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Re: Was Streetz is a Mutha a near Classic?
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2017, 06:01:08 PM »
Bad Azz's first album was good but it wasn't a classic.


Classic to me

Soopafly first album too

I'd love to see your classics list. I wrote one, I was very tough, and I still had like 60 albums. And I didn't put in a lot of ones you thought I should, which would have put it at like 100. So I'd like to see yours.

If you had 60 classic albums than your grading scale is to easy

I got shit for being too hard and leaving out a number of albums. Honestly, I think Hip-Hop's grading scale is too easy. People are like, they need 3 classics before they get GOAT conversations. Like seriously, 3 classics! Hip-Hop gives out classic labels too easy. Almost every mainstream rapper that is somewhat big gets a classic album. Maybe we need to stop using the word classic and start talking about how artist have their trademark album, or they have their own masterpiece album. Because the word classic gets thrown around a lot. Looking at the list, it's actually 58, I could take out a lot and be happy with the list, the more I think about it. Like here would be the list....

1.   Kurtis Blow - Kurtis Blow - 1980
2.   Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five - The Message -1982
3.   Wild Style Original Soundtrack - 1983
4.   Run-DMC - Run DMC - 1984
5.   Boogie Down Production - Criminal Minded - 1987
6.   Eric B. & Rakim - Paid in Full - 1987
7.   Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back - 1988
8.   N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton - 1988
9.   A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory - 1991
10.   Dr. Dre - The Chronic - 1992
11.   Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) - 1993
12.   Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle - 1993
13.   Nas - Illmatic - 1994
14.   The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die - 1994
15.   2Pac - Me Against the World - 1995
16.   Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill - 1998
17.   Dr. Dre - 2001 - 1999
18.   Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP - 2000
19.   Jay-Z - The Blueprint - 2001
20.   Nas - Stillmatic - 2001
21.   Kanye West - College Dropout - 2004
22.   Kendrick Lamar - Good Kid, m.A.A.d. City - 2012
23.   Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly - 2015

Forget what I'm missing, what else can we cut.


To me, classic is only about quality of music .. Impact etc doesn't mean shit to me, because I don't give a shit what other people think. Most people are stupid as fuck. If it slaps front to back with no filler and I can play it every day of my life, it's a classic.

The what are classic albums to you. Like to me, I have Streetz Iz A Mutha as a personal and street classic. But I don't consider it a straight Hip-Hop classic because I can argue about it's weak points and weak songs. Like Represent That GC, which honestly is one of my favorite songs to listen to, even to this day, where he raps the same words over and over and has maybe the most simple bars I've heard from Kurupt. So to me, it's a solid album, but not really a classic.

Lol @ Kendrick having two classics but not dogg food, and not a single Bay Area album .... You're a funny guy.

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Re: Was Streetz is a Mutha a near Classic?
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2017, 07:34:04 PM »
Bad Azz's first album was good but it wasn't a classic.


Classic to me

Soopafly first album too

I'd love to see your classics list. I wrote one, I was very tough, and I still had like 60 albums. And I didn't put in a lot of ones you thought I should, which would have put it at like 100. So I'd like to see yours.

If you had 60 classic albums than your grading scale is to easy

I got shit for being too hard and leaving out a number of albums. Honestly, I think Hip-Hop's grading scale is too easy. People are like, they need 3 classics before they get GOAT conversations. Like seriously, 3 classics! Hip-Hop gives out classic labels too easy. Almost every mainstream rapper that is somewhat big gets a classic album. Maybe we need to stop using the word classic and start talking about how artist have their trademark album, or they have their own masterpiece album. Because the word classic gets thrown around a lot. Looking at the list, it's actually 58, I could take out a lot and be happy with the list, the more I think about it. Like here would be the list....

1.   Kurtis Blow - Kurtis Blow - 1980
2.   Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five - The Message -1982
3.   Wild Style Original Soundtrack - 1983
4.   Run-DMC - Run DMC - 1984
5.   Boogie Down Production - Criminal Minded - 1987
6.   Eric B. & Rakim - Paid in Full - 1987
7.   Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back - 1988
8.   N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton - 1988
9.   A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory - 1991
10.   Dr. Dre - The Chronic - 1992
11.   Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) - 1993
12.   Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle - 1993
13.   Nas - Illmatic - 1994
14.   The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die - 1994
15.   2Pac - Me Against the World - 1995
16.   Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill - 1998
17.   Dr. Dre - 2001 - 1999
18.   Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP - 2000
19.   Jay-Z - The Blueprint - 2001
20.   Nas - Stillmatic - 2001
21.   Kanye West - College Dropout - 2004
22.   Kendrick Lamar - Good Kid, m.A.A.d. City - 2012
23.   Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly - 2015


Forget what I'm missing, what else can we cut.


To me, classic is only about quality of music .. Impact etc doesn't mean shit to me, because I don't give a shit what other people think. Most people are stupid as fuck. If it slaps front to back with no filler and I can play it every day of my life, it's a classic.

The what are classic albums to you. Like to me, I have Streetz Iz A Mutha as a personal and street classic. But I don't consider it a straight Hip-Hop classic because I can argue about it's weak points and weak songs. Like Represent That GC, which honestly is one of my favorite songs to listen to, even to this day, where he raps the same words over and over and has maybe the most simple bars I've heard from Kurupt. So to me, it's a solid album, but not really a classic.

Lol @ Kendrick having two classics but not dogg food, and not a single Bay Area album .... You're a funny guy.

We can take off Kendrick if you want. As I said, I'm more for getting rid of classics, not adding them. In Hip Hop, the word classic is over played.
 

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Re: Was Streetz is a Mutha a near Classic?
« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2017, 08:52:25 PM »
Bad Azz's first album was good but it wasn't a classic.


Classic to me

Soopafly first album too

I'd love to see your classics list. I wrote one, I was very tough, and I still had like 60 albums. And I didn't put in a lot of ones you thought I should, which would have put it at like 100. So I'd like to see yours.

If you had 60 classic albums than your grading scale is to easy

I got shit for being too hard and leaving out a number of albums. Honestly, I think Hip-Hop's grading scale is too easy. People are like, they need 3 classics before they get GOAT conversations. Like seriously, 3 classics! Hip-Hop gives out classic labels too easy. Almost every mainstream rapper that is somewhat big gets a classic album. Maybe we need to stop using the word classic and start talking about how artist have their trademark album, or they have their own masterpiece album. Because the word classic gets thrown around a lot. Looking at the list, it's actually 58, I could take out a lot and be happy with the list, the more I think about it. Like here would be the list....

1.   Kurtis Blow - Kurtis Blow - 1980
2.   Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five - The Message -1982
3.   Wild Style Original Soundtrack - 1983
4.   Run-DMC - Run DMC - 1984
5.   Boogie Down Production - Criminal Minded - 1987
6.   Eric B. & Rakim - Paid in Full - 1987
7.   Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back - 1988
8.   N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton - 1988
9.   A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory - 1991
10.   Dr. Dre - The Chronic - 1992
11.   Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) - 1993
12.   Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle - 1993
13.   Nas - Illmatic - 1994
14.   The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die - 1994
15.   2Pac - Me Against the World - 1995
16.   Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill - 1998
17.   Dr. Dre - 2001 - 1999
18.   Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP - 2000
19.   Jay-Z - The Blueprint - 2001
20.   Nas - Stillmatic - 2001
21.   Kanye West - College Dropout - 2004
22.   Kendrick Lamar - Good Kid, m.A.A.d. City - 2012
23.   Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly - 2015


Forget what I'm missing, what else can we cut.


To me, classic is only about quality of music .. Impact etc doesn't mean shit to me, because I don't give a shit what other people think. Most people are stupid as fuck. If it slaps front to back with no filler and I can play it every day of my life, it's a classic.

The what are classic albums to you. Like to me, I have Streetz Iz A Mutha as a personal and street classic. But I don't consider it a straight Hip-Hop classic because I can argue about it's weak points and weak songs. Like Represent That GC, which honestly is one of my favorite songs to listen to, even to this day, where he raps the same words over and over and has maybe the most simple bars I've heard from Kurupt. So to me, it's a solid album, but not really a classic.

Lol @ Kendrick having two classics but not dogg food, and not a single Bay Area album .... You're a funny guy.

We can take off Kendrick if you want. As I said, I'm more for getting rid of classics, not adding them. In Hip Hop, the word classic is over played.

A classic list without one bay album is a joke. Matter of fact, everything u got is either east or west .. this is almost as bad as when u said lebron could beat MJ 1-on-1

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Re: Was Streetz is a Mutha a near Classic?
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2017, 10:35:16 PM »


The what are classic albums to you. Like to me, I have Streetz Iz A Mutha as a personal and street classic. But I don't consider it a straight Hip-Hop classic because I can argue about it's weak points and weak songs. Like Represent That GC, which honestly is one of my favorite songs to listen to, even to this day, where he raps the same words over and over and has maybe the most simple bars I've heard from Kurupt. So to me, it's a solid album, but not really a classic.

Yeah "Represent" is fuckin dope.. Especially for you Cali peeps.... And I'd take his "Man what a day/ Sunny Cali-forn-I-A--Bitch Bitch Bitch" lines from that one over the "Homeboy, homeboy, homeboy repitition on "Neva Gone Give It Up"--you know Nate makes "Neva Gonna Give It Up" a banger because in spite of the All-Star cast the lyrics are underwhelming

As for your list I kind of did think it was mostly accurate in an objective sense.  I like that you had Wild Style on there cause I think that was one of the great and important moments in hip-hop's early days.  Really captures all that was great about the early days.

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Re: Was Streetz is a Mutha a near Classic?
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2017, 10:39:27 PM »


A classic list without one bay album.

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Re: Was Streetz is a Mutha a near Classic?
« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2017, 12:06:37 AM »


A classic list without one bay album.

I Zalute you M-Dogg!  Always knew you had good taste

he put 2 kendrick albums and not Dogg food or regulate.....even your dumbass can laugh at that

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Re: Was Streetz is a Mutha a near Classic?
« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2017, 01:45:13 AM »


A classic list without one bay album.

I Zalute you M-Dogg!  Always knew you had good taste

he put 2 kendrick albums and not Dogg food or regulate.....even your dumbass can laugh at that

Even though I like Dogg Food and Regulate G Funk Era way better, it terms of impact, both Kendrick solos defined a new era of good Hip-Hop
 

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Re: Was Streetz is a Mutha a near Classic?
« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2017, 02:36:28 AM »


A classic list without one bay album.

I Zalute you M-Dogg!  Always knew you had good taste

he put 2 kendrick albums and not Dogg food or regulate.....even your dumbass can laugh at that

Even though I like Dogg Food and Regulate G Funk Era way better, it terms of impact, both Kendrick solos defined a new era of good Hip-Hop

lol regulate helped define g-funk, the staple sound during the golden era of hip-hop....dogg food was pivotal in the east/west beef, knocking them buildins down in the ny ny video, that album was monumental for the coast n helped set shit on fire. kendrick lamar is dope, but his shit don't compare.

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Re: Was Streetz is a Mutha a near Classic?
« Reply #38 on: February 21, 2017, 09:25:33 AM »


A classic list without one bay album.

I Zalute you M-Dogg!  Always knew you had good taste

he put 2 kendrick albums and not Dogg food or regulate.....even your dumbass can laugh at that

Damn MDogg what the fuck?? You makin me eat my words with Sccit...
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Re: Was Streetz is a Mutha a near Classic?
« Reply #39 on: February 21, 2017, 09:44:07 AM »


A classic list without one bay album.

I Zalute you M-Dogg!  Always knew you had good taste

he put 2 kendrick albums and not Dogg food or regulate.....even your dumbass can laugh at that

Even though I like Dogg Food and Regulate G Funk Era way better, it terms of impact, both Kendrick solos defined a new era of good Hip-Hop

lol regulate helped define g-funk, the staple sound during the golden era of hip-hop....dogg food was pivotal in the east/west beef, knocking them buildins down in the ny ny video, that album was monumental for the coast n helped set shit on fire. kendrick lamar is dope, but his shit don't compare.

and pretty much their Career highlight which was over 20 years ago :laugh:
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Re: Was Streetz is a Mutha a near Classic?
« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2017, 10:44:27 AM »


A classic list without one bay album.

I Zalute you M-Dogg!  Always knew you had good taste

he put 2 kendrick albums and not Dogg food or regulate.....even your dumbass can laugh at that

Damn MDogg what the fuck?? You makin me eat my words with Sccit...


So now no Kendrick. Dogg Food is not classic, New York, New York as a track is. Regulate... maybe... Along with Life is Too $hort.

Sccit, give me a list of ALL the albums I'm missing. All of them.
 

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Re: Was Streetz is a Mutha a near Classic?
« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2017, 10:52:26 AM »


A classic list without one bay album.

I Zalute you M-Dogg!  Always knew you had good taste

he put 2 kendrick albums and not Dogg food or regulate.....even your dumbass can laugh at that

Even though I like Dogg Food and Regulate G Funk Era way better, it terms of impact, both Kendrick solos defined a new era of good Hip-Hop

lol regulate helped define g-funk

No The Chronic did
 

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Re: Was Streetz is a Mutha a near Classic?
« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2017, 10:54:19 AM »


A classic list without one bay album.

I Zalute you M-Dogg!  Always knew you had good taste

he put 2 kendrick albums and not Dogg food or regulate.....even your dumbass can laugh at that

Even though I like Dogg Food and Regulate G Funk Era way better, it terms of impact, both Kendrick solos defined a new era of good Hip-Hop

lol regulate helped define g-funk, the staple sound during the golden era of hip-hop....dogg food was pivotal in the east/west beef, knocking them buildins down in the ny ny video, that album was monumental for the coast n helped set shit on fire. kendrick lamar is dope, but his shit don't compare.

Agree with you on Regulate, that album should be considered a classic.

Don't get me wrong, Dogg Food is an awesome album, but I don't think it's a classic.  As much as I wish it was, I just don't see it.  I bought that album the day it came out, and it did not give off the vibe to me of igniting an eastcoast/westcoast beef.  Before the video for NY, NY came out, it didn't seem like a dis song to me at all.  All Eyez On Me was the first release I really noticed putting a line in the sand between coasts.    
 

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Re: Was Streetz is a Mutha a near Classic?
« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2017, 11:04:17 AM »


A classic list without one bay album.

I Zalute you M-Dogg!  Always knew you had good taste

he put 2 kendrick albums and not Dogg food or regulate.....even your dumbass can laugh at that

Even though I like Dogg Food and Regulate G Funk Era way better, it terms of impact, both Kendrick solos defined a new era of good Hip-Hop

lol regulate helped define g-funk

No The Chronic did

The chronic is a completely different sound than regulate

Dogg Ly Dogg

Re: Was Streetz is a Mutha a near Classic?
« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2017, 10:58:26 PM »


A classic list without one bay album.

I Zalute you M-Dogg!  Always knew you had good taste

he put 2 kendrick albums and not Dogg food or regulate.....even your dumbass can laugh at that

Even though I like Dogg Food and Regulate G Funk Era way better, it terms of impact, both Kendrick solos defined a new era of good Hip-Hop

lol regulate helped define g-funk

No The Chronic did

The chronic is a completely different sound than regulate

I agree but to me Chronic defined the genre, Regulate perfected it to the sound we all know and like imo