Author Topic: Is The Earth Actually Flat?  (Read 4515 times)

Desert Lord

Re: Is The Earth Actually Flat?
« Reply #45 on: January 25, 2015, 10:52:29 AM »
ok, you actually right, thought it would be obvious what i mean but i guess with no explanation it's not.

first off: the protocols of the elders of zion was confirmed to be a fake a long time ago...i know he would answer it was falsely confirmed to be a fake because of propaganda of "the jews"
and then all this bullshit with "the jews" wants the white race to be killed. lol. it's just speaks for it self that someone who believes in something like that has a very ignorant, "black & white with no grey in between" world view, despite always complaining to be one of the only people in this world that understand reallity to the fullest. i know how these people argue/think.

it's alway good to pick your information from different sources, because there's lobbyists in every part of the media and nobody should be suprised by this. but some people not only take it way to far. they even do exact the same thing that they accuse the "other" people with: they believe everything they read in there "alternative" information sources without even thinking twice about it.
and it's true that history is written by the winners, so it is good to not believe everything that history books will tell you. but you got to do a lot of self study to find out for yourself which sources you can take for granted. to believe everything that is as much notwithstanding from the popular believe as it gets it's just as stupid as the other way around..if not, even much more stupid!
there are no satanic conspiracy by the world's elite! these few people (the elites) believe in money and power, which will not make them less evil, but don't fool your self and believe in such fairy tales. and although there are some elites that try to take influence on thhe world for their own good (often they are successful with it), they are lobbyists within "the system", they really got power and influence but to believe that these people do all of this for their savior satan is just stupid, sorry!

and all these conspiracys about jews are so old, that it makes me wonder how anyone can still believe in such a bullshit in 2015. there are some jews with a lot of money and power in the world so the conclusion for a few people is that these people must have made a conspiracy against "the white race" or all non-jews. smh

i know my english isn't the best but i hope that everybody can get my point

Lol at the protocols being faked. Yeah must have been someone real bored and of course the sweet little innocent Jew is unfairly victimized once again. Nevermind that they've been kicked out of probably over 100 countries in the last 1500 years. They just have the darndest luck.

So is the Talmud fake too? More anti-Jew propaganda right?

You make many baseless assumptions in your post; many of which i said nothing about.

I can assure you I have read many different points of view on a very wide variety of subjects. I'm probably one of the most open minded people you'll meet, and I'm always open to admitting to be wrong when presented with proof.

It is illegal/an arrestable offense in some Euro countries to say that less than 6 mill Jews died in the Holocaust. Any basic research will show you that it was completely impossible for that amount of people to have been killed. Why is it illegal to QUESTION that? I'll let you answer that for me.

When presented with these facts, Jews like the ADL's Abe Foxman doesn't deny any of it! They simply label you anti-Semitic! Re-read those 2 sentences again.

Do you think Foxman is a Semite? LMAO, homeboy is Eastern European.

i can't tell you nothing about the talmud, but as far as i know it is no fake and i never heard somebody complained it to be fake..

the holocaust is another thing..in germany for example it made sense to make any denying of the holocaust illegal because there was still strong racist and nationalsocialistic tendencies in the country when those laws was made..but even tho i believe the known facts about the holocaust to be true and don't like when people try to deny it, i'm not sure if it is the right way to forbid any questions regarding the numbers of the victims...so in that case i even partial agree with you..
and yes, foxman is eastern european...AND he is jewish. so what? i don't get what you try to tell me..you probably mean that the word term "semitic" implies that he's part of the semetic "race"/tribe?..anti-semitic is just a term given to people that are or allegedly are anti-jewish..a lot of times this term gets abused i agree, but that doesn't prove all your other points in any way.

you said you always open to admitting you are wrong, when you got some proof..so what is proof to you? you can always find reasons why a "proof" is actually being made up, no matter how far-fetched these reasons are..at the end of the day it's all about which sources you decide to seem more believable to you.
 

Desert Lord

Re: Is The Earth Actually Flat?
« Reply #46 on: January 25, 2015, 10:58:59 AM »
After I posted my question to you I did a search and found this website:

Myths, Hypotheses and Facts
Concerning the Origin of Peoples
The True Origin of Roma and Sinti

http://www.imninalu.net/Roma.htm

Another section of the same website has an interesting comparison chart:

Comparison of Romany Law
with Israelite Law and Indo-Aryan Traditions

http://www.imninalu.net/Zakono.htm

.


I have only skimmed through it but the author seems to have done some good research into it.
Maybe this should be a separate thread...

.

some interesting points in the first link, i will read the rest later...thank you sir.
not sure about the second article tho, somethings seem quite a stretch. also my family is catholic so i don't know much about traditional beliefs...actually "gypsies" normally took the religions that was practiced by the majority of the countries that they lived in
 

Jack Trippa 3z company ho

Re: Is The Earth Actually Flat?
« Reply #47 on: January 25, 2015, 11:30:14 AM »

I'm probably one of the most open minded people you'll meet.


Then you shouldn't have to declare it.

I was refuting his claim that I read one thing on the Internet and randomly made it my truth. It was a baseless assumption on his part.
 

Jack Trippa 3z company ho

Re: Is The Earth Actually Flat?
« Reply #48 on: January 25, 2015, 11:43:42 AM »
ok, you actually right, thought it would be obvious what i mean but i guess with no explanation it's not.

first off: the protocols of the elders of zion was confirmed to be a fake a long time ago...i know he would answer it was falsely confirmed to be a fake because of propaganda of "the jews"
and then all this bullshit with "the jews" wants the white race to be killed. lol. it's just speaks for it self that someone who believes in something like that has a very ignorant, "black & white with no grey in between" world view, despite always complaining to be one of the only people in this world that understand reallity to the fullest. i know how these people argue/think.

it's alway good to pick your information from different sources, because there's lobbyists in every part of the media and nobody should be suprised by this. but some people not only take it way to far. they even do exact the same thing that they accuse the "other" people with: they believe everything they read in there "alternative" information sources without even thinking twice about it.
and it's true that history is written by the winners, so it is good to not believe everything that history books will tell you. but you got to do a lot of self study to find out for yourself which sources you can take for granted. to believe everything that is as much notwithstanding from the popular believe as it gets it's just as stupid as the other way around..if not, even much more stupid!
there are no satanic conspiracy by the world's elite! these few people (the elites) believe in money and power, which will not make them less evil, but don't fool your self and believe in such fairy tales. and although there are some elites that try to take influence on thhe world for their own good (often they are successful with it), they are lobbyists within "the system", they really got power and influence but to believe that these people do all of this for their savior satan is just stupid, sorry!

and all these conspiracys about jews are so old, that it makes me wonder how anyone can still believe in such a bullshit in 2015. there are some jews with a lot of money and power in the world so the conclusion for a few people is that these people must have made a conspiracy against "the white race" or all non-jews. smh

i know my english isn't the best but i hope that everybody can get my point

Lol at the protocols being faked. Yeah must have been someone real bored and of course the sweet little innocent Jew is unfairly victimized once again. Nevermind that they've been kicked out of probably over 100 countries in the last 1500 years. They just have the darndest luck.

So is the Talmud fake too? More anti-Jew propaganda right?

You make many baseless assumptions in your post; many of which i said nothing about.

I can assure you I have read many different points of view on a very wide variety of subjects. I'm probably one of the most open minded people you'll meet, and I'm always open to admitting to be wrong when presented with proof.

It is illegal/an arrestable offense in some Euro countries to say that less than 6 mill Jews died in the Holocaust. Any basic research will show you that it was completely impossible for that amount of people to have been killed. Why is it illegal to QUESTION that? I'll let you answer that for me.

When presented with these facts, Jews like the ADL's Abe Foxman doesn't deny any of it! They simply label you anti-Semitic! Re-read those 2 sentences again.

Do you think Foxman is a Semite? LMAO, homeboy is Eastern European.

i can't tell you nothing about the talmud, but as far as i know it is no fake and i never heard somebody complained it to be fake..

the holocaust is another thing..in germany for example it made sense to make any denying of the holocaust illegal because there was still strong racist and nationalsocialistic tendencies in the country when those laws was made..but even tho i believe the known facts about the holocaust to be true and don't like when people try to deny it, i'm not sure if it is the right way to forbid any questions regarding the numbers of the victims...so in that case i even partial agree with you..
and yes, foxman is eastern european...AND he is jewish. so what? i don't get what you try to tell me..you probably mean that the word term "semitic" implies that he's part of the semetic "race"/tribe?..anti-semitic is just a term given to people that are or allegedly are anti-jewish..a lot of times this term gets abused i agree, but that doesn't prove all your other points in any way.

you said you always open to admitting you are wrong, when you got some proof..so what is proof to you? you can always find reasons why a "proof" is actually being made up, no matter how far-fetched these reasons are..at the end of the day it's all about which sources you decide to seem more believable to you.


Well I'd recommend reading some passages from the Talmud, which is a collection of rabbinical teachings dating back from Jesus' time and on throughout the centuries. Maybe after you read that, you will see that the Protocols embody the same doctrine.

Foxman is not Semitic. He's European. That's like me accusing a Chinese man of a crime, but him saying he doesn't have to respond to it because he's african. DOES NOT COMPUTE.

What is proof to me? The proof is in the pudding.
 

Heinz

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Re: Is The Earth Actually Flat?
« Reply #49 on: January 25, 2015, 12:01:40 PM »
Which Talmud are you referring to and recommending reading Jerome?
 

Heinz

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Re: Is The Earth Actually Flat?
« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2015, 01:11:36 AM »


not sure about the second article tho, somethings seem quite a stretch. also my family is catholic so i don't know much about traditional beliefs...actually "gypsies" normally took the religions that was practiced by the majority of the countries that they lived in


According to the author of the website they generally did not adopt the religion of the area they lived.
Anyway it is a fascinating read.

Jekh dilo kerel but dile hai but dile keren dilimata.
 

Sccit

Re: Is The Earth Actually Flat?
« Reply #51 on: January 26, 2015, 04:49:30 AM »
jrome, do u believe the holocaust didnt happen?

Desert Lord

Re: Is The Earth Actually Flat?
« Reply #52 on: January 26, 2015, 12:02:21 PM »


not sure about the second article tho, somethings seem quite a stretch. also my family is catholic so i don't know much about traditional beliefs...actually "gypsies" normally took the religions that was practiced by the majority of the countries that they lived in


According to the author of the website they generally did not adopt the religion of the area they lived.
Anyway it is a fascinating read.

Jekh dilo kerel but dile hai but dile keren dilimata.


the roma part of my family is catholic, and i know a lot of other romas that are catholic...most sinti that i know are muslims or orthodox christians. a few traditional believs and rites gets mixed in the respective religion, maybe you could compare it to mexicans who still practice old aztec rites and mix it with their catholicism...

props for you interest in the romani culture
« Last Edit: January 26, 2015, 12:04:08 PM by Funk Lord »
 

Desert Lord

Re: Is The Earth Actually Flat?
« Reply #53 on: January 26, 2015, 12:21:06 PM »
ok, you actually right, thought it would be obvious what i mean but i guess with no explanation it's not.

first off: the protocols of the elders of zion was confirmed to be a fake a long time ago...i know he would answer it was falsely confirmed to be a fake because of propaganda of "the jews"
and then all this bullshit with "the jews" wants the white race to be killed. lol. it's just speaks for it self that someone who believes in something like that has a very ignorant, "black & white with no grey in between" world view, despite always complaining to be one of the only people in this world that understand reallity to the fullest. i know how these people argue/think.

it's alway good to pick your information from different sources, because there's lobbyists in every part of the media and nobody should be suprised by this. but some people not only take it way to far. they even do exact the same thing that they accuse the "other" people with: they believe everything they read in there "alternative" information sources without even thinking twice about it.
and it's true that history is written by the winners, so it is good to not believe everything that history books will tell you. but you got to do a lot of self study to find out for yourself which sources you can take for granted. to believe everything that is as much notwithstanding from the popular believe as it gets it's just as stupid as the other way around..if not, even much more stupid!
there are no satanic conspiracy by the world's elite! these few people (the elites) believe in money and power, which will not make them less evil, but don't fool your self and believe in such fairy tales. and although there are some elites that try to take influence on thhe world for their own good (often they are successful with it), they are lobbyists within "the system", they really got power and influence but to believe that these people do all of this for their savior satan is just stupid, sorry!

and all these conspiracys about jews are so old, that it makes me wonder how anyone can still believe in such a bullshit in 2015. there are some jews with a lot of money and power in the world so the conclusion for a few people is that these people must have made a conspiracy against "the white race" or all non-jews. smh

i know my english isn't the best but i hope that everybody can get my point

Lol at the protocols being faked. Yeah must have been someone real bored and of course the sweet little innocent Jew is unfairly victimized once again. Nevermind that they've been kicked out of probably over 100 countries in the last 1500 years. They just have the darndest luck.

So is the Talmud fake too? More anti-Jew propaganda right?

You make many baseless assumptions in your post; many of which i said nothing about.

I can assure you I have read many different points of view on a very wide variety of subjects. I'm probably one of the most open minded people you'll meet, and I'm always open to admitting to be wrong when presented with proof.

It is illegal/an arrestable offense in some Euro countries to say that less than 6 mill Jews died in the Holocaust. Any basic research will show you that it was completely impossible for that amount of people to have been killed. Why is it illegal to QUESTION that? I'll let you answer that for me.

When presented with these facts, Jews like the ADL's Abe Foxman doesn't deny any of it! They simply label you anti-Semitic! Re-read those 2 sentences again.

Do you think Foxman is a Semite? LMAO, homeboy is Eastern European.

i can't tell you nothing about the talmud, but as far as i know it is no fake and i never heard somebody complained it to be fake..

the holocaust is another thing..in germany for example it made sense to make any denying of the holocaust illegal because there was still strong racist and nationalsocialistic tendencies in the country when those laws was made..but even tho i believe the known facts about the holocaust to be true and don't like when people try to deny it, i'm not sure if it is the right way to forbid any questions regarding the numbers of the victims...so in that case i even partial agree with you..
and yes, foxman is eastern european...AND he is jewish. so what? i don't get what you try to tell me..you probably mean that the word term "semitic" implies that he's part of the semetic "race"/tribe?..anti-semitic is just a term given to people that are or allegedly are anti-jewish..a lot of times this term gets abused i agree, but that doesn't prove all your other points in any way.

you said you always open to admitting you are wrong, when you got some proof..so what is proof to you? you can always find reasons why a "proof" is actually being made up, no matter how far-fetched these reasons are..at the end of the day it's all about which sources you decide to seem more believable to you.


Well I'd recommend reading some passages from the Talmud, which is a collection of rabbinical teachings dating back from Jesus' time and on throughout the centuries. Maybe after you read that, you will see that the Protocols embody the same doctrine.

Foxman is not Semitic. He's European. That's like me accusing a Chinese man of a crime, but him saying he doesn't have to respond to it because he's african. DOES NOT COMPUTE.

What is proof to me? The proof is in the pudding.


the "protocols" are a rip-off of "the dialog in hell between machiavelli and montesquieu" by maurice joly from 1864...the original text hadn't anything to do with jews, but 40 % of the words of the protocols are the same words as in joly's text...feel free to do your research
 

Sccit

Re: Is The Earth Actually Flat?
« Reply #54 on: January 26, 2015, 12:48:26 PM »
judaism was the first religion...based on that, any1 could be jewish. everything comes down to interpretation. it's when we try too hard to interpret shit that things start goin south. just live based on what you know as fact and quit diggin too deep into shit. most of it is common sense, anyway. balance is key.

Heinz

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Re: Is The Earth Actually Flat?
« Reply #55 on: January 26, 2015, 01:05:48 PM »
most of it is common sense, anyway.

Common sense is an oxymoron.
 

Heinz

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Re: Is The Earth Actually Flat?
« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2015, 10:23:14 AM »
Which Talmud are you referring to and recommending reading Jerome?
 

Fraxxx

Re: Is The Earth Actually Flat?
« Reply #57 on: November 29, 2015, 02:53:09 PM »
If the earth is not a spinning sphere, why does water run out clockwise or counter-clockwise depending on where you are?
i don´t need any medicate shit im 100 normal.
 

Sccit

Re: Is The Earth Actually Flat?
« Reply #58 on: November 29, 2015, 10:06:31 PM »
If the earth is not a spinning sphere, why does water run out clockwise or counter-clockwise depending on where you are?


good question......

jrome?

Fraxxx

Re: Is The Earth Actually Flat?
« Reply #59 on: November 30, 2015, 04:03:33 PM »
If the earth is not a spinning sphere, why does water run out clockwise or counter-clockwise depending on where you are?


good question......

jrome?

you know, some of these examples for why earth must be flat sound at least debatable. then again, I really can't calculate which effect e.g. gravitation has on light or a flying airplane.
so I tried to think of something else that would imo not work as it does if earth was flat.
i don´t need any medicate shit im 100 normal.