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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2016, 09:20:53 AM »
Dr. Dre - Compton = masterpiece
50 Cent - Get Rich Or Die Trying = classic

I guess if that's the logic we're speaking on with these terms that would be an example of my definitions

LOL at Sticky Fingaz creating a masterpiece though  :laugh: no hate, to each their own but that's hilarious
 

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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2016, 09:21:12 AM »
The best concept album ever (my term, use bout decade) And aint a masterpiece?
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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2016, 09:22:27 AM »
The best concept album ever (my term, use bout decade) And aint a masterpiece?

if that album is a masterpiece just because it's kinda conceptual then Kendrick's TPAB is the greatest masterpiece ever created in the history of all genres of music
 

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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2016, 11:16:39 AM »
Dr. Dre - Compton = masterpiece
50 Cent - Get Rich Or Die Trying = classic

I guess if that's the logic we're speaking on with these terms that would be an example of my definitions

LOL at Sticky Fingaz creating a masterpiece though  :laugh: no hate, to each their own but that's hilarious

50 as classic?
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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2016, 12:04:08 PM »
Dr. Dre - Compton = masterpiece
50 Cent - Get Rich Or Die Trying = classic

I guess if that's the logic we're speaking on with these terms that would be an example of my definitions

LOL at Sticky Fingaz creating a masterpiece though  :laugh: no hate, to each their own but that's hilarious


Both classics .. I mean, grodt might be borderline, but it's right there

No difference between masterpiece and classic .. It's just some shit mdogg came up wit. The dictionary itself has those words as interchangeable.
 

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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2016, 12:05:07 PM »
Black trash is a great album but I wouldn't call it a masterpiece or a classic


Doggfather, u got the OG version of that?
 

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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #31 on: October 08, 2016, 12:09:05 PM »
Black trash is a great album but I wouldn't call it a masterpiece or a classic


Doggfather, u got the OG version of that?

what og version?
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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #32 on: October 08, 2016, 12:26:06 PM »
Dr. Dre - Compton = masterpiece
50 Cent - Get Rich Or Die Trying = classic

I guess if that's the logic we're speaking on with these terms that would be an example of my definitions

LOL at Sticky Fingaz creating a masterpiece though  :laugh: no hate, to each their own but that's hilarious

50 as classic?

100%, there is no denying it... album bangs from to back, was both critically and commercially successful and changed the rap game
 

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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #33 on: October 08, 2016, 12:34:02 PM »
Dr. Dre - Compton = masterpiece
50 Cent - Get Rich Or Die Trying = classic

I guess if that's the logic we're speaking on with these terms that would be an example of my definitions

LOL at Sticky Fingaz creating a masterpiece though  :laugh: no hate, to each their own but that's hilarious


Both classics .. I mean, grodt might be borderline, but it's right there

No difference between masterpiece and classic .. It's just some shit mdogg came up wit. The dictionary itself has those words as interchangeable.

I guess when you say 'masterpiece' I think of an album that just flows perfectly front to back and has a more "cohesive" feel that's almost movie-like compared to your typical classic hip-hop album

GRODT for example is obviously a classic album where every song is dope but there is nothing spectacular at all about its sequence and the way the songs flow into one another where as Compton is more like a movie and very particular in the way it's put together in entirety down to the even the smallest of mixing effects

but I do agree, interchangeable terms basically
 

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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #34 on: October 08, 2016, 12:44:57 PM »
Black trash is a great album but I wouldn't call it a masterpiece or a classic


Doggfather, u got the OG version of that?

what og version?

There's a OG version of that album that came out prior to the retail
 

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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #35 on: October 08, 2016, 12:48:21 PM »
Dr. Dre - Compton = masterpiece
50 Cent - Get Rich Or Die Trying = classic

I guess if that's the logic we're speaking on with these terms that would be an example of my definitions

LOL at Sticky Fingaz creating a masterpiece though  :laugh: no hate, to each their own but that's hilarious


Both classics .. I mean, grodt might be borderline, but it's right there

No difference between masterpiece and classic .. It's just some shit mdogg came up wit. The dictionary itself has those words as interchangeable.

I guess when you say 'masterpiece' I think of an album that just flows perfectly front to back and has a more "cohesive" feel that's almost movie-like compared to your typical classic hip-hop album

GRODT for example is obviously a classic album where every song is dope but there is nothing spectacular at all about its sequence and the way the songs flow into one another where as Compton is more like a movie and very particular in the way it's put together in entirety down to the even the smallest of mixing effects

but I do agree, interchangeable terms basically

Yup .. Cohesive adds to greatness, but an album doesn't have to be cohesive to be a masterpiece. Like Dogg food, wouldn't really call it cohesive, but it's still a classic/masterpiece
 

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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2016, 01:11:53 PM »
Black trash is a great album but I wouldn't call it a masterpiece or a classic


Doggfather, u got the OG version of that?

what og version?

There's a OG version of that album that came out prior to the retail


nope. u got it?
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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #37 on: October 08, 2016, 01:14:56 PM »
Dr. Dre - Compton = masterpiece
50 Cent - Get Rich Or Die Trying = classic

I guess if that's the logic we're speaking on with these terms that would be an example of my definitions

LOL at Sticky Fingaz creating a masterpiece though  :laugh: no hate, to each their own but that's hilarious

50 as classic?

100%, there is no denying it... album bangs from to back, was both critically and commercially successful and changed the rap game


changed what?!

How?
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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #38 on: October 08, 2016, 02:51:31 PM »
Dr. Dre - Compton = masterpiece
50 Cent - Get Rich Or Die Trying = classic

I guess if that's the logic we're speaking on with these terms that would be an example of my definitions

LOL at Sticky Fingaz creating a masterpiece though  :laugh: no hate, to each their own but that's hilarious

50 as classic?

100%, there is no denying it... album bangs from to back, was both critically and commercially successful and changed the rap game


changed what?!

How?

if anybody has to seriously break that down for you then clearly you were living under a rock throughout the 2000s or you just flat out hate 50 Cent lol
 

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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #39 on: October 08, 2016, 04:07:40 PM »
Black trash is a great album but I wouldn't call it a masterpiece or a classic


Doggfather, u got the OG version of that?

what og version?

There's a OG version of that album that came out prior to the retail


nope. u got it?

Yes
 

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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #40 on: October 08, 2016, 05:57:29 PM »
Black trash is a great album but I wouldn't call it a masterpiece or a classic


Doggfather, u got the OG version of that?

what og version?

There's a OG version of that album that came out prior to the retail


nope. u got it?

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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #41 on: October 08, 2016, 06:54:20 PM »
Black trash is a great album but I wouldn't call it a masterpiece or a classic


Doggfather, u got the OG version of that?

what og version?

There's a OG version of that album that came out prior to the retail


nope. u got it?

EMOLIOR IS TROLLING LIKE USUAL. SMH.

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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #42 on: October 08, 2016, 08:37:23 PM »
Crooked I for sure and I'm not sure if I'd classify any of Beanie Sigel, Method Man or Busta Rhymes albums as classics


Statik Kxng is a classic record, fuck outta here

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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #43 on: October 08, 2016, 10:31:56 PM »
ok, lets strat with that, what is classic to you guys?


To me: worldwide(!) commercial and street success. BOTH. Like chronic, doggystyle, MMLP, 36 chambers, illmatic etc...


I aint use personal classic, or street classic terms, just classic.

Those terms (personal, street) aint real terms, just for fans who want to say their fav albums, or rappers are classics.

While i am a big fan of Ras Kass i have tosay SOI is not a classic record. It has big street succes, yes, 4 sure,, but commercial? Hell no. Not on the year when released, not on sales, nothin.

Same as  all crooked i, or jadakiss albums.

Or Nate Dogg, he IS a legend, GOAT hooker in the game, but he never released any classic solo album in his life.

Classic has nothin to do with sales .. It has to do with reception and impact within the hip-hop community .. Soul on ice is a classic because it changed the overall perception of west coast hip hop and showed the world that we could spit lyrics too. Before soul on ice, lyricism was hardly prevalent on the west coast. So while it didn't do huge numbers, it's considered a classic for that reason alone.

As for nates debut, it was the first of its kind and had hitters front to back, including many timeless joints .. And for that reason, it's a classic in its own right as well.  

Nates first one was pretty close... But I remember at the time it came out it felt like a bit of a letdown, also seemed to have a bit too much filler

Play it again

Play it again?  Are you kidding?  I never stopped listening to the album, I love that album.  I was just making a point that at the time it came out it failed to make an impact or any big impression, so it's hard to call it a classic.  Sure, a lot of people love it (including me) but not quite a classic.
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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #44 on: October 08, 2016, 10:59:10 PM »
Jadakiss and Fabolous come to mind (although Street Dreams was real solid)



Nate Dogg - of course Nate is one of the all time greats.  Has had so many great songs in his career and was an innovator.  Warren had a classic with G Funk Era, if Suge had not been in the way I think Warren, Daz, and Dre could've produced Nate a classic in those days.  Nates first album had several gems but too much filler as well.


Music & Me is a personal classic to me. No wack songs, and some incredible shit on there (Your Wife, Can't Nobody, Concrete Streets).
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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #45 on: October 08, 2016, 11:14:03 PM »
Black trash is a great album but I wouldn't call it a masterpiece or a classic


Doggfather, u got the OG version of that?

what og version?

There's a OG version of that album that came out prior to the retail


nope. u got it?

Yes

Send it to me please.
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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #46 on: October 08, 2016, 11:23:20 PM »
ok, lets strat with that, what is classic to you guys?


To me: worldwide(!) commercial and street success. BOTH. Like chronic, doggystyle, MMLP, 36 chambers, illmatic etc...


I aint use personal classic, or street classic terms, just classic.

Those terms (personal, street) aint real terms, just for fans who want to say their fav albums, or rappers are classics.

While i am a big fan of Ras Kass i have tosay SOI is not a classic record. It has big street succes, yes, 4 sure,, but commercial? Hell no. Not on the year when released, not on sales, nothin.

Same as  all crooked i, or jadakiss albums.

Or Nate Dogg, he IS a legend, GOAT hooker in the game, but he never released any classic solo album in his life.

Classic has nothin to do with sales .. It has to do with reception and impact within the hip-hop community .. Soul on ice is a classic because it changed the overall perception of west coast hip hop and showed the world that we could spit lyrics too. Before soul on ice, lyricism was hardly prevalent on the west coast. So while it didn't do huge numbers, it's considered a classic for that reason alone.

As for nates debut, it was the first of its kind and had hitters front to back, including many timeless joints .. And for that reason, it's a classic in its own right as well.  

Nates first one was pretty close... But I remember at the time it came out it felt like a bit of a letdown, also seemed to have a bit too much filler

Play it again

Play it again?  Are you kidding?  I never stopped listening to the album, I love that album.  I was just making a point that at the time it came out it failed to make an impact or any big impression, so it's hard to call it a classic.  Sure, a lot of people love it (including me) but not quite a classic.


It didn't make an impact because death row dropped the ball on releasing it .. Doesn't change the quality of the work
 

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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #47 on: October 08, 2016, 11:24:30 PM »
Black trash is a great album but I wouldn't call it a masterpiece or a classic


Doggfather, u got the OG version of that?

what og version?

There's a OG version of that album that came out prior to the retail


nope. u got it?

Yes

Send it to me please.

When I get my laptop back n runnin .. It's way more tracks than the released version, I believe 29 or somethin with about half of them bein skits
 

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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #48 on: October 10, 2016, 02:10:35 AM »
Dr. Dre - Compton = masterpiece
50 Cent - Get Rich Or Die Trying = classic

I guess if that's the logic we're speaking on with these terms that would be an example of my definitions

LOL at Sticky Fingaz creating a masterpiece though  :laugh: no hate, to each their own but that's hilarious

Not a fan of Onyx? "Blacktrash" is a classic in my opinion, but not like "Get Rich Or Die Trying" though, but i can bump it from the beginning to the end without feeling like i have to skip a song. I don't know if should i call it a personal classic. Sticky always been one of my favorite MC's. You should definitely give that one a new chance.
 

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Re: Rappers who should of but never could make a classic album
« Reply #49 on: October 10, 2016, 02:49:49 AM »
Black trash is a great album but I wouldn't call it a masterpiece or a classic


Doggfather, u got the OG version of that?

what og version?

There's a OG version of that album that came out prior to the retail


nope. u got it?

Yes

Send it to me please.

When I get my laptop back n runnin .. It's way more tracks than the released version, I believe 29 or somethin with about half of them bein skits

ok, thank you!
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