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Sccit

Re: JERRY HELLER SUES DR. DRE, CUBE AND 'COMPTON' PRODUCERS FOR DEFAMATION
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2015, 11:48:36 AM »
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Re: JERRY HELLER SUES DR. DRE, CUBE AND 'COMPTON' PRODUCERS FOR DEFAMATION
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2015, 11:55:13 AM »
its a movie some parts are fabricated Jeery going ot get this case tossed out.
  Maybe not.  He might get a little money but it will likely be some settlement money to where he gets paid to not discuss the case.  It will all depend.  When you have a biopic that is based on real events that makes as much money as this one did, it's only natural that people are going to come out of the woodworks to sue.  I think Heller's best argument is them taking stuff from the book.  I think I recall Cube admitting to this but the reality is it is a movie.  Alonzo Williams had the most reasonable reaction to it all.  He said they depicted him differently but understood that facts are changed around for storytelling purposes.  The old saying, "Never little the truth get in the way of a good story". 
 

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Re: JERRY HELLER SUES DR. DRE, CUBE AND 'COMPTON' PRODUCERS FOR DEFAMATION
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2015, 12:32:33 PM »
BLASPHEMY WHATUP
Last couple of years of my life in a nutshell can be summed up in this one video.

 

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Re: JERRY HELLER SUES DR. DRE, CUBE AND 'COMPTON' PRODUCERS FOR DEFAMATION
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2015, 12:40:52 PM »
BLASPHEMY WHATUP
Last couple of years of my life in a nutshell can be summed up in this one video.




WE NEED SOME OF THEM CLASSIC TL;DR TALES BRODIE

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Re: JERRY HELLER SUES DR. DRE, CUBE AND 'COMPTON' PRODUCERS FOR DEFAMATION
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2015, 01:27:02 PM »
BLASPHEMY WHATUP
Last couple of years of my life in a nutshell can be summed up in this one video.




WE NEED SOME OF THEM CLASSIC TL;DR TALES BRODIE

So you remember that post I made before I left, I was fucked up when I wrote that and for a period I wasn't doing anything bad, I was a remorseful on some aspects of my life, not the people I stabbed or fucked up because they deserved it, more like the people I fucked with when I didn't have to. anyways, so  I was trying to be a good motherfucker, let peoples bullshit slide, not call em out on it, it gave me a relationship with my family again. stopped representing the organization, I was still involved with bullshit because of friends but I stopped wearing my gear in that capacity, I still wear it because its my city and I love the football team.I started Identifying myself more as anarchist (which is actually on a old school tip, is that's what I was when I was younger) and less as a gangster. So there I am being a legitimate good motherfucker for awhile still catching flack for my old ways, when all of a sudden people start thinking I'm not the aggressive motherfucker I was before, which is good. I mean you ever listen to Straight outta Comptons Gangsta Gangsta track that was fucking me. So now they're starting to act good towards me everything is going good, then I start to notice they not treating me with the respect I had before, couple of motherfuckers talking shit, but I'm like I'm in that shit anymore..

Then the car accident happen.

So I got rear ended by some asshole going 120mph while I'm doing 65 at the most (company vehicle), so now I can't take a day off because I'm supporting my dad who has cancer, I've been doing it for 2 fucking years already. So I go back to work completely fucked up, never getting treatment, then people start talking shit, because I didn't get outta the car and smash that motherfucker into bits. Because I didn't sue my work the moment it happened (I ended up doing that once I found another job, it's tied up). Then I hear people saying Courage aint shit, motherfucker is weak, peoples bullshit starts piling on getting more fucking annoying, so I go straight over to the motherfucker in the bel-air I roll up they look at me I'm like COME ON MOTHERFUCKER TALK SHIT NOW I'M RIGHT HERE, Screaming this shit at him, Telling motherfuckers about what a fucking hoe he was being when he lost his job at where I used to work (I got fired later for allegedly doing donuts on the forklift). Dude stays silent, then I head out to another spot and my friend got funk with people from around the way, so we roll over there in my car because this guy has no fucking car or job, and we end up fucking up these 2 motherfuckers, and so during this period my rage just starts building, so my family comes at me on some bullshit I call em out on it, so they're pissed off at me again, and now my nephew is dealing with gangs because of his friends and school, he's not in a organization and he has no plans to I'll kick his ass if he does, so his homies got issues with several different motherfuckers, So now when they go out to functions were they might run into these young motherfuckers I come along to provide "security" sorta bodyguard, One of his friends got funk with the bloods, I can't wait for that day, Cause I hate a slob more then fucking scrap. I don't represent any thing anymore, but I'm just in fuck shit up mode again. No body be talking that C-Dawg is weak shit anymore, stupid motherfuckers. That's just some of the more recent shit, like I said in the previous post, last couple of years been a bit fucked.
 

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Re: JERRY HELLER SUES DR. DRE, CUBE AND 'COMPTON' PRODUCERS FOR DEFAMATION
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2015, 10:20:41 AM »
I don't know that he has much of a case.  Because actually... they didn't even do him that dirty in the movie.   That's the thing.  And there are witnesses like Bone—to Jerry being fired by Eazy.  And the contract thing with Cube, and whether or not he at Lobster—is kind of splitting hairs.  Because clearly there was a 75,000 dollar check out there and Cube just didn't even end up signing it.  I didn't even really seem him withhold anything from Cube in the movie.  Also, Heller can't really argue that Dre wasn't underpaid, because clearly he was underpaid.  The movie never painted Jerry as stealing money from them, it just showed that Dre was underpaid, and even that point wasn't really made emphatically.  

So I think the simple fact is that they didn't really drag Jerry through the mud in the movie.  As much as he would like to believe that they did, they really didn't.  Did they give him a fair shake?  Probably not, because Cube is a bit of a racist and probably still hates Jerry... but they didn't exactly drag his name through the mud either.   So I hope he loses the case.

This is bullshit that all these people are trying to get money off of this film.  You got Suge thinking he deserves a cut.  Then Suge goes and kills some people over it, and then next thing you know their families are making million dollars worth of wrongful death lawsuits against Dre and Cube thinking they deserve a cut as well.... this is all bullshit.  Suge is the one that killed them, and Dre and Cube had nothing to do with it.  

The most ridiculous of all is Suge thinking he deserves a cut... hasn't Dre made that dude enough money in his life?   Look what he has accomplished without Dre.  He ran the company into the ground and spent most of the years in prison.
I'm going to go on a limb here and say that either Jerry wasn't fired or if he was he knows that no one can prove it. You mention Bone as witnesses but they didn't witness Jerry being fired. They were just told by other employee's that he had been fired. It may sound tedious but in a court of law it's not he same thing. Think if it was a murder. Would you convict someone for murder just because someone told you they did it or would you go by people who actually witnessed the murder taking place? Bone didn't see it so they can't say for sure, it's merely hearsay. It's like I said before. None of us have seen anything that proves that Jerry was taking money or anything of that nature. We just believe it because it has been stated on so many occasions. That's not to say he did or didn't, I'm just making a point here.

Dre may have been underpaid but as long as he was getting paid based off of his contract then the law wasn't broken. Another thing I've said in the past is that in all likelihood Heller wasn't physically stealing money from his artist. What probably happened was that he gave them standard slave industry contracts and was getting over in that way. I don't agree with it at all but legally if you sign a bad contract then that's not theft. This would explain why no member has ever sued Jerry for money owed because contractually he doesn't owe them.

The movie did show Jerry stealing money when he was saying that he looked out for himself and the fact that Eazy had to downgrade his house shortly thereafter as if Jerry had robbed him blind. That's where they messed up at.

From what I've read Suge didn't like the way he was being portrayed in the film. Even Jerry said that Suge never touched Eazy and thats coming from a man that hates Suge. Yet Suge is portrayed in the movie beating Eazy. I have heard that repeatedly and believed it also but people are now coming out saying that it never happened. When you do movies like this you can't make mistakes but putting in rumors that make people look bad like that. It sets you up for a lawsuit. They also messed up by not reaching out to key figures. We discussed that way before the movie came out because people on the Ruthless side were complaining about it. Regardless of how they felt about Jerry and various Ruthless artist they should have consulted them. Had they done so they wouldn't be in this mess now. Not sure if Suge felt he wanted a cut or if he heard about how they made him look but had they got with him then Terry Carter would still be alive as well. It's not like Dre or Cube had to personally deal with anyone they didn't want to, you hire people for that. Bottom line is they messed up big time in several ways with this film and you can tell by the Terry Carter situation/lawsuit, the backlash over the inaccuracies of the film and now this lawsuit.
No man born of woman tho. Dead homies.

 

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Re: JERRY HELLER SUES DR. DRE, CUBE AND 'COMPTON' PRODUCERS FOR DEFAMATION
« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2015, 03:11:34 AM »
I don't know that he has much of a case.  Because actually... they didn't even do him that dirty in the movie.   That's the thing.  And there are witnesses like Bone—to Jerry being fired by Eazy.  And the contract thing with Cube, and whether or not he at Lobster—is kind of splitting hairs.  Because clearly there was a 75,000 dollar check out there and Cube just didn't even end up signing it.  I didn't even really seem him withhold anything from Cube in the movie.  Also, Heller can't really argue that Dre wasn't underpaid, because clearly he was underpaid.  The movie never painted Jerry as stealing money from them, it just showed that Dre was underpaid, and even that point wasn't really made emphatically.  

So I think the simple fact is that they didn't really drag Jerry through the mud in the movie.  As much as he would like to believe that they did, they really didn't.  Did they give him a fair shake?  Probably not, because Cube is a bit of a racist and probably still hates Jerry... but they didn't exactly drag his name through the mud either.   So I hope he loses the case.

This is bullshit that all these people are trying to get money off of this film.  You got Suge thinking he deserves a cut.  Then Suge goes and kills some people over it, and then next thing you know their families are making million dollars worth of wrongful death lawsuits against Dre and Cube thinking they deserve a cut as well.... this is all bullshit.  Suge is the one that killed them, and Dre and Cube had nothing to do with it.  

The most ridiculous of all is Suge thinking he deserves a cut... hasn't Dre made that dude enough money in his life?   Look what he has accomplished without Dre.  He ran the company into the ground and spent most of the years in prison.
I'm going to go on a limb here and say that either Jerry wasn't fired or if he was he knows that no one can prove it. You mention Bone as witnesses but they didn't witness Jerry being fired. They were just told by other employee's that he had been fired. It may sound tedious but in a court of law it's not he same thing. Think if it was a murder. Would you convict someone for murder just because someone told you they did it or would you go by people who actually witnessed the murder taking place? Bone didn't see it so they can't say for sure, it's merely hearsay. It's like I said before. None of us have seen anything that proves that Jerry was taking money or anything of that nature. We just believe it because it has been stated on so many occasions. That's not to say he did or didn't, I'm just making a point here.

Dre may have been underpaid but as long as he was getting paid based off of his contract then the law wasn't broken. Another thing I've said in the past is that in all likelihood Heller wasn't physically stealing money from his artist. What probably happened was that he gave them standard slave industry contracts and was getting over in that way. I don't agree with it at all but legally if you sign a bad contract then that's not theft. This would explain why no member has ever sued Jerry for money owed because contractually he doesn't owe them.

The movie did show Jerry stealing money when he was saying that he looked out for himself and the fact that Eazy had to downgrade his house shortly thereafter as if Jerry had robbed him blind. That's where they messed up at.

From what I've read Suge didn't like the way he was being portrayed in the film. Even Jerry said that Suge never touched Eazy and thats coming from a man that hates Suge. Yet Suge is portrayed in the movie beating Eazy. I have heard that repeatedly and believed it also but people are now coming out saying that it never happened. When you do movies like this you can't make mistakes but putting in rumors that make people look bad like that. It sets you up for a lawsuit. They also messed up by not reaching out to key figures. We discussed that way before the movie came out because people on the Ruthless side were complaining about it. Regardless of how they felt about Jerry and various Ruthless artist they should have consulted them. Had they done so they wouldn't be in this mess now. Not sure if Suge felt he wanted a cut or if he heard about how they made him look but had they got with him then Terry Carter would still be alive as well. It's not like Dre or Cube had to personally deal with anyone they didn't want to, you hire people for that. Bottom line is they messed up big time in several ways with this film and you can tell by the Terry Carter situation/lawsuit, the backlash over the inaccuracies of the film and now this lawsuit.
The people who are saying it never happened mean he never Hit him or beat him down, the bulk of the people involved stated he was threatened, but even in the original lawsuits I don't recall them saying he actually got physically assaulted, just threatened with bats, and Dr. Dre's release was under duress. Suge wanted a cut, he's been talking shit for years about how he's Dr. Dre's "Life time" manager for years. Suge shouldn't of gone down there, and he wanted to see Dr. Dre specifically, but security did there job and kept him out, he fucked up when he followed them to the burger joint, and Sloan fucked up even worse by just wailing on the motherfucker. Dude is in a fucking truck, he can and did hit your ass. Terry dying was just collateral damage.

As for the inaccuracies No fucking way would they allow people to see the real Niggaz 4 Life

Never mind the bulk of them niggaz treated women like shit,

Dr. Dre beating women, speeding in his POS car, getting put in jail for TICKETS not assaults, getting punked by Suge Knight and getting dissed by Tupac in the end, getting shot, his house arrest, they showed his DUI/Speed chase.

Eazy E in his full gangsterism of not giving a fuck (Eazy in the film was soft) dealing drugs, dressed up in the slightly more proper mid 80s gear (Check the OLD photos of N.W.A before they figured out they group clothing style, Lot of cats dressed like that),

One of the first N.W.A songs "Panic Zone" ala The Arabian Prince's original input before they found there new style.

Ice Cube hanging out with the crip organization on his block, but never actually doing shit, going to college, dressed up in again the PROPER 80s style, seriously, I know people way back in the day, they aren't ashamed because they said it themselves that was the style, hell 1 dog I know still listens to Egyptian lover, Funk, 50s,60s, and doesn't dig  a lot of rap.

They always wrote off the Wrecking Crew Era, but it's nothing to be ashamed of, it was in the moment, it's what got them known in the club originally.

MC Ren doing his thing.

DJ Yella filming porn on the side in the early 90s (he started via a alias before Eazy's death apparently)

Them motherfuckers being Broke and still in the hood while the Compton album was making waves in the media, giving interviews (Check the really old interviews, no body started making real money until after 89 and the first Tour).

All of em post Cube saying Dee Barnes deserved to get her ass beat, them firing guns on stage.

MORE into the Feud it's self, Dr. Dre looking retarded in Michelle's music videos, N.W.A giving Cube the cold shoulder in the interviews,  lynch mob committing murder, Cube ripping off King Sun, Dropping Lynch Mob because of said murder charges, ripping off Cypress Hill.


There is so much shit going on between the period of 88 to 96 (The period the movie takes place) that's pretty fucking gangster and fucked up because of them, who's around and involved with them that no fucking way they would show the truth, because in today's environment people want what I call "The Friendly Gangster" Think Drake, or all these other cats today, claiming to be in gangs and gangsters and not actually doing shit to earn or be labeled that title. People who you see claiming, acting it, but are generally good people who don't actually meet the requirement to earn said label, but the people who consume that product or pass judgement isn't gonna complain  because it's like a movie.

Think Menace II Society, Goodfellas, Every fucking crime flick from  the Criminals point of view, people see that shit and they like em, they sympathize with them, they would even like to look at them as friends if they were real or be them, but in real life those people who do that wouldn't ever in they life want people like that in there life, people who are the real deal, so when they see someone who resembles the movie, they are not gonna care, they're gonna accept it. The terms are no longer in relation to actually being a hardcore motherfuckers. Now the real motherfuckers, they're the ones checking people on this stupid shit. They're not gonna make a movie for the real motherfuckers, they're gonna make a movie for the other motherfuckers I just described. The people who rather deal with the "movie" version of a lifestyle but not the reality.

That type of shit that people do, is what gets motherfuckers shot. The reason I liked the REAL N.W.A and a lot of the old school acts is because those motherfuckers were broke like me, they were surrounded by motherfuckers who did all types of foul shit, hell a couple of them did it, they were fucked up individuals who weren't stupid and kept it real, the best interviews to watch on ANY rapper is the moment right before they get famous, when they're coming up, because it's before the Ego being driven by fame and yes men via the record company. It's motherfuckers being real because they are still in that environment where lying can get them fucked up.

 

Sccit

Re: JERRY HELLER SUES DR. DRE, CUBE AND 'COMPTON' PRODUCERS FOR DEFAMATION
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2015, 02:40:29 PM »
BLASPHEMY WHATUP
Last couple of years of my life in a nutshell can be summed up in this one video.




WE NEED SOME OF THEM CLASSIC TL;DR TALES BRODIE

So you remember that post I made before I left, I was fucked up when I wrote that and for a period I wasn't doing anything bad, I was a remorseful on some aspects of my life, not the people I stabbed or fucked up because they deserved it, more like the people I fucked with when I didn't have to. anyways, so  I was trying to be a good motherfucker, let peoples bullshit slide, not call em out on it, it gave me a relationship with my family again. stopped representing the organization, I was still involved with bullshit because of friends but I stopped wearing my gear in that capacity, I still wear it because its my city and I love the football team.I started Identifying myself more as anarchist (which is actually on a old school tip, is that's what I was when I was younger) and less as a gangster. So there I am being a legitimate good motherfucker for awhile still catching flack for my old ways, when all of a sudden people start thinking I'm not the aggressive motherfucker I was before, which is good. I mean you ever listen to Straight outta Comptons Gangsta Gangsta track that was fucking me. So now they're starting to act good towards me everything is going good, then I start to notice they not treating me with the respect I had before, couple of motherfuckers talking shit, but I'm like I'm in that shit anymore..

Then the car accident happen.

So I got rear ended by some asshole going 120mph while I'm doing 65 at the most (company vehicle), so now I can't take a day off because I'm supporting my dad who has cancer, I've been doing it for 2 fucking years already. So I go back to work completely fucked up, never getting treatment, then people start talking shit, because I didn't get outta the car and smash that motherfucker into bits. Because I didn't sue my work the moment it happened (I ended up doing that once I found another job, it's tied up). Then I hear people saying Courage aint shit, motherfucker is weak, peoples bullshit starts piling on getting more fucking annoying, so I go straight over to the motherfucker in the bel-air I roll up they look at me I'm like COME ON MOTHERFUCKER TALK SHIT NOW I'M RIGHT HERE, Screaming this shit at him, Telling motherfuckers about what a fucking hoe he was being when he lost his job at where I used to work (I got fired later for allegedly doing donuts on the forklift). Dude stays silent, then I head out to another spot and my friend got funk with people from around the way, so we roll over there in my car because this guy has no fucking car or job, and we end up fucking up these 2 motherfuckers, and so during this period my rage just starts building, so my family comes at me on some bullshit I call em out on it, so they're pissed off at me again, and now my nephew is dealing with gangs because of his friends and school, he's not in a organization and he has no plans to I'll kick his ass if he does, so his homies got issues with several different motherfuckers, So now when they go out to functions were they might run into these young motherfuckers I come along to provide "security" sorta bodyguard, One of his friends got funk with the bloods, I can't wait for that day, Cause I hate a slob more then fucking scrap. I don't represent any thing anymore, but I'm just in fuck shit up mode again. No body be talking that C-Dawg is weak shit anymore, stupid motherfuckers. That's just some of the more recent shit, like I said in the previous post, last couple of years been a bit fucked.



GOOD TO HAVE U BACK BRODIE