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SuperSpider

Re: What happens to Deathrow catalogue
« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2017, 11:44:27 PM »

I disagree. Younger hip-hop fans know him from IDWFU with Big Sean. That song was/is huge.

So what you are saying here is that because younger people (especially such crowds that listen to Big Sean) heard ONE song that E-40 was on, that would instantly give him recognition amongst them and they would start following his career and go pay for a show? It doesn't quite work like that for the mainstream young listeners, unfortunately.

Although to be fair Choices (Yup) got kind of big too, but I'm still not convinced it got people's attention.
Even I got plenty of one-off songs from different artists that I've never bothered to look into further.
 

dj coma

Re: What happens to Deathrow catalogue
« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2017, 01:43:36 AM »

I disagree. Younger hip-hop fans know him from IDWFU with Big Sean. That song was/is huge.

So what you are saying here is that because younger people (especially such crowds that listen to Big Sean) heard ONE song that E-40 was on, that would instantly give him recognition amongst them and they would start following his career and go pay for a show? It doesn't quite work like that for the mainstream young listeners, unfortunately.

Although to be fair Choices (Yup) got kind of big too, but I'm still not convinced it got people's attention.
Even I got plenty of one-off songs from different artists that I've never bothered to look into further.

No that was just one recent example. Choices, as you mentioned, also got a lot of play. Episode with Chris Brown, Function, On One, Slappin', etc. were all moderately popular.

He's not gonna sell out stadiums but he packs out the clubs. I'm just saying he stays relevant.
 

SuperSpider

Re: What happens to Deathrow catalogue
« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2017, 12:54:15 PM »

I disagree. Younger hip-hop fans know him from IDWFU with Big Sean. That song was/is huge.

So what you are saying here is that because younger people (especially such crowds that listen to Big Sean) heard ONE song that E-40 was on, that would instantly give him recognition amongst them and they would start following his career and go pay for a show? It doesn't quite work like that for the mainstream young listeners, unfortunately.

Although to be fair Choices (Yup) got kind of big too, but I'm still not convinced it got people's attention.
Even I got plenty of one-off songs from different artists that I've never bothered to look into further.

No that was just one recent example. Choices, as you mentioned, also got a lot of play. Episode with Chris Brown, Function, On One, Slappin', etc. were all moderately popular.

He's not gonna sell out stadiums but he packs out the clubs. I'm just saying he stays relevant.


I definitely agree he always finds a way to stay relevant, I'm just not sure it's with the younger mainstream crowd exactly.
 

2Relevant

Re: What happens to Deathrow catalogue
« Reply #48 on: February 05, 2017, 01:16:48 PM »

I disagree. Younger hip-hop fans know him from IDWFU with Big Sean. That song was/is huge.

So what you are saying here is that because younger people (especially such crowds that listen to Big Sean) heard ONE song that E-40 was on, that would instantly give him recognition amongst them and they would start following his career and go pay for a show? It doesn't quite work like that for the mainstream young listeners, unfortunately.

Although to be fair Choices (Yup) got kind of big too, but I'm still not convinced it got people's attention.
Even I got plenty of one-off songs from different artists that I've never bothered to look into further.

 I'm just saying he stays relevant.

very true just like tech n9ne the 90s and even lower 00s west should have taken notes from e40 instead of trying to revive a dead trend
 

love33

Re: What happens to Deathrow catalogue
« Reply #49 on: February 06, 2017, 01:13:28 AM »
If 2Pac was alive, he could drop a multi-platinum album tomorrow with Suge Executive Producing and all these newer artists would sit and watch in complete shock and awe --


Peeps need to stop living in 1994 tbh. If 2Pac was alive today he probably wouldn't sell shit either. There's plenty of legends who are still alive and releasing music nowadays and it all goes copper. The market's changed with the years, the artists themselves change with the years, hip-hop has changed too (going forwards or backwards is discussable).

If people want to play pretend that this and that artist who was alive in the 90s will DEFINITELY be writing similar lyrics, discussing similar topics or even have the same mindset 20 years later, then so be it. To me, that's just delusional.

sometimes i think most these people in this forum are delusional i agree 100% with what you said

When pac died, suge went to jail, death row got dropped by interscope -- then the media blackballed the west and went to dmx, fat joe, busta rhymes, shyne, mase, mystikal, puffy... it changed the entire scope of the game goin from East vs West encouraged by media to puffy dancing in space suits and will smith gettin jiggy wit it -- so i have to say pac dieing killed pretty much the whole west at that time not named dre, snoop,or  xzibit

And the west kept delaying their albums because the East was on fire early 2000s, media was giving them the push and they had taken over all the dance hits...then 50, nas, dmx, cassidy, fat joe, ja rule, and jay-z all kept coming and they set the standard with the media -- if Pac never died, he might have ran the East with Death Row East and the West artists prob wouldve dropped  albums -- we wouldve got Crooked I and Dr Dre Detox -- but any artist not named Game wasnt getting spins, and Dre and Suge had cold feet about the West -- Dre was busy makin Eminem money and Dre never reunited with Suge, which wouldve helped but prob not the savier -- a lot of things changed is my point after pac

the west didn't get blackballed moron people just got tired of the redundant gangsta rap and that's what most of the west was doing at the time that's why they all failed after 2pac cause no one care anymore times were changing new artists were coming out and the east pretty much took over till the south came in and took total control cause again people wanted something different not the same o redundant gangsta rap Crooked I was and still is a nobody good artist but hes boring there was no Dr Dre Detox there was the aftermath album which failed again due to people moving on the people became interested again when 2001 came out and then afterward when the game came out cause he was a west coast guy who sounded east and different and connected well with the people that's why hes successful even today even tho  Kurupt was there he was still considered a nobody and then you got kdot

why in the fuck would Dre reunited with Suge?

I dont think you know what you're talkin about -- The whole media was against the West and they had no Major pushing records -- The Interscope pullout on Death Row hurt because they didn't just pullout but they went AGAINST Death Row who was the whole West -- and then Dre was slow to release records -- media was on that Nas vs. Jay-z -- and you had Young Gunz with "betta luv", Cassidy came out with R Kelly and "Get No Betta", Fat Joe droppin shit allover, Ja RUle, 50 Cent ft. Lil Kim "Magic Stick" -- that's the type of shit they were rollin with and it was HOT and they shut the WEST out completely -- if you were the dopest artist at that time (EASTWOOD is a sick rapper) you were shutout -- Even E-40 who is a HUGE MONSTER in the Rap Game today was struggling for airplay outside of CA -- to ignore that would be like you need to be fitted for a Dunce cap!

i would shut the west down too if the same music kept coming out people wanted change and that shit in the east was something different at the time
not to take away from these two artist
 EASTWOOD is a nobody
E-40 has some name value but outside of cali is a nobody

music is like a evolution you cant keep having the same shit it always evolves just like the mumble clone rap today it will die too that shit in the west was just a trend but you too stuck in the past to realize that gangsta rap and gfunk had its run time to let it go its been dead for a very very very very very very very long time and its never coming back :D

E-40 is A MONSTER -- he has a Commercial for BEATS -- Draymond Green rolls with him and points him out in his interviews -- He's mentioned everytime NBA on TNT is on they point him out and go "there's E-40 sitting up there" at the Warriors Games -- his 4 part CD release and on Da Corner that shit is HOT HOT -- he had the #1 Song in the Entire Country for the YEAR "I Don't Fuck Wit U" -- that was a MONSTER hit from Florida to New York to Texas to California -- He's had hits in EVERY ERA -- the Baka Boyz are syndicated and they play his shit ALL the time!  E-40 is the HUGEST Rapper on the WEST right now next to Kendrick Lamar and Game from a Mainstream perspective

Eastwood, who he knows E-40 by the way [they know each other], didn't have luck with distribution and maybe that is or isn't his fault but you're going to tell me this guy can't spit fire man, you wouldn't have all these cats working with him -- he's a real rare oddity

I respect your view you like to hear rap music change, but I Disagree -- RAP should stay in it's Early 90's form and maybe some modern beats -- the 90's had all the lyrical spitters, now it's mostly Beats taking it over -- I'd rather it just stay the same, that's the reason 90% of this forum comes on here is to hear the Death Row stuff and 90's rappers -- there's a reason why Rap is like a Flat Tire now -- you have Migos and DRake... what else is happening in Rap? Yeah Wayne is around -- this is why E-40 is still relevant in today's game because there's no competition and no platform for new rappers -- there's been no new cats to storm the scene hard in the past 8 years
 

2Relevant

Re: What happens to Deathrow catalogue
« Reply #50 on: February 06, 2017, 06:45:20 AM »
If 2Pac was alive, he could drop a multi-platinum album tomorrow with Suge Executive Producing and all these newer artists would sit and watch in complete shock and awe --


Peeps need to stop living in 1994 tbh. If 2Pac was alive today he probably wouldn't sell shit either. There's plenty of legends who are still alive and releasing music nowadays and it all goes copper. The market's changed with the years, the artists themselves change with the years, hip-hop has changed too (going forwards or backwards is discussable).

If people want to play pretend that this and that artist who was alive in the 90s will DEFINITELY be writing similar lyrics, discussing similar topics or even have the same mindset 20 years later, then so be it. To me, that's just delusional.

sometimes i think most these people in this forum are delusional i agree 100% with what you said

When pac died, suge went to jail, death row got dropped by interscope -- then the media blackballed the west and went to dmx, fat joe, busta rhymes, shyne, mase, mystikal, puffy... it changed the entire scope of the game goin from East vs West encouraged by media to puffy dancing in space suits and will smith gettin jiggy wit it -- so i have to say pac dieing killed pretty much the whole west at that time not named dre, snoop,or  xzibit

And the west kept delaying their albums because the East was on fire early 2000s, media was giving them the push and they had taken over all the dance hits...then 50, nas, dmx, cassidy, fat joe, ja rule, and jay-z all kept coming and they set the standard with the media -- if Pac never died, he might have ran the East with Death Row East and the West artists prob wouldve dropped  albums -- we wouldve got Crooked I and Dr Dre Detox -- but any artist not named Game wasnt getting spins, and Dre and Suge had cold feet about the West -- Dre was busy makin Eminem money and Dre never reunited with Suge, which wouldve helped but prob not the savier -- a lot of things changed is my point after pac

the west didn't get blackballed moron people just got tired of the redundant gangsta rap and that's what most of the west was doing at the time that's why they all failed after 2pac cause no one care anymore times were changing new artists were coming out and the east pretty much took over till the south came in and took total control cause again people wanted something different not the same o redundant gangsta rap Crooked I was and still is a nobody good artist but hes boring there was no Dr Dre Detox there was the aftermath album which failed again due to people moving on the people became interested again when 2001 came out and then afterward when the game came out cause he was a west coast guy who sounded east and different and connected well with the people that's why hes successful even today even tho  Kurupt was there he was still considered a nobody and then you got kdot

why in the fuck would Dre reunited with Suge?

I dont think you know what you're talkin about -- The whole media was against the West and they had no Major pushing records -- The Interscope pullout on Death Row hurt because they didn't just pullout but they went AGAINST Death Row who was the whole West -- and then Dre was slow to release records -- media was on that Nas vs. Jay-z -- and you had Young Gunz with "betta luv", Cassidy came out with R Kelly and "Get No Betta", Fat Joe droppin shit allover, Ja RUle, 50 Cent ft. Lil Kim "Magic Stick" -- that's the type of shit they were rollin with and it was HOT and they shut the WEST out completely -- if you were the dopest artist at that time (EASTWOOD is a sick rapper) you were shutout -- Even E-40 who is a HUGE MONSTER in the Rap Game today was struggling for airplay outside of CA -- to ignore that would be like you need to be fitted for a Dunce cap!

i would shut the west down too if the same music kept coming out people wanted change and that shit in the east was something different at the time
not to take away from these two artist
 EASTWOOD is a nobody
E-40 has some name value but outside of cali is a nobody

music is like a evolution you cant keep having the same shit it always evolves just like the mumble clone rap today it will die too that shit in the west was just a trend but you too stuck in the past to realize that gangsta rap and gfunk had its run time to let it go its been dead for a very very very very very very very long time and its never coming back :D

E-40 is A MONSTER -- he has a Commercial for BEATS -- Draymond Green rolls with him and points him out in his interviews -- He's mentioned everytime NBA on TNT is on they point him out and go "there's E-40 sitting up there" at the Warriors Games -- his 4 part CD release and on Da Corner that shit is HOT HOT -- he had the #1 Song in the Entire Country for the YEAR "I Don't Fuck Wit U" -- that was a MONSTER hit from Florida to New York to Texas to California -- He's had hits in EVERY ERA -- the Baka Boyz are syndicated and they play his shit ALL the time!  E-40 is the HUGEST Rapper on the WEST right now next to Kendrick Lamar and Game from a Mainstream perspective

Eastwood, who he knows E-40 by the way [they know each other], didn't have luck with distribution and maybe that is or isn't his fault but you're going to tell me this guy can't spit fire man, you wouldn't have all these cats working with him -- he's a real rare oddity

I respect your view you like to hear rap music change, but I Disagree -- RAP should stay in it's Early 90's form and maybe some modern beats -- the 90's had all the lyrical spitters, now it's mostly Beats taking it over -- I'd rather it just stay the same, that's the reason 90% of this forum comes on here is to hear the Death Row stuff and 90's rappers -- there's a reason why Rap is like a Flat Tire now -- you have Migos and DRake... what else is happening in Rap? Yeah Wayne is around -- this is why E-40 is still relevant in today's game because there's no competition and no platform for new rappers -- there's been no new cats to storm the scene hard in the past 8 years

everything you said is irrelevant again not taking away from e40 but everything you said is old 

his 4 part CD release and on Da Corner is mostly fillers
I Don't Fuck Wit U is not a e40 song was wasn't popular cause he was on it
the Baka Boyz never heard of them but its they based in cali "go figure"
e40 is not the biggest rapper from cali next to kdot

and if for example tech n9ne and e40 and kdot were all to do separated tours around the usa kdot and tech n9ne tours will sell out e40 will be only sell out if it was in cali maybe but outside of cali no way


Eastwood failed cause hes a nobody and there's no money in nobodies

theres way more then just Migos and DRake i hardly doubt you from the usa so of course you gonna be stuck in the 90s cause no one is listening to old 90s music that's just facts my friend all you know is who people talk about
 

SuperSpider

Re: What happens to Deathrow catalogue
« Reply #51 on: February 06, 2017, 07:07:44 AM »
E-40 is A MONSTER -- he has a Commercial ear for BEATS.  
...
This is why E-40 is still relevant in today's game


You answered your own question as to why E-40 is still popular among people that haven't discovered him 20+ or 10+ years ago. There's a reason why he doesn't do tours alone.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2017, 07:11:44 AM by SuperSpider »
 

love33

Re: What happens to Deathrow catalogue
« Reply #52 on: February 07, 2017, 12:20:51 AM »
If 2Pac was alive, he could drop a multi-platinum album tomorrow with Suge Executive Producing and all these newer artists would sit and watch in complete shock and awe --


Peeps need to stop living in 1994 tbh. If 2Pac was alive today he probably wouldn't sell shit either. There's plenty of legends who are still alive and releasing music nowadays and it all goes copper. The market's changed with the years, the artists themselves change with the years, hip-hop has changed too (going forwards or backwards is discussable).

If people want to play pretend that this and that artist who was alive in the 90s will DEFINITELY be writing similar lyrics, discussing similar topics or even have the same mindset 20 years later, then so be it. To me, that's just delusional.

sometimes i think most these people in this forum are delusional i agree 100% with what you said

When pac died, suge went to jail, death row got dropped by interscope -- then the media blackballed the west and went to dmx, fat joe, busta rhymes, shyne, mase, mystikal, puffy... it changed the entire scope of the game goin from East vs West encouraged by media to puffy dancing in space suits and will smith gettin jiggy wit it -- so i have to say pac dieing killed pretty much the whole west at that time not named dre, snoop,or  xzibit

And the west kept delaying their albums because the East was on fire early 2000s, media was giving them the push and they had taken over all the dance hits...then 50, nas, dmx, cassidy, fat joe, ja rule, and jay-z all kept coming and they set the standard with the media -- if Pac never died, he might have ran the East with Death Row East and the West artists prob wouldve dropped  albums -- we wouldve got Crooked I and Dr Dre Detox -- but any artist not named Game wasnt getting spins, and Dre and Suge had cold feet about the West -- Dre was busy makin Eminem money and Dre never reunited with Suge, which wouldve helped but prob not the savier -- a lot of things changed is my point after pac

the west didn't get blackballed moron people just got tired of the redundant gangsta rap and that's what most of the west was doing at the time that's why they all failed after 2pac cause no one care anymore times were changing new artists were coming out and the east pretty much took over till the south came in and took total control cause again people wanted something different not the same o redundant gangsta rap Crooked I was and still is a nobody good artist but hes boring there was no Dr Dre Detox there was the aftermath album which failed again due to people moving on the people became interested again when 2001 came out and then afterward when the game came out cause he was a west coast guy who sounded east and different and connected well with the people that's why hes successful even today even tho  Kurupt was there he was still considered a nobody and then you got kdot

why in the fuck would Dre reunited with Suge?

I dont think you know what you're talkin about -- The whole media was against the West and they had no Major pushing records -- The Interscope pullout on Death Row hurt because they didn't just pullout but they went AGAINST Death Row who was the whole West -- and then Dre was slow to release records -- media was on that Nas vs. Jay-z -- and you had Young Gunz with "betta luv", Cassidy came out with R Kelly and "Get No Betta", Fat Joe droppin shit allover, Ja RUle, 50 Cent ft. Lil Kim "Magic Stick" -- that's the type of shit they were rollin with and it was HOT and they shut the WEST out completely -- if you were the dopest artist at that time (EASTWOOD is a sick rapper) you were shutout -- Even E-40 who is a HUGE MONSTER in the Rap Game today was struggling for airplay outside of CA -- to ignore that would be like you need to be fitted for a Dunce cap!

i would shut the west down too if the same music kept coming out people wanted change and that shit in the east was something different at the time
not to take away from these two artist
 EASTWOOD is a nobody
E-40 has some name value but outside of cali is a nobody

music is like a evolution you cant keep having the same shit it always evolves just like the mumble clone rap today it will die too that shit in the west was just a trend but you too stuck in the past to realize that gangsta rap and gfunk had its run time to let it go its been dead for a very very very very very very very long time and its never coming back :D

E-40 is A MONSTER -- he has a Commercial for BEATS -- Draymond Green rolls with him and points him out in his interviews -- He's mentioned everytime NBA on TNT is on they point him out and go "there's E-40 sitting up there" at the Warriors Games -- his 4 part CD release and on Da Corner that shit is HOT HOT -- he had the #1 Song in the Entire Country for the YEAR "I Don't Fuck Wit U" -- that was a MONSTER hit from Florida to New York to Texas to California -- He's had hits in EVERY ERA -- the Baka Boyz are syndicated and they play his shit ALL the time!  E-40 is the HUGEST Rapper on the WEST right now next to Kendrick Lamar and Game from a Mainstream perspective

Eastwood, who he knows E-40 by the way [they know each other], didn't have luck with distribution and maybe that is or isn't his fault but you're going to tell me this guy can't spit fire man, you wouldn't have all these cats working with him -- he's a real rare oddity

I respect your view you like to hear rap music change, but I Disagree -- RAP should stay in it's Early 90's form and maybe some modern beats -- the 90's had all the lyrical spitters, now it's mostly Beats taking it over -- I'd rather it just stay the same, that's the reason 90% of this forum comes on here is to hear the Death Row stuff and 90's rappers -- there's a reason why Rap is like a Flat Tire now -- you have Migos and DRake... what else is happening in Rap? Yeah Wayne is around -- this is why E-40 is still relevant in today's game because there's no competition and no platform for new rappers -- there's been no new cats to storm the scene hard in the past 8 years

everything you said is irrelevant again not taking away from e40 but everything you said is old 

his 4 part CD release and on Da Corner is mostly fillers
I Don't Fuck Wit U is not a e40 song was wasn't popular cause he was on it
the Baka Boyz never heard of them but its they based in cali "go figure"
e40 is not the biggest rapper from cali next to kdot

and if for example tech n9ne and e40 and kdot were all to do separated tours around the usa kdot and tech n9ne tours will sell out e40 will be only sell out if it was in cali maybe but outside of cali no way


Eastwood failed cause hes a nobody and there's no money in nobodies

theres way more then just Migos and DRake i hardly doubt you from the usa so of course you gonna be stuck in the 90s cause no one is listening to old 90s music that's just facts my friend all you know is who people talk about

I'm from FL homie and used to live in San Diego -- and if you were in the USA you would know who E-40 is because his shit is played at every single night club -- even his track with Akon still gets play in the clubs -- he's HUGE and "I Don't Fuck Wit U" is a 40 track (even though he's featured, he's got publishing rights on it so it's his shit too!) -- How many rappers can say they were on the #1 song on the Hip Hop charts for an ENTIRE YEAR ("IDFWU") -- Everyone knows who E-40 is he gets mad mentions on TNT and he's on commercials

I never said shit about KDOT, don't know where that came from?

Eastwood is a SICK Rapper -- ANYONE who makes the Death Row and No Limit ROSTER is in a select category of Talent -- people like E-40 and Ja Rule wouldn't have fucked with him and done music if he wasn't sick -- Eastwood's No Limit Shit, some of it is tight -- when you got legends like Master P giving you mad props, you know you're a sick rapper -- he just came out a little late and Tha Row didn't put the energy and money behind him as he sat behind Top Dogg, then Tha Realest, then Crooked I -- (him and Crooked were sick on tracks together and had a great chemistry) -- No promotion $$ = No sales - It's pretty simple for ANY business, if you don't advertise, you won't make any money

 

SuperSpider

Re: What happens to Deathrow catalogue
« Reply #53 on: February 07, 2017, 12:31:00 AM »


I hadn't listened to anything Eastwood has put out for a looooong time and especially after listening to the first garbage verse then the garbage hook and P being average as always I didn't have high hopes, but Eastwood actually came correct.