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The Master List of Hip-Hop Classic Albums
« on: March 28, 2015, 09:38:20 PM »
This right here is the best list of Hip-Hop classic albums. As ranked by me, M Dogg. I left no stone unturned and no list spared. I've been waiting a long time to do this and I decided now, with the Kendrick album being debated if it's classic or not to do this. Now everyone is debating classic status. While I've got you covered. And trust me, I kept out half of the late 80's that I wanted to put in because I was being really selective. Just think how the late 80's would be if I put in everything I wanted. But trust me, if I questioned it just a bit, it's not in.

Kurtis Blow - Kurtis Blow - 1980


Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five - The Message -1982


Wild Style Original Soundtrack - 1983


Run-DMC - Run DMC - 1984


LL Cool J - Radio - 1985


Run-DMC - Raising Hell - 1986


Boogie Down Production - Criminal Minded - 1987


Eric B. & Rakim - Paid in Full - 1987


Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick - 1988


EPMD - Strictly Business -1988


Big Daddy Kane - Long Live the Kane - 1988


Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back - 1988


N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton - 1988


Eazy-E - Eazy Does It - 1988


Ultramagnetic MC's - Critical Beatdown -1988


Boogie Down Productions - By All Means Necessary - 1988


De La Soul - 3 Feel High and Rising - 1989


D.O.C. - No One Can Do It Better - 1989


Too $Hort - Life is Too $hort - 1989


Geto Boys - Grip It! On That Other Level - 1989


Jungle Brothers - Done by the Forces of Nature - 1989


Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet -1990


A Tribe Called Quest - People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm -1990


Ice Cube - AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted - 1990


DJ Quik - Quik Is the Name - 1991


A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory - 1991


Ice Cube - Death Certificate 1991


Redman - Whut? Thee Album - 1992


The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde - 1992


Pete Rock & CL Smooth - Mecca and the Soul Brother - 1992


Dr. Dre - The Chronic - 1992


Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) - 1993


Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle - 1993


Nas - Illmatic - 1994


Scarface - The Diary - 1994


The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die - 1994


Warren G - Regulate... the G-Funk Era


OutKast - Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik - 1994


Chef Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... - 1995


Mobb Deep - The Infamous - 1995


2Pac - Me Against the World - 1995


2Pac - All Eyez On Me - 1996


Makaveli - The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory - 1996


Fugees - The Score - 1996


The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death - 1997


Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill - 1998


OutKast - Aquemini - 1998


The Roots - Things Fall Apart - 1999


Dr. Dre - 2001 - 1999


Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP - 2000


Jay-Z - The Blueprint - 2001


Nas - Stillmatic - 2001


Eminem - The Eminem Show - 2002


Kanye West - College Dropout - 2004


Common - Be - 2005


Clipse - Hell Hath No Fury - 2006


Lil' Wayne - The Carter III - 2008 (I threw up a little bit in my mouth, but it set the tone for most modern hip-hop)


Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy - 2010


Kendrick Lamar - Good Kid, m.A.A.d. City - 2012


Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly - 2015
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Re: The Master List of Hip-Hop Classic Albums
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2015, 12:19:08 AM »
An ok list till 94, ater that...
Well only your favs.
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« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2015, 01:50:30 AM »
Loool at Will  ;D

Mdogg must reread the source and just copy #100 classic albums

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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2015, 03:47:59 AM »
I don't understand the logic behind putting C3 on there. Just because it "set the tone for modern hip hop" doesn't mean that should be seen as a positive. If anything, it should be condemned.
 

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Re: The Master List of Hip-Hop Classic Albums
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2015, 06:27:37 AM »
An ok list till 94, ater that...
Well only your favs.

Yeah. Predictable list and a lot on there are just average
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Re: The Master List of Hip-Hop Classic Albums
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2015, 06:44:55 AM »
An ok list till 94, ater that...
Well only your favs.

Yeah. Predictable list and a lot on there are just average



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Re: The Master List of Hip-Hop Classic Albums
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2015, 09:29:36 AM »
I don't understand the logic behind putting C3 on there. Just because it "set the tone for modern hip hop" doesn't mean that should be seen as a positive. If anything, it should be condemned.

It's why it's the only one that I left a note, because I personally thought it was alright, and heard better. But I have a friend who is a hip hop junkie, like is into more than me and that's saying something. He has followed hip hop since the early 80's, and as he told me, to not think the Carter III is a classic is to be a hater. These kids love it and every song is a radio song that everyone loves. It's when he had to remind me hip hop is party music. So as a pure party album, in a party music genre, that everyone parties too, then it is a classic.


If it looks like I ripped off the Source, it's because I started with the Source and XXL, looked at what both called classic and if both mags said it was a classic, that's were I started the list. So Kanye Dark Twisted, Mobb Deep, All Eyez On Me. Those all were classics by both standards so I started the list from there. Then I looked at album reviews from multiple mags to see who got high reviews. Some albums, like the first Jungle Brothers, got average reviews but the Source called it a classic. I listened to it myself (well I listened to that album may times over the years, but I did review it again) and created my own opinion. First Jungle Brothers album out, the better second Jungle Brothers album in. I also was extra critical of the 80's and early 90's, because I would have 100 albums and half of the year 1988 in there. So some albums I really really loved got cut.

Post-1994, I went a lot more on how those albums were taken in and if they influenced hip hop. Stillmatic really went after American foreign policy the post-9/11 era which influenced artist like Immortal Technique and others. Also if the album is still talked about today. Lauryn Hill's album is studied in college courses, the Fugees sold over 18 million albums and it was highly politically conscience, The Roots had their best album and it influenced live bands in production, Eminem was at his lyrical peak, The Dropout changed production in hip hop for the better adding soul to the music and it had many conscience rappers featured. I can go down the list of each album. But it had to be ranked high in reviews and then influence hip hop afterwards. Then made the final cut, and the only question mark I had was Carter III, all the others I felt great saying, that's a classic. I also left some off post 1994, like Kurupt, Eazy E, and the Game. But they didn't have as much influence as they were influenced by others.
 

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Re: The Master List of Hip-Hop Classic Albums
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2015, 08:52:27 PM »
I own 37 from that list and I can agree with some of them being classics others just solid works

Carter II > Carter III though and I don't own a copy of either one lol  8)
 

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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2015, 08:56:19 PM »
I don't understand the logic behind putting C3 on there. Just because it "set the tone for modern hip hop" doesn't mean that should be seen as a positive. If anything, it should be condemned.

It's why it's the only one that I left a note, because I personally thought it was alright, and heard better. But I have a friend who is a hip hop junkie, like is into more than me and that's saying something. He has followed hip hop since the early 80's, and as he told me, to not think the Carter III is a classic is to be a hater. These kids love it and every song is a radio song that everyone loves. It's when he had to remind me hip hop is party music. So as a pure party album, in a party music genre, that everyone parties too, then it is a classic.



Just because it was incredibly popular and a bunch of "kids" love it shouldn't make it a classic. What the hell do kids know anyways (got me feeling like an old man). I was a fan of Wayne up until this album, and while there were a few nice cuts it was really off-putting to most people that had followed his career, and brought along the pop crowds that just want to listen to whatever is playing on the top 50. Is that really a hip hop classic? Just the premise that it set the scene for the BS we hear today is pretty off-putting to me, but to each his own.
 

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Re: The Master List of Hip-Hop Classic Albums
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2015, 04:45:28 AM »
I don't understand the logic behind putting C3 on there. Just because it "set the tone for modern hip hop" doesn't mean that should be seen as a positive. If anything, it should be condemned.

It's why it's the only one that I left a note, because I personally thought it was alright, and heard better. But I have a friend who is a hip hop junkie, like is into more than me and that's saying something. He has followed hip hop since the early 80's, and as he told me, to not think the Carter III is a classic is to be a hater. These kids love it and every song is a radio song that everyone loves. It's when he had to remind me hip hop is party music. So as a pure party album, in a party music genre, that everyone parties too, then it is a classic.



Just because it was incredibly popular and a bunch of "kids" love it shouldn't make it a classic. What the hell do kids know anyways (got me feeling like an old man). I was a fan of Wayne up until this album, and while there were a few nice cuts it was really off-putting to most people that had followed his career, and brought along the pop crowds that just want to listen to whatever is playing on the top 50. Is that really a hip hop classic? Just the premise that it set the scene for the BS we hear today is pretty off-putting to me, but to each his own.


And some felt that way about Doggystyle and the BS westcoast rap in the 90's. I remember Doggystyle being described as Jr. High rap by some older dudes.
 

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Re: The Master List of Hip-Hop Classic Albums
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2015, 07:51:26 AM »
I own 37 from that list and I can agree with some of them being classics others just solid works

Carter II > Carter III though and I don't own a copy of either one lol  8)

Which ones would you say are solid works?
 

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Re: The Master List of Hip-Hop Classic Albums
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2015, 07:57:10 AM »
I own 37 from that list and I can agree with some of them being classics others just solid works

Carter II > Carter III though and I don't own a copy of either one lol  8)

Which ones would you say are solid works?

Ghostface - Ironman, I love this album and I'd probably say it's my second or third favorite from Ghost that I'd rate 4.5/5
Eminem - The Eminem Show, same as Ghost this is probably my third favorite release from Em that I would give a 4/5
Lil Wayne - The Carter 3, 4/5 quality album after going about the test of time since its release... a few awful tracks brought the album down
Kanye West - MBDTF, I did love this album but maybe it was the fact that 75% of it was already leaked prior to release making it feel short to me but musically this album transitions almost flawlessly and there are some classic songs on it

I'm with you on Kendrick's new joint being classic but at the same time that may be still too early to call lol
 

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Re: The Master List of Hip-Hop Classic Albums
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2015, 08:13:25 AM »
I own 37 from that list and I can agree with some of them being classics others just solid works

Carter II > Carter III though and I don't own a copy of either one lol  8)

Which ones would you say are solid works?

Ghostface - Ironman, I love this album and I'd probably say it's my second or third favorite from Ghost that I'd rate 4.5/5
Eminem - The Eminem Show, same as Ghost this is probably my third favorite release from Em that I would give a 4/5
Lil Wayne - The Carter 3, 4/5 quality album after going about the test of time since its release... a few awful tracks brought the album down
Kanye West - MBDTF, I did love this album but maybe it was the fact that 75% of it was already leaked prior to release making it feel short to me but musically this album transitions almost flawlessly and there are some classic songs on it

I'm with you on Kendrick's new joint being classic but at the same time that may be still too early to call lol

I actually questioned all of those myself. Ironman was the closest to being left off, aside from Wayne. The Eminem Show to me was his best album, so that one was not going to get left off for nothing. I almost left off Marshall Mathers LP, but NOT Eminem Show. Carter III has been talked about in depth. I personally am not a fan, but these kids love it as much as I loved Doggystyle, which some of the older folks then called Jr. High rap. I think Carter III gets classic status by most of hip-hop in a few years. And the only reason, and I mean ONLY reason My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy gets classic status is because both the Source and XXL called it classic, and my original goal was to only list the ones they both called classic. Then I realized they left out all pre-1985 classics, which are very important, and then from there XXL basically left out the 80's, and the Source left out the 2000's.

But yeah, I still question Ironman, but it's so good. Like I liked it more than Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... I might have to rehear it just to verify it. It might take listening with more critical ears.
 

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Re: The Master List of Hip-Hop Classic Albums
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2015, 08:27:28 AM »
I own 37 from that list and I can agree with some of them being classics others just solid works

Carter II > Carter III though and I don't own a copy of either one lol  8)

Which ones would you say are solid works?

Ghostface - Ironman, I love this album and I'd probably say it's my second or third favorite from Ghost that I'd rate 4.5/5
Eminem - The Eminem Show, same as Ghost this is probably my third favorite release from Em that I would give a 4/5
Lil Wayne - The Carter 3, 4/5 quality album after going about the test of time since its release... a few awful tracks brought the album down
Kanye West - MBDTF, I did love this album but maybe it was the fact that 75% of it was already leaked prior to release making it feel short to me but musically this album transitions almost flawlessly and there are some classic songs on it

I'm with you on Kendrick's new joint being classic but at the same time that may be still too early to call lol

I actually questioned all of those myself. Ironman was the closest to being left off, aside from Wayne. The Eminem Show to me was his best album, so that one was not going to get left off for nothing. I almost left off Marshall Mathers LP, but NOT Eminem Show. Carter III has been talked about in depth. I personally am not a fan, but these kids love it as much as I loved Doggystyle, which some of the older folks then called Jr. High rap. I think Carter III gets classic status by most of hip-hop in a few years. And the only reason, and I mean ONLY reason My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy gets classic status is because both the Source and XXL called it classic, and my original goal was to only list the ones they both called classic. Then I realized they left out all pre-1985 classics, which are very important, and then from there XXL basically left out the 80's, and the Source left out the 2000's.

But yeah, I still question Ironman, but it's so good. Like I liked it more than Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... I might have to rehear it just to verify it. It might take listening with more critical ears.

I see you... I was also going to say that I'd put Lord Willin' over HHNF but I love Clipse and everything they do, so whichever one people call classic from them I can't say anything lol
 

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Re: The Master List of Hip-Hop Classic Albums
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2015, 08:58:39 AM »
I own 37 from that list and I can agree with some of them being classics others just solid works

Carter II > Carter III though and I don't own a copy of either one lol  8)

Which ones would you say are solid works?

Ghostface - Ironman, I love this album and I'd probably say it's my second or third favorite from Ghost that I'd rate 4.5/5
Eminem - The Eminem Show, same as Ghost this is probably my third favorite release from Em that I would give a 4/5
Lil Wayne - The Carter 3, 4/5 quality album after going about the test of time since its release... a few awful tracks brought the album down
Kanye West - MBDTF, I did love this album but maybe it was the fact that 75% of it was already leaked prior to release making it feel short to me but musically this album transitions almost flawlessly and there are some classic songs on it

I'm with you on Kendrick's new joint being classic but at the same time that may be still too early to call lol

I actually questioned all of those myself. Ironman was the closest to being left off, aside from Wayne. The Eminem Show to me was his best album, so that one was not going to get left off for nothing. I almost left off Marshall Mathers LP, but NOT Eminem Show. Carter III has been talked about in depth. I personally am not a fan, but these kids love it as much as I loved Doggystyle, which some of the older folks then called Jr. High rap. I think Carter III gets classic status by most of hip-hop in a few years. And the only reason, and I mean ONLY reason My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy gets classic status is because both the Source and XXL called it classic, and my original goal was to only list the ones they both called classic. Then I realized they left out all pre-1985 classics, which are very important, and then from there XXL basically left out the 80's, and the Source left out the 2000's.

But yeah, I still question Ironman, but it's so good. Like I liked it more than Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... I might have to rehear it just to verify it. It might take listening with more critical ears.

I see you... I was also going to say that I'd put Lord Willin' over HHNF but I love Clipse and everything they do, so whichever one people call classic from them I can't say anything lol

I think the only reason HHNF gets rated better than Lord Willin' is because it has less features. Both are great, but LW has more features. But both are amazing and the Clipse are very underrated, even by me. At the time I was so dismissive, but now I really can appreciate their style. It might have been Pharell's finest work. 
 

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Re: The Master List of Hip-Hop Classic Albums
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2015, 10:35:11 AM »
I own 37 from that list and I can agree with some of them being classics others just solid works

Carter II > Carter III though and I don't own a copy of either one lol  8)

Which ones would you say are solid works?

Ghostface - Ironman, I love this album and I'd probably say it's my second or third favorite from Ghost that I'd rate 4.5/5
Eminem - The Eminem Show, same as Ghost this is probably my third favorite release from Em that I would give a 4/5
Lil Wayne - The Carter 3, 4/5 quality album after going about the test of time since its release... a few awful tracks brought the album down
Kanye West - MBDTF, I did love this album but maybe it was the fact that 75% of it was already leaked prior to release making it feel short to me but musically this album transitions almost flawlessly and there are some classic songs on it

I'm with you on Kendrick's new joint being classic but at the same time that may be still too early to call lol

I actually questioned all of those myself. Ironman was the closest to being left off, aside from Wayne. The Eminem Show to me was his best album, so that one was not going to get left off for nothing. I almost left off Marshall Mathers LP, but NOT Eminem Show. Carter III has been talked about in depth. I personally am not a fan, but these kids love it as much as I loved Doggystyle, which some of the older folks then called Jr. High rap. I think Carter III gets classic status by most of hip-hop in a few years. And the only reason, and I mean ONLY reason My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy gets classic status is because both the Source and XXL called it classic, and my original goal was to only list the ones they both called classic. Then I realized they left out all pre-1985 classics, which are very important, and then from there XXL basically left out the 80's, and the Source left out the 2000's.

But yeah, I still question Ironman, but it's so good. Like I liked it more than Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... I might have to rehear it just to verify it. It might take listening with more critical ears.

I see you... I was also going to say that I'd put Lord Willin' over HHNF but I love Clipse and everything they do, so whichever one people call classic from them I can't say anything lol

I think the only reason HHNF gets rated better than Lord Willin' is because it has less features. Both are great, but LW has more features. But both are amazing and the Clipse are very underrated, even by me. At the time I was so dismissive, but now I really can appreciate their style. It might have been Pharell's finest work. 

agreed on the Pharrell part for sure, those beats were pure cane on wax and I even remember Pusha T saying before it dropped that album had Neptunes' best production ever
 

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Re: The Master List of Hip-Hop Classic Albums
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2015, 10:42:18 AM »

Mdogg must reread the source and just copy #100 classic albums

lmao  yep



no Esham albums?  Chino XL's first album isn't on there?  No MF Doom?


horrible list after the mid 90's - Carter 3?  lmao  Kanye?? hahaha
 

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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2015, 11:14:12 AM »
mdogg argues just to argue....sometimes he doesnt even genuinely believe what he's saying, he just wants to "win" a debate
 

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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2015, 11:15:14 AM »
lol he doesnt even have 1 bay album up there



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Re: The Master List of Hip-Hop Classic Albums
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2015, 11:20:17 AM »

Mdogg must reread the source and just copy #100 classic albums

lmao  yep



no Esham albums?  Chino XL's first album isn't on there?  No MF Doom?


horrible list after the mid 90's - Carter 3?  lmao  Kanye?? hahaha

Yeah, I was going to put some underground Indy stuff up there, especially because I love Immortal Technique Revolutionary Vol. 2. But I kept it at mainstream stuff, because it was hard enough keeping the list at a lower number.

lol he doesnt even have 1 bay album up there



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2Pac. After that list one other album.
 

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Re: The Master List of Hip-Hop Classic Albums
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2015, 01:22:34 PM »
lol 2pac is LA, but ill give u that...


what do u mean list one other? norcal has wayyyy too many classics to list.


this thread is garbage, but u entitled to your opinion tho
 

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Re: The Master List of Hip-Hop Classic Albums
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2015, 02:01:14 PM »
lol 2pac is LA, but ill give u that...


what do u mean list one other? norcal has wayyyy too many classics to list.


this thread is garbage, but u entitled to your opinion tho

For reals, I tried to think of some Bay area ones, but like I said earlier, I didn't add indy records. And most of the Bay is indy. I can do an indy list, as that would interest me more.. That shit would be too long. I was really more looking for a reason to exclude more than include. Even Ghostfast is on the chopping block.
 

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Re: The Master List of Hip-Hop Classic Albums
« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2015, 02:47:01 PM »
lol 2pac is LA, but ill give u that...


what do u mean list one other? norcal has wayyyy too many classics to list.


this thread is garbage, but u entitled to your opinion tho

For reals, I tried to think of some Bay area ones, but like I said earlier, I didn't add indy records. And most of the Bay is indy. I can do an indy list, as that would interest me more.. That shit would be too long. I was really more looking for a reason to exclude more than include. Even Ghostfast is on the chopping block.

thats actually a solid excuse...i can dig it


but bay was gettin a lot of major label recognition when west coast rap took off in the early 90s...spice 1, celly cel, luniz, e40, etc all dropped on majors
 

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Re: The Master List of Hip-Hop Classic Albums
« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2015, 03:40:47 PM »
this is random but it's something that came to mind, wasn't Geto Boys' Grip It! On That Other Level album given 5 mics too? I wouldn't call that their best album though but they have a few classics by that logic
 

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Re: The Master List of Hip-Hop Classic Albums
« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2015, 07:57:12 PM »
lol 2pac is LA, but ill give u that...


what do u mean list one other? norcal has wayyyy too many classics to list.


this thread is garbage, but u entitled to your opinion tho

For reals, I tried to think of some Bay area ones, but like I said earlier, I didn't add indy records. And most of the Bay is indy. I can do an indy list, as that would interest me more.. That shit would be too long. I was really more looking for a reason to exclude more than include. Even Ghostfast is on the chopping block.

thats actually a solid excuse...i can dig it


but bay was gettin a lot of major label recognition when west coast rap took off in the early 90s...spice 1, celly cel, luniz, e40, etc all dropped on majors

I may re look into it. I noticed one mistake thanks to this next post....

this is random but it's something that came to mind, wasn't Geto Boys' Grip It! On That Other Level album given 5 mics too? I wouldn't call that their best album though but they have a few classics by that logic

I actually meant to put Grip It!... Fuck... now I have to change it. Not to knock We Can't Be Stopped, but it was a B+ album, but I accidently put that up instead of Grip It! Part of the problem of posting this shit late at night.