem over took 2Pac, then where does that leave 2Pac? I still put 2Pac over Eminem by way of influence, impact and basically being a demigod to rap fans. But is that legitimate anymore when Eminem has outsold 2Pac?
 

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Re: Eminem vs Rakim
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2014, 12:00:21 AM »
Rakim last dope vers vas in 99 or some shit like that.
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Re: Eminem vs Rakim
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2014, 06:58:30 AM »
Rakim last dope vers vas in 99 or some shit like that.


Actually I'd say 2002. But his first dope verse was 1985 or some shit like that.
 

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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2014, 07:02:09 AM »
It's like comparing Dr. J and Michael Jordan. They had their peak in different era.
 

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Re: Eminem vs Rakim
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2014, 09:31:44 AM »
It's like comparing Dr. J and Michael Jordan. They had their peak in different era.

Exactly.
 

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Re: Eminem vs Rakim
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2014, 10:48:14 PM »
It's like comparing Dr. J and Michael Jordan. They had their peak in different era.

Exactly.

but we all know MJ > dr j
 

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Re: Eminem vs Rakim
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2014, 01:17:16 AM »
Eminem is better but once again, what are we comparing? Rakim is from another era. He was a pioneer. Eminem is still in the mix. Em learned from Rakim. The game has evolved. They can't be compared.

MJ is better than Russell too. But also way different era's and even position players.
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Re: Eminem vs Rakim
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2014, 02:44:56 PM »
rakim is the better lyricist, eminem had better range in his music. overall, a classic em album is more entertaining than a classic rakim album, but like others already said, they're interchangeable, as is the story with most greats.
 

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« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2014, 03:03:38 PM »
rakim is the better lyricist, eminem had better range in his music. overall, a classic em album is more entertaining than a classic rakim album, but like others already said, they're interchangeable, as is the story with most greats.

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Re: Eminem vs Rakim
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2014, 03:09:58 PM »
^here comes will to put the tent in pretentious................. considering you've ranked your share of classic albums a 7/10, i'll go out on a limb and say thanks, but no thanks.


sslp and mmlp are classic albums which could measure up with any rap album ever made.


do me a favor and rank those three albums, will ya?..for shits and giggles
 

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« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2014, 03:18:46 PM »
sslp and mmlp are classic albums which could measure up with any rap album ever made.

But no
 

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« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2014, 03:58:40 PM »
i go with Rakim
em is good but way overrated thanks to white people
as time went by em just got worse and worse
 

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« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2014, 05:24:35 PM »
sslp and mmlp are classic albums which could measure up with any rap album ever made.

But no


you need to stop sounding like u talk with your eyes closed, brodie...


seriously, rank the albums or dont bother replyin
 

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Re: Eminem vs Rakim
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2014, 06:22:44 PM »
rakim is the better lyricist, eminem had better range in his music. overall, a classic em album is more entertaining than a classic rakim album, but like others already said, they're interchangeable, as is the story with most greats.

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« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2014, 11:23:29 PM »
sslp and mmlp are classic albums which could measure up with any rap album ever made.

But no


you need to stop sounding like u talk with your eyes closed, brodie...


seriously, rank the albums or dont bother replyin

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Re: Eminem vs Rakim
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2014, 11:51:58 PM »
Really, I own 18th Letter. I play that album a lot in college. I never got that, "OMG, this dude is amazing" feel from it. Eric B. and Rakim, yes, each album made me feel like Rakim was fucking amazing. But 18th Letter? Really? I mean Rakim was good on it, but the whole feel of the album just didn't blow me out the water or anything like that.
 

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« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2014, 12:52:40 AM »
Really, I own 18th Letter. I play that album a lot in college. I never got that, "OMG, this dude is amazing" feel from it. Eric B. and Rakim, yes, each album made me feel like Rakim was fucking amazing. But 18th Letter? Really? I mean Rakim was good on it, but the whole feel of the album just didn't blow me out the water or anything like that.

Personal taste but for me his penmanship on that album is amazing. Em has it at times like on Stan but his 'my mommas on your lips' type lyrics (most of it) just basic ish. As an MC, song conceps, production etc Ems albums are amazing but content is not there