Iggy Azalea "Trying To Kill Hip Hop," ESPN Anchor Robert Flores Says

[Sccit]

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=300469.0

Just remember who called it first.

Do I think she's ruining Hip-Hop, or trying to kill it. Nope, I think she was a failed pop star who can't sing and wanted to be famous, and the powers that be put her with TI for credibility, gave her a Laker boyfriend and as long as she stuck out her ass and shock it, she'd be famous. But she ain't no different than Vanilla Ice, or any other pop rapper. And Drake ain't no different than MC Hammer or any other pop rapper from the past. To me, Drake is the Fresh Prince on auto tunes.

dont get too ahead of yourself....there was talks of this bitch back in 2011, when she dropped that "pussy" track and every1 was talkin bout it. i think i mighta been the one who made the thread too.

[Black Excellence]

Iggy only has one fan of dubcc, that is Closet MAterial

why is my dick in your mouth ?

[BONeZ]

@shallow
tried quotin ya but your obvisiousloy the don, big fish in a small pond.
helenic huh? im spanish and ya dont hear me bitchin bout the berbers bringin the beauty of islam to spain back in the 1400's. at the end of the day, if you got iranians calling themselves aryan ( which is the whole reason they changed the name from persia to iran ) then i think its safe to say that helenic is just another term for pale.
you made a narrow minded statement bout a broad and diverse range of people and im the idiot?
Quote" all black people in the states are racists?" end quote.....
that's bullshit for real.

[Shallow]

@shallow
tried quotin ya but your obvisiousloy the don, big fish in a small pond.
helenic huh? im spanish and ya dont hear me bitchin bout the berbers bringin the beauty of islam to spain back in the 1400's. at the end of the day, if you got iranians calling themselves aryan ( which is the whole reason they changed the name from persia to iran ) then i think its safe to say that helenic is just another term for pale.
you made a narrow minded statement bout a broad and diverse range of people and im the idiot?
Quote" all black people in the states are racists?" end quote.....
that's bullshit for real.

The point is I'm not Germanic in anyway, where as your spanish ancestors, whether mixed with berbers later on or not, were Germanic.

[M Dogg™]

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=300469.0

Just remember who called it first.

Do I think she's ruining Hip-Hop, or trying to kill it. Nope, I think she was a failed pop star who can't sing and wanted to be famous, and the powers that be put her with TI for credibility, gave her a Laker boyfriend and as long as she stuck out her ass and shock it, she'd be famous. But she ain't no different than Vanilla Ice, or any other pop rapper. And Drake ain't no different than MC Hammer or any other pop rapper from the past. To me, Drake is the Fresh Prince on auto tunes.

I knew of her before, but I didn't take her seriously until I saw she was with TI. Then I was like, okay, they are going to push her hard. But just don't remember anyone posting about her before I did.

dont get too ahead of yourself....there was talks of this bitch back in 2011, when she dropped that "pussy" track and every1 was talkin bout it. i think i mighta been the one who made the thread too.

[Sccit]

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=300469.0

Just remember who called it first.

Do I think she's ruining Hip-Hop, or trying to kill it. Nope, I think she was a failed pop star who can't sing and wanted to be famous, and the powers that be put her with TI for credibility, gave her a Laker boyfriend and as long as she stuck out her ass and shock it, she'd be famous. But she ain't no different than Vanilla Ice, or any other pop rapper. And Drake ain't no different than MC Hammer or any other pop rapper from the past. To me, Drake is the Fresh Prince on auto tunes.

I knew of her before, but I didn't take her seriously until I saw she was with TI. Then I was like, okay, they are going to push her hard. But just don't remember anyone posting about her before I did.

summer of 2013 she was already bein pushed by TI for over a year....peeps posted about here way before http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=280754.0

[M Dogg™]

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=300469.0

Just remember who called it first.

Do I think she's ruining Hip-Hop, or trying to kill it. Nope, I think she was a failed pop star who can't sing and wanted to be famous, and the powers that be put her with TI for credibility, gave her a Laker boyfriend and as long as she stuck out her ass and shock it, she'd be famous. But she ain't no different than Vanilla Ice, or any other pop rapper. And Drake ain't no different than MC Hammer or any other pop rapper from the past. To me, Drake is the Fresh Prince on auto tunes.

I knew of her before, but I didn't take her seriously until I saw she was with TI. Then I was like, okay, they are going to push her hard. But just don't remember anyone posting about her before I did.

summer of 2013 she was already bein pushed by TI for over a year....peeps posted about here way before http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=280754.0

Guess I miss that. But it seems like people were not seeing exactly how she'd do. As I said on my thing, I didn't/don't think she was/is that great. But she fits the mold of who record labels push. It was obvious she was the next "IT" girl, I was just calling it and no one else seemed to. She just sucked the right dick and they made her a star. She ain't the first. She wouldn't be the last. That's my main point. Hip-Hop always seems to recover, from Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer, to Puff Daddy, to other wack emcees. At the end of the day, these people fade and talent rises. Hell, Iggy was happy she didn't win a Grammy. She said she has too many haters. She already is breaking. Rappers usually THRIVE off haters. Haters drive most rappers. Iggy doesn't have that in her DNA. She's too nice. She's a really nice girl who wanted to be a pop star and couldn't cut it. she wasn't made for Hip-Hop at all. We'll see if she can grow. But she don't bother me at all.

[Hack Wilson - real]

Iggy only has one fan of dubcc, that is Closet MAterial

[BONeZ]

@shallow
tried quotin ya but your obvisiousloy the don, big fish in a small pond.
helenic huh? im spanish and ya dont hear me bitchin bout the berbers bringin the beauty of islam to spain back in the 1400's. at the end of the day, if you got iranians calling themselves aryan ( which is the whole reason they changed the name from persia to iran ) then i think its safe to say that helenic is just another term for pale.
you made a narrow minded statement bout a broad and diverse range of people and im the idiot?
Quote" all black people in the states are racists?" end quote.....
that's bullshit for real.

The point is I'm not Germanic in anyway, where as your spanish ancestors, whether mixed with berbers later on or not, were Germanic.

AND THE KNEE BONeZ CONNECTED TO THE DICK BONE

geia sas
i think that's how you helenic - greeks say it.
seriously
how far back ya wanna go?
which cave you comin from?
or we could take it back to the beginning..... we all got the out of africa gene..... way before Zeus was telling you the ins and outs of the universe your people, my people, all people were clubbin each other to death for the same pathetic reason we havin a totally off topic debate.
The actual point of this - meaning our little back and forth - is i didn't agree with what you said about black hip hop fans being racists. i put rhymes up on myspace and an american guy and yes he was black and yes he was a hip hop head asked me if i wanted to collaborate. if your right in your assumption then that never would of happend. he would of been like, who is this white bitch and her wack shit, just like im thinkin who the fuck are you. ive worked for greeks and even though i had a bad experience with one of em i dont go round preachin bout "all greeks" are this or that. and even though i know the greek community is very tight knit i know one man dont represent a whole race. thats my beef with you.

[Desert Lord]

lol @ "helenic" aka hel(l)enic aka greek...greek people are white, they europeans! some people take it way too far smh
spanish people are white too unless you mean HIS-spanic, which is another thing the two words get just get confused very often

[Black Excellence]

Iggy only has one fan of dubcc, that is Closet MAterial

why is my dick in your mouth ?

[BONeZ]

lol @ "helenic" aka hel(l)enic aka greek...greek people are white, they europeans! some people take it way too far smh
spanish people are white too unless you mean HIS-spanic, which is another thing the two words get just get confused very often

True That!

the only reason i call myself spanish is cos my cousin told me i wasn't a member of the family and that i was spanish and my nan told me my mum had an affair with a spanish man.
i could be the postmans daughter for all i know. and he was probably white too.....
fuck. i think about the brutality the spanish afflicted the mexicans with and i know i got nothin to brag about......
and no im not HIS-spanic..... i do know the difference.

[Shallow]

lol @ "helenic" aka hel(l)enic aka greek...greek people are white, they europeans! some people take it way too far smh
spanish people are white too unless you mean HIS-spanic, which is another thing the two words get just get confused very often

The only one laughing out loud is Babylon, for fooling you. Most "Greeks" are fooled as well. But it's bullshit. The word Greek isn't any different than the word Nigger. A word that had no business being used to describe a people used by those that conquered those people as a way to denigrate them. There is no word in the language that even sounds like Greek that anyone would use to describe themselves within that people. It only started being widespread when Roman Soldiers used it towards my people aftter they round them up and enslaved them.

Its just a sorry attempt by barberians that overtook us and try and give some meaning to their own lack of ancient history. You take me, an Ethiopian, and Egyptian, a Persian, and an Arab and take our DNA samples, and compare them to to a Spaniard, German, or anyone with roots from Western Europe and you'll see the difference.

My tribe isn't African, or Arab, or Persian, but it is unique to its own. Modern Europe just tries to lay connection to it because they want to seem like they had a hand in shaping the ancient world.

The Ancient Hellenes and Ancient Egyptians worked together and progressed together. Plato and his peers never had bad words for those south of the sea. Both sides were welcome in each other's homes. Even when Alexander took Egypt and left it to Ptolemy, it wasn't out of malice. Egypt was in shambles at the time, and the Ptolemic period helped maintain order and preserve a great civilization. It wasn't until those butchers from Rome got involved that things started to crumble there. Then once Rome fell to the Savages from the North West, all was lost.

Funny how a people that were trying to measure the circumference of the Earth in 400 BC are supposed to be the ancestors of people that thought the Earth was flat in 1400 AD.

Even Jesus knew unique aspects of the Hellenes. he named Simon, Peter. And thus Peter laid the way for Luke, an Ancient Hellene, not a Jew, to help pave the groundwork for the Church.

The point is my Ancestors can be found all over the Middle East and North Africa; you can't say that about any other European people. Thus, we are different.

And anyone that wants to mention what the Spanish did to the Hispanic or what the rest of Western Europe did to the Africans; you can go and read up what "Greece" was up to during that whole mess; I'll tell you; from 1453 nearly half a century before the savages even discovered Africa to 1821, a full generation after the Atlantic Slave Trade was abolished, and just a few decades before all slaves were freed, "Greece" was conquered and enslaved by the Ottoman Empire; Turkish Muslims that had us under their control for nearly 400. None of my ancestors could even own land, much less trade slaves.

And where was rest of "my people" as you claim, as they were fattening their bellies selling slaves and destroying South American Empires? Why wouldn't they come to our aid and fend off the Muslims? Because they too saw us as different than them, just as we see them as different than us.

Just like Greece is the odd man out in the current state of Euro politics, it was the odd man out always.

[Blood$]

something about the fact that an Iggy Azalea thread sparked such deep conversation in here that I'm reading just doesn't sit well with me

fuck rap

[Shallow]

@shallow
tried quotin ya but your obvisiousloy the don, big fish in a small pond.
helenic huh? im spanish and ya dont hear me bitchin bout the berbers bringin the beauty of islam to spain back in the 1400's. at the end of the day, if you got iranians calling themselves aryan ( which is the whole reason they changed the name from persia to iran ) then i think its safe to say that helenic is just another term for pale.
you made a narrow minded statement bout a broad and diverse range of people and im the idiot?
Quote" all black people in the states are racists?" end quote.....
that's bullshit for real.

The point is I'm not Germanic in anyway, where as your spanish ancestors, whether mixed with berbers later on or not, were Germanic.

AND THE KNEE BONeZ CONNECTED TO THE DICK BONE

geia sas
i think that's how you helenic - greeks say it.
seriously
how far back ya wanna go?
which cave you comin from?
or we could take it back to the beginning..... we all got the out of africa gene..... way before Zeus was telling you the ins and outs of the universe your people, my people, all people were clubbin each other to death for the same pathetic reason we havin a totally off topic debate.
The actual point of this - meaning our little back and forth - is i didn't agree with what you said about black hip hop fans being racists. i put rhymes up on myspace and an american guy and yes he was black and yes he was a hip hop head asked me if i wanted to collaborate. if your right in your assumption then that never would of happend. he would of been like, who is this white bitch and her wack shit, just like im thinkin who the fuck are you. ive worked for greeks and even though i had a bad experience with one of em i dont go round preachin bout "all greeks" are this or that. and even though i know the greek community is very tight knit i know one man dont represent a whole race. thats my beef with you.

You're arguing with me like I'm defending Iggy, or that I said all black american hip hop fans are racist towards all whites. Of which I said neither. Iggy is shit and not all black hip hop heads are racist towards her, TI being one.

The point I initially made is that the majority black hip hop fans in the US are racist towards white frauds, and accepting of black frauds. And I used Drake as an example. A great white rapper who cares about the music and respects it and doers it well, like Evidence of Dilated or Eminem will be accepted by black hip hop fans in the US, but that was never a point I was trying to dismiss.

You may be a great rapper with a great regard and love for the music and because of that are accepted. But if you wrote two terrible rap songs that are disgraceful to every thing hip hop is about and released one yourself and gave the other to a black rapper and both of you became huge in the pop masses from those songs, you would be labeled a fraud while the black guy would get a pass.