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If Love leaves, he'll replace Dwight as the least respected NBA-Star.
Cause I don't care where I belong no more
What we share or not I will ignore
And I won't waste my time fitting in
Cause I don't think contrast is a sin
No, it's not a sin
 

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If Love leaves, he'll replace Dwight as the least respected NBA-Star.

& Kobe will try to recruit him to LA. But for some odd reason that won't count as "hiding behind a franchise player" lol.
 

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If Love leaves, he'll replace Dwight as the least respected NBA-Star.

If there is one thing I have learned from this current generation of NBA stars. It's that you can't underestimate how dumb they are and how little they know how their moves will affect their reputation.
 

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this postseason proves that the wiggins trade may be one of the worst in nba history. i was right again.
 

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this postseason proves that the wiggins trade may be one of the worst in nba history. i was right again.

But wrong on signing LeBron. Sccit, if you get rid of this hate for LeBron, you could be one of the most well respected basketball people online. Like you should start a basketball website and be unbiased about your opinion and it would be legit. But your hate for LeBron clouds your judgement. You have one bad post after one bad post, which in between it all you have a great post about the Wiggins/Love trade. That trade maybe the reason the 'Wolves are in the playoffs in 2 years and a title contender in like 5-7. If Minnesota can keep Wiggins and surround him with talent like Muhammad, Lavine, Towns, add a true PG who isn't always hurt, that trade will look like a steal.
 

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this postseason proves that the wiggins trade may be one of the worst in nba history. i was right again.

But wrong on signing LeBron. Sccit, if you get rid of this hate for LeBron, you could be one of the most well respected basketball people online. Like you should start a basketball website and be unbiased about your opinion and it would be legit. But your hate for LeBron clouds your judgement. You have one bad post after one bad post, which in between it all you have a great post about the Wiggins/Love trade. That trade maybe the reason the 'Wolves are in the playoffs in 2 years and a title contender in like 5-7. If Minnesota can keep Wiggins and surround him with talent like Muhammad, Lavine, Towns, add a true PG who isn't always hurt, that trade will look like a steal.


huh? signing lebron is good, but with signing lebron comes with trading wiggins...so if they dont trade wiggins, no problem. winning the title will negate the terrible trade, but even still, cleveland would be even better right now had they had wiggins instead of love. follow me now.
 

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this postseason proves that the wiggins trade may be one of the worst in nba history. i was right again.

Because of an unforeseen injury? Again, it's way too early to dub it "the worst in NBA history". If Love stays & LeBron wins another with him before they split (if they split), it would be a fine trade.

& Wiggins can't shoot (yet anyway). Defensively, it would be astronomical, but LeBron likes when he can space the floor. Tristian & Mozgov look like sure fire starters for next year, but they look extra special because the Warriors are so small. For this particular matchup Tristian & Mozgov >>> Love & Tristian/Mozgov, but hypothetically next year if they play the Thunder again or even the Pacers in the East, if they get back to form again, it would be better to have Love in there, pulling Ibaka & David West out of the paint, spacing the floor.

Fully healthy next year, the Cavs are more dangerous against 80-85% of teams in the league with Love in the lineup than Wiggins unless he dramatically turns into a superstar over the offseason.

Personally, I think it was a fucking stupid trade because all the Cavaliers had to do was wait until the deadline, make the Wolves sweat & then they could of gave them a #1 pick, Anthony Bennett & at least at the time I thought Dion Waiters & that would of been enough. But they panicked & pulled the trigger.
 

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it's a bad trade...if love leaves, it's guna be the worst of all time
 

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this postseason proves that the wiggins trade may be one of the worst in nba history. i was right again.

Because of an unforeseen injury?

 :laugh:

ETHERED IN ONE QUESTION hahahahahaha
 

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hack stay actin like cham's bottom lmao...stop it bro.


the injury is actually the reason were able to see what a bad trade it is..because cleveland has proven that they dont even need love, and have been playing great wit tristan thompson filling his role. so imagine having wiggins defending the perimeter on top of that. and to think, lebron will be out of the league when wiggins is hitting his prime. guna be historically bad once it pans out.
 

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hack stay actin like cham's bottom lmao...stop it bro.


the injury is actually the reason were able to see what a bad trade it is..because cleveland has proven that they dont even need love, and have been playing great wit tristan thompson filling his role. so imagine having wiggins defending the perimeter on top of that. and to think, lebron will be out of the league when wiggins is hitting his prime. guna be historically bad once it pans out.

It all depends on if they win this year. If LeBron' return is paired with a first year back championship for a city that hasn't one anything since Jim Brown retired then no one in Cleveland will care how good Wiggins ends up or how many rings he wins somewhere else. All they will think about is that year King James came home and took us to the promised land.

It's a simple town. They don't need much. Just be happy for them.
 

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this postseason proves that the wiggins trade may be one of the worst in nba history. i was right again.

But wrong on signing LeBron. Sccit, if you get rid of this hate for LeBron, you could be one of the most well respected basketball people online. Like you should start a basketball website and be unbiased about your opinion and it would be legit. But your hate for LeBron clouds your judgement. You have one bad post after one bad post, which in between it all you have a great post about the Wiggins/Love trade. That trade maybe the reason the 'Wolves are in the playoffs in 2 years and a title contender in like 5-7. If Minnesota can keep Wiggins and surround him with talent like Muhammad, Lavine, Towns, add a true PG who isn't always hurt, that trade will look like a steal.


huh? signing lebron is good, but with signing lebron comes with trading wiggins...so if they dont trade wiggins, no problem. winning the title will negate the terrible trade, but even still, cleveland would be even better right now had they had wiggins instead of love. follow me now.

So you'd rather they don't sign LeBron and keep Wiggins? They'd never win. It's better to get a LeBron, win and hope Love is a complement player. Wiggins will win with Minnesota, LeBron will win with Cleveland. It's a win/win. Like the Gasol for Gasol trade in 2008.
 

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they shoulda signed Lebron and not traded wiggings..simple science
 

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hack stay actin like cham's bottom lmao...stop it bro.


the injury is actually the reason were able to see what a bad trade it is..because cleveland has proven that they dont even need love, and have been playing great wit tristan thompson filling his role. so imagine having wiggins defending the perimeter on top of that. and to think, lebron will be out of the league when wiggins is hitting his prime. guna be historically bad once it pans out.

It all depends on if they win this year. If LeBron' return is paired with a first year back championship for a city that hasn't one anything since Jim Brown retired then no one in Cleveland will care how good Wiggins ends up or how many rings he wins somewhere else. All they will think about is that year King James came home and took us to the promised land.

It's a simple town. They don't need much. Just be happy for them.


if they win the title, that means they woulda won without the love trade. if they don't win, u can say they mighta had a chance with wiggins. lose-lose. 
 

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You're arguing that LeBron and Wiggins on the same team would have been the best move. No one is debating that.

The issue is that it never would have happened because LeBron didn't want that.

Unless you're arguing that Wiggins and the Cavs without LeBron would have won this year
 

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You started this thread by stating that LeBron's return to Cleveland fucked them over worse than him leaving, because it forced Cleveland to trade Wiggins to try and win now. Basically, you said that LeBron should have stayed in Miami and then the Cavs should build around Wiggins, and that would be best. At least that's how everyone took it. If you meant something different, then you need to be more specific.
 

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You started this thread by stating that LeBron's return to Cleveland fucked them over worse than him leaving, because it forced Cleveland to trade Wiggins to try and win now. Basically, you said that LeBron should have stayed in Miami and then the Cavs should build around Wiggins, and that would be best. At least that's how everyone took it. If you meant something different, then you need to be more specific.


if Cleveland doesn't win a title, then yes, it's guna look horrible in the big picture
 

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You're arguing that LeBron and Wiggins on the same team would have been the best move. No one is debating that.

The issue is that it never would have happened because LeBron didn't want that.

Unless you're arguing that Wiggins and the Cavs without LeBron would have won this year
the fact that Lebron wouldn't let that is my whole point
 

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You started this thread by stating that LeBron's return to Cleveland fucked them over worse than him leaving, because it forced Cleveland to trade Wiggins to try and win now. Basically, you said that LeBron should have stayed in Miami and then the Cavs should build around Wiggins, and that would be best. At least that's how everyone took it. If you meant something different, then you need to be more specific.


if Cleveland doesn't win a title, then yes, it's guna look horrible in the big picture

I don't know man. This is the closest Cleveland has ever gone in winning anything for the last 50 years. I think this was the best move they can make to guarantee winning. If LeBron never came back, and they built around Wiggins, you will have fans just waiting for the Decision 2.
 

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You started this thread by stating that LeBron's return to Cleveland fucked them over worse than him leaving, because it forced Cleveland to trade Wiggins to try and win now. Basically, you said that LeBron should have stayed in Miami and then the Cavs should build around Wiggins, and that would be best. At least that's how everyone took it. If you meant something different, then you need to be more specific.


if Cleveland doesn't win a title, then yes, it's guna look horrible in the big picture

I don't know man. This is the closest Cleveland has ever gone in winning anything for the last 50 years. I think this was the best move they can make to guarantee winning. If LeBron never came back, and they built around Wiggins, you will have fans just waiting for the Decision 2.
but if they don't win, it was all for nothing .... and they traded away the future of the NBA for that. they better win, that's all I'm sayin.
 

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You started this thread by stating that LeBron's return to Cleveland fucked them over worse than him leaving, because it forced Cleveland to trade Wiggins to try and win now. Basically, you said that LeBron should have stayed in Miami and then the Cavs should build around Wiggins, and that would be best. At least that's how everyone took it. If you meant something different, then you need to be more specific.


if Cleveland doesn't win a title, then yes, it's guna look horrible in the big picture

I don't know man. This is the closest Cleveland has ever gone in winning anything for the last 50 years. I think this was the best move they can make to guarantee winning. If LeBron never came back, and they built around Wiggins, you will have fans just waiting for the Decision 2.
but if they don't win, it was all for nothing .... and they traded away the future of the NBA for that. they better win, that's all I'm sayin.

What if they win next year? I think that's very possible.

What if Wiggins never wins a title?
 

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if they win next year trade worked out
 

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hack stay actin like cham's bottom lmao...stop it bro.


the injury is actually the reason were able to see what a bad trade it is..because cleveland has proven that they dont even need love, and have been playing great wit tristan thompson filling his role. so imagine having wiggins defending the perimeter on top of that. and to think, lebron will be out of the league when wiggins is hitting his prime. guna be historically bad once it pans out.

Do you have trouble reading?
 

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it's a bad trade, stop that
 

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& Wiggins can't shoot (yet anyway). Defensively, it would be astronomical, but LeBron likes when he can space the floor. Tristian & Mozgov look like sure fire starters for next year, but they look extra special because the Warriors are so small. For this particular matchup Tristian & Mozgov >>> Love & Tristian/Mozgov, but hypothetically next year if they play the Thunder again or even the Pacers in the East, if they get back to form again, it would be better to have Love in there, pulling Ibaka & David West out of the paint, spacing the floor.

Fully healthy next year, the Cavs are more dangerous against 80-85% of teams in the league with Love in the lineup than Wiggins unless he dramatically turns into a superstar over the offseason.