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Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2015, 06:45:18 PM »
And yes, it is true that the smarter people amoungst the ISIS guys are consciously targeting that phenomenon.
The pattern is:
1.) Muslim terrorists do fucked up shit.

2.) Whites in the west get mad about it.
3.) Muslims in the west get mad about those white for getting mad at it.
4.) Whites get mad at those Muslims for being like that.
5.) Muslims get even angrier and join ISIS or at least become more radical.
6.) Civil war tendencies grow.


Do you really think THAT is the starting point of the pattern? With all respect, but that seems like a pretty narrow and comfortable perspective. I mean, you remember the time before Muslim equaled terrorist in the public eye, no?
And I can't stand Islam, even less than Judaism or Christianity. Still, how could you start that pattern with "Muslim terrorists do fucked up shit" without ANY context?
I'm not sure if you're as impartial as you think.
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Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2015, 07:38:54 PM »
And yes, it is true that the smarter people amoungst the ISIS guys are consciously targeting that phenomenon.
The pattern is:
1.) Muslim terrorists do fucked up shit.

2.) Whites in the west get mad about it.
3.) Muslims in the west get mad about those white for getting mad at it.
4.) Whites get mad at those Muslims for being like that.
5.) Muslims get even angrier and join ISIS or at least become more radical.
6.) Civil war tendencies grow.

Do you really think THAT is the starting point of the pattern? With all respect, but that seems like a pretty narrow and comfortable perspective. I mean, you remember the time before Muslim equaled terrorist in the public eye, no?
And I can't stand Islam, even less than Judaism or Christianity. Still, how could you start that pattern with "Muslim terrorists do fucked up shit" without ANY context?
I'm not sure if you're as impartial as you think.
Are you implying that these acts of Jihad (let's call it what it really is) are some how justifiable because of wrongs that may have been done to them?
 

Fraxxx

Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2015, 02:50:44 AM »
And yes, it is true that the smarter people amoungst the ISIS guys are consciously targeting that phenomenon.
The pattern is:
1.) Muslim terrorists do fucked up shit.

2.) Whites in the west get mad about it.
3.) Muslims in the west get mad about those white for getting mad at it.
4.) Whites get mad at those Muslims for being like that.
5.) Muslims get even angrier and join ISIS or at least become more radical.
6.) Civil war tendencies grow.

Do you really think THAT is the starting point of the pattern? With all respect, but that seems like a pretty narrow and comfortable perspective. I mean, you remember the time before Muslim equaled terrorist in the public eye, no?
And I can't stand Islam, even less than Judaism or Christianity. Still, how could you start that pattern with "Muslim terrorists do fucked up shit" without ANY context?
I'm not sure if you're as impartial as you think.
Are you implying that these acts of Jihad (let's call it what it really is) are some how justifiable because of wrongs that may have been done to them?

No, not justifiable, explainable.
Muslim youths born in western countries join ISIS not because Muslim terrorists do fucked up shit. Civil war tendencies aren't growing because Muslim terrorists do fucked up shit.
Like I said, to me that's a narrow and comfortable perspective.
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Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2015, 10:29:59 AM »
And yes, it is true that the smarter people amoungst the ISIS guys are consciously targeting that phenomenon.
The pattern is:
1.) Muslim terrorists do fucked up shit.

2.) Whites in the west get mad about it.
3.) Muslims in the west get mad about those white for getting mad at it.
4.) Whites get mad at those Muslims for being like that.
5.) Muslims get even angrier and join ISIS or at least become more radical.
6.) Civil war tendencies grow.

Do you really think THAT is the starting point of the pattern? With all respect, but that seems like a pretty narrow and comfortable perspective. I mean, you remember the time before Muslim equaled terrorist in the public eye, no?
And I can't stand Islam, even less than Judaism or Christianity. Still, how could you start that pattern with "Muslim terrorists do fucked up shit" without ANY context?
I'm not sure if you're as impartial as you think.
Are you implying that these acts of Jihad (let's call it what it really is) are some how justifiable because of wrongs that may have been done to them?

No, not justifiable, explainable.
Muslim youths born in western countries join ISIS not because Muslim terrorists do fucked up shit. Civil war tendencies aren't growing because Muslim terrorists do fucked up shit.
Like I said, to me that's a narrow and comfortable perspective.

I was referring to the elaborate ISIS strategy. They sacrifice valuable suicide killers in order to create hate within the various kinds of people living in the west (whites, muslims, white leftists, white right-wingers etc.).

They know that a lot of Muslims live in countries like France, Belgium, England, the Netherlands or Germany.

As nuts as it sounds, but an adult girl I know is not allowed to travel during these Christmas holidays, because her parents literally fear for her safety. ISIS wins.
Cause I don't care where I belong no more
What we share or not I will ignore
And I won't waste my time fitting in
Cause I don't think contrast is a sin
No, it's not a sin
 

bouli77

Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2015, 10:50:09 AM »
I am not from France, but I have heard that some kids in French schools didn't want to sympathize with Charlie Hebdo and basically got told by their parents that those disrespectful journalists got what they deserved. How old are your schoolkids?

That happened, I didn't witness it in the middle high school (age 11-15) where I teach at but I've heard stories from people who did witness it firsthand. It's not surprising though because most Muslims resented Charlie Hebdo's caricatures. I mean Charlie Hebdo is a very satirical magazine with dark humor which can be hard to take. So a lot of people, while not condoning the killings (obviously), didn't want to honor them. They constantly made fun of tragedies which are hard to make fun of (refugees, war, etc.). A lot of people who sympathized with their deaths didn't even know who they were before (especially middle schoolers who wouldn't know about such magazines except for those coming from a more "literate" and politicized background) and once they became aware of their type of humor were kinda shocked. And knowing their kind of humour, as I said, it's not surprising. Some paid homage to the terrorists on social media though which is something different and some got some serious jail time for that but I'm pretty sure most who didn't support Charlie Hebdo were shocked by the death of innocent civilians. I don't want to justify the terrorists' doings, quite the contrary actually. But they know that by doing that type of humor, you're pissing a lot of people off and you're bound to be exposed to fanatics, especially in this day and age.

After Charlie Hebdo, many Muslims I know insisted that it's a conspiracy and that the killer were not even Muslim (not in the sense that killing isn't real Islam, but in the sense that those were Mossad or CIA agents or whatever French equivalent you have) and stuff like that.
Just something very non-aggressive like claiming that such attacks might happen again would make them uneasy and opposed to me.

Conspiracy theorists are at an all time high out here, in the wake of all the talks about the illuminati, the Israel-Palestine conflict, etc. While some of these theories are interesting and have a basis which makes sense, people don't pay attention, don't do proper research and are to lazy to have some real intellectual discipline. Instead they follow blindly the first thing which merely resembles a credible conspiracy and are convinced almost instantly that it's a conspiracy theory for sure. Again I'm not saying it's not some sort of false flag operation, but the elements I was presented with were not convincing enough. Some things are disturbing, though (how he killed the cop with no blood, the passport found in the car, the Hyper Casher grocery store sold a month before, just like Bataclan...) I'd say it's more of a middle / lower class things than a Muslim trend. People who believe in conspiracy theorists are usually people not fucking with the country's politics, disillusioned (for a reason) and frustrated (again, for a reason).



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After Bataclan, Muslims I know tried to cover up their awkward uneasiness by making stupid jokes like "I'm gonna come in with a Kalashnikov and kill you guys, or better yet get a belt and blow this place up like they did in Paris".
Now, the Muslims I know are vastly inferior in intellect compared to you or me, and I do not intend to imply that smart muslims would act that way, just saying that people can be stupid in general and that is what simply actually happened (I am not making anything up here.)

people are stupid, i see it everyday through pupils, parents, co-workers, friends and acquaintances, on social media or not. they'll be manipulable in one way or the other, they'll be the most vindicative and politically active in talk or through their posts (also the most learned geopoliticians), trying to lecture you on how you're a sheep but yet they'll be the first to broadcast information and facts which they haven't taken time to try to understand, or verify.

They aren't aggressive, though. But it is very blatant that they are deeply uneasy after such attacks and feel offended by anyone mentioning it in a negative light. Why is that? If some white Christian/Atheist German (I am technically an Atheist, but born Roman Catholic) would do some kind of fucked up shit, I wouldn't be offended in the slightest. Like after those NSU murders, people could diss them all they wanted in front of me and I didn't mind, because it is a fact that those niggas were dicks. Yet somehow, if ISIS does some fucked up shit, one has to watch his mouth amoungst regular, non-radical Muslims. Isn't that odd?

I think that's because unfortunately in our societies Muslim are already prejudiced and stereotyped. I see it everyday through my Muslim friends and co-workers. They are already associated with terrorists because they're more easily recognizable than Catholics and because some wear beards so people are suspicious.They know in that case they'll even be more harassed and people, especially authorities will have even more license to harass them.


And yes, it is true that the smarter people amoungst the ISIS guys are consciously targeting that phenomenon.
The pattern is:
1.) Muslim terrorists do fucked up shit.
2.) Whites in the west get mad about it.
3.) Muslims in the west get mad about those white for getting mad at it.
4.) Whites get mad at those Muslims for being like that.
5.) Muslims get even angrier and join ISIS or at least become more radical.
6.) Civil war tendencies grow.


well it's just not smarter people, it's their ideological leaders, it's actually a strategy which have been theorized and which is still at play here. the other day i've read an ISIS magazine destined for the european youth where they explicitly targeted the concept of school, democracy and secularism.

5.) I think they become more radical, not out of anger towards the "whites" reactions to terrorism, but  because of the lack of opportunities for some of them and the lack of stability and guidance in their life. First they're petty criminal, or poor schmucks and they don't have the right people next to them to school them and guide them, second they are lured by people who tell them there's a better life for them outside jerking off and doing nothing, saying that this society is evil and that everybody who abides by it also is, and then it's like a renaissance for them who feel they have some sort of divine and just cause to defend.
 

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Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2015, 12:14:53 PM »
And yes, it is true that the smarter people amoungst the ISIS guys are consciously targeting that phenomenon.
The pattern is:
1.) Muslim terrorists do fucked up shit.

2.) Whites in the west get mad about it.
3.) Muslims in the west get mad about those white for getting mad at it.
4.) Whites get mad at those Muslims for being like that.
5.) Muslims get even angrier and join ISIS or at least become more radical.
6.) Civil war tendencies grow.

Do you really think THAT is the starting point of the pattern? With all respect, but that seems like a pretty narrow and comfortable perspective. I mean, you remember the time before Muslim equaled terrorist in the public eye, no?
And I can't stand Islam, even less than Judaism or Christianity. Still, how could you start that pattern with "Muslim terrorists do fucked up shit" without ANY context?
I'm not sure if you're as impartial as you think.
Are you implying that these acts of Jihad (let's call it what it really is) are some how justifiable because of wrongs that may have been done to them?

No, not justifiable, explainable.
Muslim youths born in western countries join ISIS not because Muslim terrorists do fucked up shit. Civil war tendencies aren't growing because Muslim terrorists do fucked up shit.
Like I said, to me that's a narrow and comfortable perspective.

Nah you're wrong. They join because the quran tells them to war with non believers. That's what I'm trying to get you and others to see. This all goes back to the religion that they practice. Everything else we have been told is just the spin that's been added to the story.
 

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Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2015, 11:44:31 AM »
Here's the source for Hitler being Catholic: http://spirituallysmart.blogspot.com/2010/05/nazi-vatican-info.html
Here is the source for Albert Pike, Freemasonry and the KKK: http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/albertpikeandkkk.html

I'm still waiting for VDHEART to come and prove what he's talking about since I'm a kid who has never read the bible. I'll give him one more day then I'll come in and disprove this notion that the bible and/or Christianity advocates violence. Once I do that I hope we can get back on track with the subject at hand. No more excuses! Either you want the truth or you don't. If you want to stay in the matrix then be my guest.
 

Fraxxx

Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2015, 06:27:14 PM »
And yes, it is true that the smarter people amoungst the ISIS guys are consciously targeting that phenomenon.
The pattern is:
1.) Muslim terrorists do fucked up shit.

2.) Whites in the west get mad about it.
3.) Muslims in the west get mad about those white for getting mad at it.
4.) Whites get mad at those Muslims for being like that.
5.) Muslims get even angrier and join ISIS or at least become more radical.
6.) Civil war tendencies grow.

Do you really think THAT is the starting point of the pattern? With all respect, but that seems like a pretty narrow and comfortable perspective. I mean, you remember the time before Muslim equaled terrorist in the public eye, no?
And I can't stand Islam, even less than Judaism or Christianity. Still, how could you start that pattern with "Muslim terrorists do fucked up shit" without ANY context?
I'm not sure if you're as impartial as you think.
Are you implying that these acts of Jihad (let's call it what it really is) are some how justifiable because of wrongs that may have been done to them?

No, not justifiable, explainable.
Muslim youths born in western countries join ISIS not because Muslim terrorists do fucked up shit. Civil war tendencies aren't growing because Muslim terrorists do fucked up shit.
Like I said, to me that's a narrow and comfortable perspective.

I was referring to the elaborate ISIS strategy. They sacrifice valuable suicide killers in order to create hate within the various kinds of people living in the west (whites, muslims, white leftists, white right-wingers etc.).

They know that a lot of Muslims live in countries like France, Belgium, England, the Netherlands or Germany.

As nuts as it sounds, but an adult girl I know is not allowed to travel during these Christmas holidays, because her parents literally fear for her safety. ISIS wins.

Oh, I see. Yeah , you're right about that. Creating tension between regular citizens of different faiths, that's propably part of their strategy and unfortunately it works.
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Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2015, 09:17:48 PM »
Sorry to break it to you kid, but the bible is one of the most violent books there is quoting all kinds of violence.

Samuel 15:3,8
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys


I won't waste my time quoting any more, but it promotes rape and murder IF you read it. Like any complex religious book it can be exploited and used as an excuse.

Hitler was an orthodox Christian, and believed to be behind the genocide of millions. The KKK were Christians. That Norway shooter that shot and killed a lot of children a few years back was a Christian. Are we going to jump to brandishing Christianity as a religion of mass murderous psychopaths? Of course not. It appears you have fallen for the propaganda hook, line and sinker.

There are over 1 billion Muslims in the world. If it really did promote murder, death and terror, we'd all be dead
Matthew 26:50
And Jesus said unto him, Friend, wherefore art thou come? Then came they, and laid hands on Jesus, and took him.

Matthew 26:51
And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear.

 Matthew 26:52
Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
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Matthew 5:38
Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:

Matthew 5:39
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

Matthew  5:40
And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.

Matthew  5:41
And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

Matthew 5:42
Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

Matthew 5:43
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

Matthew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Matthew 5:45
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
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Ephesians 4:26
Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
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Luke 10:3
Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves.
 

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Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2015, 01:04:40 AM »
Too many different versions of these books
 

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Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2015, 10:41:57 AM »
Too many different versions of these books
The text for the kjv that I quoted dates back to the first century.
https://carm.org/manuscript-evidence
 

V2DHeart

Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2016, 10:24:29 AM »
^Well nigga, ain't no Christians running around ripping women's stomachs open in the name of the Lord now, do they? Muslims do.

Remove religion for a minute. Christianity doesn't commit murder, Islam doesn't commit murder - 'MEN' commit murder. Men rip women's stomach's open. No sane rational minded human being would even consider it, including a MAJORITY of the 1 billion + Muslims on earth.

Keep letting that Western propaganda keep you in perpetual state of fear :)
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Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2016, 10:35:50 AM »
Here's the source for Hitler being Catholic: http://spirituallysmart.blogspot.com/2010/05/nazi-vatican-info.html
Here is the source for Albert Pike, Freemasonry and the KKK: http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/albertpikeandkkk.html

I'm still waiting for VDHEART to come and prove what he's talking about since I'm a kid who has never read the bible. I'll give him one more day then I'll come in and disprove this notion that the bible and/or Christianity advocates violence. Once I do that I hope we can get back on track with the subject at hand. No more excuses! Either you want the truth or you don't. If you want to stay in the matrix then be my guest.

Interesting. Never read a bible, yet are going to disprove my notion that Christianity advocates violence?  ;D

OK, well I've already put up quotes directly out of the bible. Perhaps murdering innocent kids and rape is not violent to you? Scroll back to page 1 and you'll see them. The bible is a very bloody book and does advocate violence, yet I know a lot of nice Christians. Point is, that religion is not a cause, the person is the cause.
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Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2016, 12:20:40 PM »
^Well nigga, ain't no Christians running around ripping women's stomachs open in the name of the Lord now, do they? Muslims do.

Remove religion for a minute. Christianity doesn't commit murder, Islam doesn't commit murder - 'MEN' commit murder. Men rip women's stomach's open. No sane rational minded human being would even consider it, including a MAJORITY of the 1 billion + Muslims on earth.

Keep letting that Western propaganda keep you in perpetual state of fear :)

Leftists need to stop with those claims that "fear" is irrational and stupid.

Just a few days ago hundreds of Muslims executed organized sexual harrassment, insult, assault and robbery in German cities. It's a fact. The Muslim threat in the west is very real and there is absolutely nothing irrational, stupid or racist about being wary of it.

You might argue that those guys probably aren't firm believers in Islam. But religion is never just religion. There are cultural aspects as well.
Cause I don't care where I belong no more
What we share or not I will ignore
And I won't waste my time fitting in
Cause I don't think contrast is a sin
No, it's not a sin
 

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Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2016, 03:05:22 PM »
^Well nigga, ain't no Christians running around ripping women's stomachs open in the name of the Lord now, do they? Muslims do.

Remove religion for a minute. Christianity doesn't commit murder, Islam doesn't commit murder - 'MEN' commit murder. Men rip women's stomach's open. No sane rational minded human being would even consider it, including a MAJORITY of the 1 billion + Muslims on earth.

Keep letting that Western propaganda keep you in perpetual state of fear :)
Not true at all. If you practice Islam the way it teaches then murder is apart of it because the quran tells you to do so. THAT'S WHY IT'S HAPPENING AROUND THE WORLD. Not because of oppression as someone stated above. Who isn't oppressed? We all are but we aren't all blowing ourselves up and doing other bs like that. If that were the case then we as American's would be doing the same thing the Muslim world is doing. If it were about oppression then why aren't they solely attacking the ones doing the oppression? Why are innocent people getting kilt? That theory don't add up and shame on anyone trying to justify these actions with that excuse.

Here's the source for Hitler being Catholic: http://spirituallysmart.blogspot.com/2010/05/nazi-vatican-info.html
Here is the source for Albert Pike, Freemasonry and the KKK: http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/albertpikeandkkk.html

I'm still waiting for VDHEART to come and prove what he's talking about since I'm a kid who has never read the bible. I'll give him one more day then I'll come in and disprove this notion that the bible and/or Christianity advocates violence. Once I do that I hope we can get back on track with the subject at hand. No more excuses! Either you want the truth or you don't. If you want to stay in the matrix then be my guest.

Interesting. Never read a bible, yet are going to disprove my notion that Christianity advocates violence?  ;D

OK, well I've already put up quotes directly out of the bible. Perhaps murdering innocent kids and rape is not violent to you? Scroll back to page 1 and you'll see them. The bible is a very bloody book and does advocate violence, yet I know a lot of nice Christians. Point is, that religion is not a cause, the person is the cause.
The bible doesn't advocate violence when you read the entire thing and put it in its proper context. The text you quoted where for a specific people during a specifies period of time. It wasn't something for the entire world to follow. Unless you were descendants of a certain man and lived in a certain region during a certain time frame then it had nothing to do with you. The New Testament is set out for all mankind to follow because those same people rejected God so God came with a new message and brought it to everyone. Not only don't you know what the bibles teaches, you haven't even watched the documentary and you don't know what the quran teaches. Yet you want to sit up here an debate this. Do us all a favor and get off of your high horse thinking that your unsubstantiated opinions hold more weight than documented facts. The same way you didn't know what you were talking about with Hitler, the kkk and 2pac's 50 niggaz tattoo meaning, you don't know what you are talking about what now!
 

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Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2016, 07:14:25 AM »
The bible doesn't advocate violence when you read the entire thing and put it in its proper context. The text you quoted where for a specific people during a specifies period of time. It wasn't something for the entire world to follow. Unless you were descendants of a certain man and lived in a certain region during a certain time frame then it had nothing to do with you. The New Testament is set out for all mankind to follow because those same people rejected God so God came with a new message and brought it to everyone. Not only don't you know what the bibles teaches, you haven't even watched the documentary and you don't know what the quran teaches. Yet you want to sit up here an debate this. Do us all a favor and get off of your high horse thinking that your unsubstantiated opinions hold more weight than documented facts. The same way you didn't know what you were talking about with Hitler, the kkk and 2pac's 50 niggaz tattoo meaning, you don't know what you are talking about what now!

How do you know? You have stated that you're a kid who has never even read the bible? I would thoroughly recommend you go away and read it first before trying to lecture other people about what the bible teaches. It's like a swimming teacher trying to teach people how to swim, while never having stepped foot into a pool.

With any of the grown ups (25+ and above) who have read parts of several religious books (like myself) you will realise that every religious text can have so many different meanings. Every main religious book advocates horrific violence and death. Everyone main religious book advocates peace. But with text that is so ambiguous, it can be misinterpreted to sound like anything.

Like I've said before, with the bible having some pretty vile and obscene passages, I know many Christians who are very nice human beings, and who do not condone the killing of little babies and children (Samuel 15:3,8
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys
) This is what fear propagandists do, they pick a few quotes from the Quran, and claim that the entire religion promoted death, terrorism and suffering. Only a paranoid and ignorant individual would allow such nonsense to fill them with fear. As mentioned, there are over 1 billion Muslims on earth. If that were true, we'd all be dead right now. Like Christians, I know many Muslims, most I was brought up with / around, and they, like other compassionate human being are just as disgusted with 'people' exploiting their religious as an excuse to commit pain in the world.

You should visit an Middle Eastern country and see for yourself what the opinion is of the West.  

Also - Regarding 2Pac's song quote (I never mentioned anything about a tattoo?) from 'Breathin' with the line of "Woke up with 50 enemies plotting my death" is a reference to the United States of America plotting his death - morally, politically, through the media etc. 50 being the 50 states. The Alien and Sedition Act is within 50 USC Sections, allowing the president to imprison and deport noncitizens who were deemed dangerous to the government. This Act is still in existence today. Of course, to someone with a closed mind, they just assume it's 50 random men, but there is a purpose to why he said '50'. There are a lot of Anti-government metaphors in his work, especially towards the last year of his life, most of which I'm sure have went way over your head if you missed that one.  

I'll leave a question for you. Which terrorist organisation is responsible for the most civilian deaths in the last 15 years? - civilians being innocent humans, including women and young children
a) Al Qaeda, b) ISIS, c) US & UK  

You will find your answer as to why a lot of countries over there see us as terrorists
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Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2016, 02:04:30 PM »
^Hey jackass, why did you ignore my post?
Cause I don't care where I belong no more
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Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #42 on: January 21, 2016, 01:44:24 PM »
How do you know? You have stated that you're a kid who has never even read the bible? I would thoroughly recommend you go away and read it first before trying to lecture other people about what the bible teaches. It's like a swimming teacher trying to teach people how to swim, while never having stepped foot into a pool.

With any of the grown ups (25+ and above) who have read parts of several religious books (like myself) you will realise that every religious text can have so many different meanings. Every main religious book advocates horrific violence and death. Everyone main religious book advocates peace. But with text that is so ambiguous, it can be misinterpreted to sound like anything.

Like I've said before, with the bible having some pretty vile and obscene passages, I know many Christians who are very nice human beings, and who do not condone the killing of little babies and children (Samuel 15:3,8
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys
) This is what fear propagandists do, they pick a few quotes from the Quran, and claim that the entire religion promoted death, terrorism and suffering. Only a paranoid and ignorant individual would allow such nonsense to fill them with fear. As mentioned, there are over 1 billion Muslims on earth. If that were true, we'd all be dead right now. Like Christians, I know many Muslims, most I was brought up with / around, and they, like other compassionate human being are just as disgusted with 'people' exploiting their religious as an excuse to commit pain in the world.

You should visit an Middle Eastern country and see for yourself what the opinion is of the West.  

Also - Regarding 2Pac's song quote (I never mentioned anything about a tattoo?) from 'Breathin' with the line of "Woke up with 50 enemies plotting my death" is a reference to the United States of America plotting his death - morally, politically, through the media etc. 50 being the 50 states. The Alien and Sedition Act is within 50 USC Sections, allowing the president to imprison and deport noncitizens who were deemed dangerous to the government. This Act is still in existence today. Of course, to someone with a closed mind, they just assume it's 50 random men, but there is a purpose to why he said '50'. There are a lot of Anti-government metaphors in his work, especially towards the last year of his life, most of which I'm sure have went way over your head if you missed that one.  

I'll leave a question for you. Which terrorist organisation is responsible for the most civilian deaths in the last 15 years? - civilians being innocent humans, including women and young children
a) Al Qaeda, b) ISIS, c) US & UK  

You will find your answer as to why a lot of countries over there see us as terrorists
You want to discuss everything but the video. It's obvious you haven't watched it yet. Your are getting quite annoying.
I have read the bible I was going by what you said when I posted that, it went over your head. You keep trying to apply the context that the bible was written in to the context of the Quran. It's not the same thing. As I said before, the Old Testament wasn't a Revelation for the world to follow like your are saying. So today in our times we can't go and fight the Amalekites. lol As far as I know they don't exist anymore. That verse was obviously solely for the children of Israel for that time they were at war with them. Just as I said before.

Fact of the matter is the Quran does teach violence. It's really that simple. The verses are documented in the documentary, all you have to do is freeze the video and read them when they are shown. All of this talk you are doing only makes you look silly to those who have seen the video or who already knows the truth.
 

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Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2016, 04:57:32 AM »
How do you know? You have stated that you're a kid who has never even read the bible? I would thoroughly recommend you go away and read it first before trying to lecture other people about what the bible teaches. It's like a swimming teacher trying to teach people how to swim, while never having stepped foot into a pool.

With any of the grown ups (25+ and above) who have read parts of several religious books (like myself) you will realise that every religious text can have so many different meanings. Every main religious book advocates horrific violence and death. Everyone main religious book advocates peace. But with text that is so ambiguous, it can be misinterpreted to sound like anything.

Like I've said before, with the bible having some pretty vile and obscene passages, I know many Christians who are very nice human beings, and who do not condone the killing of little babies and children (Samuel 15:3,8
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys
) This is what fear propagandists do, they pick a few quotes from the Quran, and claim that the entire religion promoted death, terrorism and suffering. Only a paranoid and ignorant individual would allow such nonsense to fill them with fear. As mentioned, there are over 1 billion Muslims on earth. If that were true, we'd all be dead right now. Like Christians, I know many Muslims, most I was brought up with / around, and they, like other compassionate human being are just as disgusted with 'people' exploiting their religious as an excuse to commit pain in the world.

You should visit an Middle Eastern country and see for yourself what the opinion is of the West.  

Also - Regarding 2Pac's song quote (I never mentioned anything about a tattoo?) from 'Breathin' with the line of "Woke up with 50 enemies plotting my death" is a reference to the United States of America plotting his death - morally, politically, through the media etc. 50 being the 50 states. The Alien and Sedition Act is within 50 USC Sections, allowing the president to imprison and deport noncitizens who were deemed dangerous to the government. This Act is still in existence today. Of course, to someone with a closed mind, they just assume it's 50 random men, but there is a purpose to why he said '50'. There are a lot of Anti-government metaphors in his work, especially towards the last year of his life, most of which I'm sure have went way over your head if you missed that one.  

I'll leave a question for you. Which terrorist organisation is responsible for the most civilian deaths in the last 15 years? - civilians being innocent humans, including women and young children
a) Al Qaeda, b) ISIS, c) US & UK  

You will find your answer as to why a lot of countries over there see us as terrorists
You want to discuss everything but the video. It's obvious you haven't watched it yet. Your are getting quite annoying.
I have read the bible I was going by what you said when I posted that, it went over your head. You keep trying to apply the context that the bible was written in to the context of the Quran. It's not the same thing. As I said before, the Old Testament wasn't a Revelation for the world to follow like your are saying. So today in our times we can't go and fight the Amalekites. lol As far as I know they don't exist anymore. That verse was obviously solely for the children of Israel for that time they were at war with them. Just as I said before.

Fact of the matter is the Quran does teach violence. It's really that simple. The verses are documented in the documentary, all you have to do is freeze the video and read them when they are shown. All of this talk you are doing only makes you look silly to those who have seen the video or who already knows the truth.

The Quran teaches violence, to over 1.6 BILLION people, yet I fail to see all the dead bodies around me? I suppose unless you're on of "those" who believe in unsubstantiated rubbish, with no evidence to back it up, it's nothing more than propaganda that you've fallen for. You can dress it up any way you like to maintain this programmed belief, but the reality is, is that it's a documentary that has selectively handpicked sections of it to paint a bleak picture of the entire Muslim religion that the MAJORITY of Muslims do not share. For if they did, half of the world population would have been killed off or violently attacked, with daily incidents resulting in mass injuries.

All religious books, including the bible can be selectively handpicked to promote violence. Until you use your own mind, look at both sides, actually look at the peaceful messages within the Quran - Though I highly doubt these were ever mentioned in your little documentary, since it detracts away from its purpose and agenda - read some of the Quran, and more importantly look around you at the evidence and sheer numbers of Muslims around the globe and apply common sense. When I was a young teenager, I too would watch a one-sided documentary and believe it, however age, life experience and a deeper insight has led me to keep an open mind and to ensure that I watch / read with a sceptical approach and research both sides before coming to a conclusion, but it's a conclusion, which is far more accurate because bias exists on all sides, but this documentary, I and many others can see right through it. When you get a little older you may be able to too
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Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2016, 10:47:46 PM »
How do you know? You have stated that you're a kid who has never even read the bible? I would thoroughly recommend you go away and read it first before trying to lecture other people about what the bible teaches. It's like a swimming teacher trying to teach people how to swim, while never having stepped foot into a pool.

With any of the grown ups (25+ and above) who have read parts of several religious books (like myself) you will realise that every religious text can have so many different meanings. Every main religious book advocates horrific violence and death. Everyone main religious book advocates peace. But with text that is so ambiguous, it can be misinterpreted to sound like anything.

Like I've said before, with the bible having some pretty vile and obscene passages, I know many Christians who are very nice human beings, and who do not condone the killing of little babies and children (Samuel 15:3,8
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys
) This is what fear propagandists do, they pick a few quotes from the Quran, and claim that the entire religion promoted death, terrorism and suffering. Only a paranoid and ignorant individual would allow such nonsense to fill them with fear. As mentioned, there are over 1 billion Muslims on earth. If that were true, we'd all be dead right now. Like Christians, I know many Muslims, most I was brought up with / around, and they, like other compassionate human being are just as disgusted with 'people' exploiting their religious as an excuse to commit pain in the world.

You should visit an Middle Eastern country and see for yourself what the opinion is of the West.  

Also - Regarding 2Pac's song quote (I never mentioned anything about a tattoo?) from 'Breathin' with the line of "Woke up with 50 enemies plotting my death" is a reference to the United States of America plotting his death - morally, politically, through the media etc. 50 being the 50 states. The Alien and Sedition Act is within 50 USC Sections, allowing the president to imprison and deport noncitizens who were deemed dangerous to the government. This Act is still in existence today. Of course, to someone with a closed mind, they just assume it's 50 random men, but there is a purpose to why he said '50'. There are a lot of Anti-government metaphors in his work, especially towards the last year of his life, most of which I'm sure have went way over your head if you missed that one.  

I'll leave a question for you. Which terrorist organisation is responsible for the most civilian deaths in the last 15 years? - civilians being innocent humans, including women and young children
a) Al Qaeda, b) ISIS, c) US & UK  

You will find your answer as to why a lot of countries over there see us as terrorists
You want to discuss everything but the video. It's obvious you haven't watched it yet. Your are getting quite annoying.
I have read the bible I was going by what you said when I posted that, it went over your head. You keep trying to apply the context that the bible was written in to the context of the Quran. It's not the same thing. As I said before, the Old Testament wasn't a Revelation for the world to follow like your are saying. So today in our times we can't go and fight the Amalekites. lol As far as I know they don't exist anymore. That verse was obviously solely for the children of Israel for that time they were at war with them. Just as I said before.

Fact of the matter is the Quran does teach violence. It's really that simple. The verses are documented in the documentary, all you have to do is freeze the video and read them when they are shown. All of this talk you are doing only makes you look silly to those who have seen the video or who already knows the truth.

The Quran teaches violence, to over 1.6 BILLION people, yet I fail to see all the dead bodies around me? I suppose unless you're on of "those" who believe in unsubstantiated rubbish, with no evidence to back it up, it's nothing more than propaganda that you've fallen for. You can dress it up any way you like to maintain this programmed belief, but the reality is, is that it's a documentary that has selectively handpicked sections of it to paint a bleak picture of the entire Muslim religion that the MAJORITY of Muslims do not share. For if they did, half of the world population would have been killed off or violently attacked, with daily incidents resulting in mass injuries.

All religious books, including the bible can be selectively handpicked to promote violence. Until you use your own mind, look at both sides, actually look at the peaceful messages within the Quran - Though I highly doubt these were ever mentioned in your little documentary, since it detracts away from its purpose and agenda - read some of the Quran, and more importantly look around you at the evidence and sheer numbers of Muslims around the globe and apply common sense. When I was a young teenager, I too would watch a one-sided documentary and believe it, however age, life experience and a deeper insight has led me to keep an open mind and to ensure that I watch / read with a sceptical approach and research both sides before coming to a conclusion, but it's a conclusion, which is far more accurate because bias exists on all sides, but this documentary, I and many others can see right through it. When you get a little older you may be able to too


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Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #45 on: January 26, 2016, 07:59:19 PM »
How do you know? You have stated that you're a kid who has never even read the bible? I would thoroughly recommend you go away and read it first before trying to lecture other people about what the bible teaches. It's like a swimming teacher trying to teach people how to swim, while never having stepped foot into a pool.

With any of the grown ups (25+ and above) who have read parts of several religious books (like myself) you will realise that every religious text can have so many different meanings. Every main religious book advocates horrific violence and death. Everyone main religious book advocates peace. But with text that is so ambiguous, it can be misinterpreted to sound like anything.

Like I've said before, with the bible having some pretty vile and obscene passages, I know many Christians who are very nice human beings, and who do not condone the killing of little babies and children (Samuel 15:3,8
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys
) This is what fear propagandists do, they pick a few quotes from the Quran, and claim that the entire religion promoted death, terrorism and suffering. Only a paranoid and ignorant individual would allow such nonsense to fill them with fear. As mentioned, there are over 1 billion Muslims on earth. If that were true, we'd all be dead right now. Like Christians, I know many Muslims, most I was brought up with / around, and they, like other compassionate human being are just as disgusted with 'people' exploiting their religious as an excuse to commit pain in the world.

You should visit an Middle Eastern country and see for yourself what the opinion is of the West.  

Also - Regarding 2Pac's song quote (I never mentioned anything about a tattoo?) from 'Breathin' with the line of "Woke up with 50 enemies plotting my death" is a reference to the United States of America plotting his death - morally, politically, through the media etc. 50 being the 50 states. The Alien and Sedition Act is within 50 USC Sections, allowing the president to imprison and deport noncitizens who were deemed dangerous to the government. This Act is still in existence today. Of course, to someone with a closed mind, they just assume it's 50 random men, but there is a purpose to why he said '50'. There are a lot of Anti-government metaphors in his work, especially towards the last year of his life, most of which I'm sure have went way over your head if you missed that one.  

I'll leave a question for you. Which terrorist organisation is responsible for the most civilian deaths in the last 15 years? - civilians being innocent humans, including women and young children
a) Al Qaeda, b) ISIS, c) US & UK  

You will find your answer as to why a lot of countries over there see us as terrorists
You want to discuss everything but the video. It's obvious you haven't watched it yet. Your are getting quite annoying.
I have read the bible I was going by what you said when I posted that, it went over your head. You keep trying to apply the context that the bible was written in to the context of the Quran. It's not the same thing. As I said before, the Old Testament wasn't a Revelation for the world to follow like your are saying. So today in our times we can't go and fight the Amalekites. lol As far as I know they don't exist anymore. That verse was obviously solely for the children of Israel for that time they were at war with them. Just as I said before.

Fact of the matter is the Quran does teach violence. It's really that simple. The verses are documented in the documentary, all you have to do is freeze the video and read them when they are shown. All of this talk you are doing only makes you look silly to those who have seen the video or who already knows the truth.

The Quran teaches violence, to over 1.6 BILLION people, yet I fail to see all the dead bodies around me? I suppose unless you're on of "those" who believe in unsubstantiated rubbish, with no evidence to back it up, it's nothing more than propaganda that you've fallen for. You can dress it up any way you like to maintain this programmed belief, but the reality is, is that it's a documentary that has selectively handpicked sections of it to paint a bleak picture of the entire Muslim religion that the MAJORITY of Muslims do not share. For if they did, half of the world population would have been killed off or violently attacked, with daily incidents resulting in mass injuries.

All religious books, including the bible can be selectively handpicked to promote violence. Until you use your own mind, look at both sides, actually look at the peaceful messages within the Quran - Though I highly doubt these were ever mentioned in your little documentary, since it detracts away from its purpose and agenda - read some of the Quran, and more importantly look around you at the evidence and sheer numbers of Muslims around the globe and apply common sense. When I was a young teenager, I too would watch a one-sided documentary and believe it, however age, life experience and a deeper insight has led me to keep an open mind and to ensure that I watch / read with a sceptical approach and research both sides before coming to a conclusion, but it's a conclusion, which is far more accurate because bias exists on all sides, but this documentary, I and many others can see right through it. When you get a little older you may be able to too
Not true at all they show you from the Quran. That's the evidence. I don't have time to do what the video already shows. Those who watch it and want to discuss any part of it can. Anyone who just wants to argue for the sake of arguing can go right ahead. Also, I've already destroyed your argument as to why you can't apply the bible to your argument. If you have a problem with violence advocated in the Old Testament scriptures, go talk to someone who follows it and disregards the New Testament. Matter of fact, keep reading......

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And what are you cheering for? lol

Here are some verses from the Old testament that you believe applies to you:
Exodus 21:23
And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,

 Exodus 21:24
Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,

 Exodus 21:25
Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

Here is the non violent New Testament that you don't believe in:
Matthew 5:38
Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:

 Matthew 5:39
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

He's talking about your beliefs genius!
 

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Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #46 on: January 26, 2016, 08:32:46 PM »
How do you know? You have stated that you're a kid who has never even read the bible? I would thoroughly recommend you go away and read it first before trying to lecture other people about what the bible teaches. It's like a swimming teacher trying to teach people how to swim, while never having stepped foot into a pool.

With any of the grown ups (25+ and above) who have read parts of several religious books (like myself) you will realise that every religious text can have so many different meanings. Every main religious book advocates horrific violence and death. Everyone main religious book advocates peace. But with text that is so ambiguous, it can be misinterpreted to sound like anything.

Like I've said before, with the bible having some pretty vile and obscene passages, I know many Christians who are very nice human beings, and who do not condone the killing of little babies and children (Samuel 15:3,8
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys
) This is what fear propagandists do, they pick a few quotes from the Quran, and claim that the entire religion promoted death, terrorism and suffering. Only a paranoid and ignorant individual would allow such nonsense to fill them with fear. As mentioned, there are over 1 billion Muslims on earth. If that were true, we'd all be dead right now. Like Christians, I know many Muslims, most I was brought up with / around, and they, like other compassionate human being are just as disgusted with 'people' exploiting their religious as an excuse to commit pain in the world.

You should visit an Middle Eastern country and see for yourself what the opinion is of the West.  

Also - Regarding 2Pac's song quote (I never mentioned anything about a tattoo?) from 'Breathin' with the line of "Woke up with 50 enemies plotting my death" is a reference to the United States of America plotting his death - morally, politically, through the media etc. 50 being the 50 states. The Alien and Sedition Act is within 50 USC Sections, allowing the president to imprison and deport noncitizens who were deemed dangerous to the government. This Act is still in existence today. Of course, to someone with a closed mind, they just assume it's 50 random men, but there is a purpose to why he said '50'. There are a lot of Anti-government metaphors in his work, especially towards the last year of his life, most of which I'm sure have went way over your head if you missed that one.  

I'll leave a question for you. Which terrorist organisation is responsible for the most civilian deaths in the last 15 years? - civilians being innocent humans, including women and young children
a) Al Qaeda, b) ISIS, c) US & UK  

You will find your answer as to why a lot of countries over there see us as terrorists
You want to discuss everything but the video. It's obvious you haven't watched it yet. Your are getting quite annoying.
I have read the bible I was going by what you said when I posted that, it went over your head. You keep trying to apply the context that the bible was written in to the context of the Quran. It's not the same thing. As I said before, the Old Testament wasn't a Revelation for the world to follow like your are saying. So today in our times we can't go and fight the Amalekites. lol As far as I know they don't exist anymore. That verse was obviously solely for the children of Israel for that time they were at war with them. Just as I said before.

Fact of the matter is the Quran does teach violence. It's really that simple. The verses are documented in the documentary, all you have to do is freeze the video and read them when they are shown. All of this talk you are doing only makes you look silly to those who have seen the video or who already knows the truth.

The Quran teaches violence, to over 1.6 BILLION people, yet I fail to see all the dead bodies around me? I suppose unless you're on of "those" who believe in unsubstantiated rubbish, with no evidence to back it up, it's nothing more than propaganda that you've fallen for. You can dress it up any way you like to maintain this programmed belief, but the reality is, is that it's a documentary that has selectively handpicked sections of it to paint a bleak picture of the entire Muslim religion that the MAJORITY of Muslims do not share. For if they did, half of the world population would have been killed off or violently attacked, with daily incidents resulting in mass injuries.

All religious books, including the bible can be selectively handpicked to promote violence. Until you use your own mind, look at both sides, actually look at the peaceful messages within the Quran - Though I highly doubt these were ever mentioned in your little documentary, since it detracts away from its purpose and agenda - read some of the Quran, and more importantly look around you at the evidence and sheer numbers of Muslims around the globe and apply common sense. When I was a young teenager, I too would watch a one-sided documentary and believe it, however age, life experience and a deeper insight has led me to keep an open mind and to ensure that I watch / read with a sceptical approach and research both sides before coming to a conclusion, but it's a conclusion, which is far more accurate because bias exists on all sides, but this documentary, I and many others can see right through it. When you get a little older you may be able to too
Not true at all they show you from the Quran. That's the evidence. I don't have time to do what the video already shows. Those who watch it and want to discuss any part of it can. Anyone who just wants to argue for the sake of arguing can go right ahead. Also, I've already destroyed your argument as to why you can't apply the bible to your argument. If you have a problem with violence advocated in the Old Testament scriptures, go talk to someone who follows it and disregards the New Testament. Matter of fact, keep reading......

preach
And what are you cheering for? lol

Here are some verses from the Old testament that you believe applies to you:
Exodus 21:23
And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,

 Exodus 21:24
Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,

 Exodus 21:25
Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

Here is the non violent New Testament that you don't believe in:
Matthew 5:38
Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:

 Matthew 5:39
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

He's talking about your beliefs genius!


I believe in an eye for an eye, what's ur point?
 

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Re: Shocking documentary about Islam - The world's most dangerous cult!
« Reply #47 on: February 02, 2016, 06:08:57 AM »
How do you know? You have stated that you're a kid who has never even read the bible? I would thoroughly recommend you go away and read it first before trying to lecture other people about what the bible teaches. It's like a swimming teacher trying to teach people how to swim, while never having stepped foot into a pool.

With any of the grown ups (25+ and above) who have read parts of several religious books (like myself) you will realise that every religious text can have so many different meanings. Every main religious book advocates horrific violence and death. Everyone main religious book advocates peace. But with text that is so ambiguous, it can be misinterpreted to sound like anything.

Like I've said before, with the bible having some pretty vile and obscene passages, I know many Christians who are very nice human beings, and who do not condone the killing of little babies and children (Samuel 15:3,8
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys
) This is what fear propagandists do, they pick a few quotes from the Quran, and claim that the entire religion promoted death, terrorism and suffering. Only a paranoid and ignorant individual would allow such nonsense to fill them with fear. As mentioned, there are over 1 billion Muslims on earth. If that were true, we'd all be dead right now. Like Christians, I know many Muslims, most I was brought up with / around, and they, like other compassionate human being are just as disgusted with 'people' exploiting their religious as an excuse to commit pain in the world.

You should visit an Middle Eastern country and see for yourself what the opinion is of the West.  

Also - Regarding 2Pac's song quote (I never mentioned anything about a tattoo?) from 'Breathin' with the line of "Woke up with 50 enemies plotting my death" is a reference to the United States of America plotting his death - morally, politically, through the media etc. 50 being the 50 states. The Alien and Sedition Act is within 50 USC Sections, allowing the president to imprison and deport noncitizens who were deemed dangerous to the government. This Act is still in existence today. Of course, to someone with a closed mind, they just assume it's 50 random men, but there is a purpose to why he said '50'. There are a lot of Anti-government metaphors in his work, especially towards the last year of his life, most of which I'm sure have went way over your head if you missed that one.  

I'll leave a question for you. Which terrorist organisation is responsible for the most civilian deaths in the last 15 years? - civilians being innocent humans, including women and young children
a) Al Qaeda, b) ISIS, c) US & UK  

You will find your answer as to why a lot of countries over there see us as terrorists
You want to discuss everything but the video. It's obvious you haven't watched it yet. Your are getting quite annoying.
I have read the bible I was going by what you said when I posted that, it went over your head. You keep trying to apply the context that the bible was written in to the context of the Quran. It's not the same thing. As I said before, the Old Testament wasn't a Revelation for the world to follow like your are saying. So today in our times we can't go and fight the Amalekites. lol As far as I know they don't exist anymore. That verse was obviously solely for the children of Israel for that time they were at war with them. Just as I said before.

Fact of the matter is the Quran does teach violence. It's really that simple. The verses are documented in the documentary, all you have to do is freeze the video and read them when they are shown. All of this talk you are doing only makes you look silly to those who have seen the video or who already knows the truth.

The Quran teaches violence, to over 1.6 BILLION people, yet I fail to see all the dead bodies around me? I suppose unless you're on of "those" who believe in unsubstantiated rubbish, with no evidence to back it up, it's nothing more than propaganda that you've fallen for. You can dress it up any way you like to maintain this programmed belief, but the reality is, is that it's a documentary that has selectively handpicked sections of it to paint a bleak picture of the entire Muslim religion that the MAJORITY of Muslims do not share. For if they did, half of the world population would have been killed off or violently attacked, with daily incidents resulting in mass injuries.

All religious books, including the bible can be selectively handpicked to promote violence. Until you use your own mind, look at both sides, actually look at the peaceful messages within the Quran - Though I highly doubt these were ever mentioned in your little documentary, since it detracts away from its purpose and agenda - read some of the Quran, and more importantly look around you at the evidence and sheer numbers of Muslims around the globe and apply common sense. When I was a young teenager, I too would watch a one-sided documentary and believe it, however age, life experience and a deeper insight has led me to keep an open mind and to ensure that I watch / read with a sceptical approach and research both sides before coming to a conclusion, but it's a conclusion, which is far more accurate because bias exists on all sides, but this documentary, I and many others can see right through it. When you get a little older you may be able to too
Not true at all they show you from the Quran. That's the evidence. I don't have time to do what the video already shows. Those who watch it and want to discuss any part of it can. Anyone who just wants to argue for the sake of arguing can go right ahead. Also, I've already destroyed your argument as to why you can't apply the bible to your argument. If you have a problem with violence advocated in the Old Testament scriptures, go talk to someone who follows it and disregards the New Testament. Matter of fact, keep reading......

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And what are you cheering for? lol

Here are some verses from the Old testament that you believe applies to you:
Exodus 21:23
And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,

 Exodus 21:24
Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,

 Exodus 21:25
Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

Here is the non violent New Testament that you don't believe in:
Matthew 5:38
Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:

 Matthew 5:39
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

He's talking about your beliefs genius!

The new testament bible has plenty of violent passages and statements in there, and it actually states in Mathew that there is no objections to the old testament either. That old justification saying for modern war about God making peace through blood comes from the new testament. Again, I suggest you actually go away and take the time to read it and research the things you try to claim as fact. You may have backtracked later claiming to be sarcastic when you said you hadn't read the bible, but I don't think you have read it. I don't think you would have read the Quran either for that matter, for if you did you would know that it has a lot of peaceful passages in there, but more importantly you would notice very early on that each book is so deep, vague, simple, complicated and varied that you'd know there's too much complexity to accurately affirm to one thing or another and you would have a more open mind about this topic rather than regurgitating an obvious propaganda documentary claiming Islam is bad, Christianity is good. It has served it's purpose!
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