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Re: KYRIE IRVING REQUESTED A TRADE BECAUSE LEBRON JAMES HINDERS TEAMMATES
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2017, 05:45:30 PM »
lololol what a spin. It got too old to argue you trolling, I'm sorry fam. smh.
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Re: KYRIE IRVING REQUESTED A TRADE BECAUSE LEBRON JAMES HINDERS TEAMMATES
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2017, 06:58:15 PM »
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Re: KYRIE IRVING REQUESTED A TRADE BECAUSE LEBRON JAMES HINDERS TEAMMATES
« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2017, 05:07:33 PM »
Na, you just tried to pass your INSANELY biased opinion as a fact. & it's so skewed. Like Bosh & Wade > Shaq? What? The rest of the Lakers minus Kobe >>>> The rest of the Heat minus LeBron, dumbass.

Won with Gasol? What? Best roster in the league is best roster in the league. Lakers had that 5 times in the 2000's & won every time.

Comparing rosters doesn't mean anything. Especially when the league has dramatically changed since Kobe won. By that standard, Dirk's 1 was more impressive than all of Kobe's 5. :stupid:
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Re: KYRIE IRVING REQUESTED A TRADE BECAUSE LEBRON JAMES HINDERS TEAMMATES
« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2017, 05:24:31 PM »
Na, you just tried to pass your INSANELY biased opinion as a fact. & it's so skewed. Like Bosh & Wade > Shaq? What? The rest of the Lakers minus Kobe >>>> The rest of the Heat minus LeBron, dumbass.

Won with Gasol? What? Best roster in the league is best roster in the league. Lakers had that 5 times in the 2000's & won every time.

Comparing rosters doesn't mean anything. Especially when the league has dramatically changed since Kobe won. By that standard, Dirk's 1 was more impressive than all of Kobe's 5. :stupid:

best roster in the league because kobe was on it .. u take kobe off that roster and it's a 15 win team out west lmao

the shaq teams was kobe shaq n a buncha role players not like lebron teams of lebron, wade, bosh, ray allen rof .. cmon now

we all know it never took kobe a superteam to win, so sit down.

in fact, kobe NEVER needed more than 1 all star .. lebron ALWAYS did. that's the difference.

dirks 1 was incredibly impressive too. way more than any of lebron's, for sure.


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Re: KYRIE IRVING REQUESTED A TRADE BECAUSE LEBRON JAMES HINDERS TEAMMATES
« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2017, 05:42:08 PM »
But he practically had a superteam for the first threepeat. Hands down a better roster than the rest of the league.

He wasn't competing against anyone but the Kings & he was the second best player on the team.

& he really didn't need one with Gasol because the NBA was garbage outside of Boston & LeBron trying to claw his way to the Finals with less help than any champion known to date.
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Re: KYRIE IRVING REQUESTED A TRADE BECAUSE LEBRON JAMES HINDERS TEAMMATES
« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2017, 07:05:30 PM »
But he practically had a superteam for the first threepeat. Hands down a better roster than the rest of the league.

He wasn't competing against anyone but the Kings & he was the second best player on the team.

& he really didn't need one with Gasol because the NBA was garbage outside of Boston & LeBron trying to claw his way to the Finals with less help than any champion known to date.


lol @ shaq+kobe and a buncha role players being a "superteam" .. again, the roster was the best in the league largely in part to kobe ..you take kobe out the equation and them shaq teams is 1st round exits with horry as the second option lmao. on the contrary, webber, peja, bibby, divac, turkoglu was all all-star caliber players.

but you weren't alive back then, so it's not a shocker that u telling it through your revisionist goggles.
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Re: KYRIE IRVING REQUESTED A TRADE BECAUSE LEBRON JAMES HINDERS TEAMMATES
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2017, 08:34:10 AM »
I never knew a starting lineup of Fisher, Fox and Horry were a super team. I guess you can argue the 2000 team was a super-team, maybe, when you add a washed up Harper, Green and Glen Rice. I mean at least Rice, Harper and Green made at least 1 all star game apiece. Fisher, Fox and Horry at best won all-rookie second team (Fox and Horry). But none of them were all-stars, none of them on any all-NBA team, and none of them won any accolades outside of winning titles. They were solid role players, which every team has.

I do disagree that without Kobe the Lakers are first round exits. Shaq was in his most dominate in 2000. If you replace Kobe with say, Eddie Jones, the Lakers win 1 title and that's ini 2000. 2001 and 20002 though, they don't make it out the second round. 2001 was that one year, ONE YEAR, which both Kobe and Shaq were in their prime together, and they DOMINATED the west. But without Kobe hitting his prime, and say JR Rider is the starting SG, the Lakers get bounced in the 2nd round by the Spurs. In 2002, well, see 2002 Sac. Kings. So without Kobe, Shaq wins 1 title in LA. But that's also assuming he has Rice, Harper and Green with him, who all were former all-stars but past their prime. But you can argue Kobe saved Shaq in 2000 in the conference finals against the Blazers. I still think LA pulls it off, even if you had an Eddie Jones (who wouldn't be traded because they had Kobe).
 

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« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2017, 08:44:04 AM »
I never knew a starting lineup of Fisher, Fox and Horry were a super team. I guess you can argue the 2000 team was a super-team, maybe, when you add a washed up Harper, Green and Glen Rice. I mean at least Rice, Harper and Green made at least 1 all star game apiece. Fisher, Fox and Horry at best won all-rookie second team (Fox and Horry). But none of them were all-stars, none of them on any all-NBA team, and none of them won any accolades outside of winning titles. They were solid role players, which every team has.

I do disagree that without Kobe the Lakers are first round exits. Shaq was in his most dominate in 2000. If you replace Kobe with say, Eddie Jones, the Lakers win 1 title and that's ini 2000. 2001 and 20002 though, they don't make it out the second round. 2001 was that one year, ONE YEAR, which both Kobe and Shaq were in their prime together, and they DOMINATED the west. But without Kobe hitting his prime, and say JR Rider is the starting SG, the Lakers get bounced in the 2nd round by the Spurs. In 2002, well, see 2002 Sac. Kings. So without Kobe, Shaq wins 1 title in LA. But that's also assuming he has Rice, Harper and Green with him, who all were former all-stars but past their prime. But you can argue Kobe saved Shaq in 2000 in the conference finals against the Blazers. I still think LA pulls it off, even if you had an Eddie Jones (who wouldn't be traded because they had Kobe).

at this point, cham just throwin shit at the wall to see what sticks

and no, shaq is not winning ANY titles wit eddie jones lmfao .. it took some down to the wire game 7s wit kobe closing to even reach the finals. lmao@thinking portland comeback in game 7 happens wit eddie jones instead of kobe. lakers got nowhere with eddie jones/before kobe developed into a superstar. i know u tryna throw cham a crutch here, but cmon now. 
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Re: KYRIE IRVING REQUESTED A TRADE BECAUSE LEBRON JAMES HINDERS TEAMMATES
« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2017, 02:04:46 PM »
I never knew a starting lineup of Fisher, Fox and Horry were a super team. I guess you can argue the 2000 team was a super-team, maybe, when you add a washed up Harper, Green and Glen Rice. I mean at least Rice, Harper and Green made at least 1 all star game apiece. Fisher, Fox and Horry at best won all-rookie second team (Fox and Horry). But none of them were all-stars, none of them on any all-NBA team, and none of them won any accolades outside of winning titles. They were solid role players, which every team has.

I do disagree that without Kobe the Lakers are first round exits. Shaq was in his most dominate in 2000. If you replace Kobe with say, Eddie Jones, the Lakers win 1 title and that's ini 2000. 2001 and 20002 though, they don't make it out the second round. 2001 was that one year, ONE YEAR, which both Kobe and Shaq were in their prime together, and they DOMINATED the west. But without Kobe hitting his prime, and say JR Rider is the starting SG, the Lakers get bounced in the 2nd round by the Spurs. In 2002, well, see 2002 Sac. Kings. So without Kobe, Shaq wins 1 title in LA. But that's also assuming he has Rice, Harper and Green with him, who all were former all-stars but past their prime. But you can argue Kobe saved Shaq in 2000 in the conference finals against the Blazers. I still think LA pulls it off, even if you had an Eddie Jones (who wouldn't be traded because they had Kobe).

at this point, cham just throwin shit at the wall to see what sticks

and no, shaq is not winning ANY titles wit eddie jones lmfao .. it took some down to the wire game 7s wit kobe closing to even reach the finals. lmao@thinking portland comeback in game 7 happens wit eddie jones instead of kobe. lakers got nowhere with eddie jones/before kobe developed into a superstar. i know u tryna throw cham a crutch here, but cmon now.

It's more riding for Shaq, you know I was on Shaq's side during that whole mess. I think he gets one title. And 2000 was just so good.
 

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Re: KYRIE IRVING REQUESTED A TRADE BECAUSE LEBRON JAMES HINDERS TEAMMATES
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2017, 07:59:38 PM »
I never knew a starting lineup of Fisher, Fox and Horry were a super team. I guess you can argue the 2000 team was a super-team, maybe, when you add a washed up Harper, Green and Glen Rice. I mean at least Rice, Harper and Green made at least 1 all star game apiece. Fisher, Fox and Horry at best won all-rookie second team (Fox and Horry). But none of them were all-stars, none of them on any all-NBA team, and none of them won any accolades outside of winning titles. They were solid role players, which every team has.

I do disagree that without Kobe the Lakers are first round exits. Shaq was in his most dominate in 2000. If you replace Kobe with say, Eddie Jones, the Lakers win 1 title and that's ini 2000. 2001 and 20002 though, they don't make it out the second round. 2001 was that one year, ONE YEAR, which both Kobe and Shaq were in their prime together, and they DOMINATED the west. But without Kobe hitting his prime, and say JR Rider is the starting SG, the Lakers get bounced in the 2nd round by the Spurs. In 2002, well, see 2002 Sac. Kings. So without Kobe, Shaq wins 1 title in LA. But that's also assuming he has Rice, Harper and Green with him, who all were former all-stars but past their prime. But you can argue Kobe saved Shaq in 2000 in the conference finals against the Blazers. I still think LA pulls it off, even if you had an Eddie Jones (who wouldn't be traded because they had Kobe).

at this point, cham just throwin shit at the wall to see what sticks

and no, shaq is not winning ANY titles wit eddie jones lmfao .. it took some down to the wire game 7s wit kobe closing to even reach the finals. lmao@thinking portland comeback in game 7 happens wit eddie jones instead of kobe. lakers got nowhere with eddie jones/before kobe developed into a superstar. i know u tryna throw cham a crutch here, but cmon now.

It's more riding for Shaq, you know I was on Shaq's side during that whole mess. I think he gets one title. And 2000 was just so good.

naah .. if he ain't gettin one wit penny, he ain't gettin one wit eddie .... portland was too close to taking us out in 2000. kobe was the difference.


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Re: KYRIE IRVING REQUESTED A TRADE BECAUSE LEBRON JAMES HINDERS TEAMMATES
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2017, 09:01:44 AM »
I never knew a starting lineup of Fisher, Fox and Horry were a super team. I guess you can argue the 2000 team was a super-team, maybe, when you add a washed up Harper, Green and Glen Rice. I mean at least Rice, Harper and Green made at least 1 all star game apiece. Fisher, Fox and Horry at best won all-rookie second team (Fox and Horry). But none of them were all-stars, none of them on any all-NBA team, and none of them won any accolades outside of winning titles. They were solid role players, which every team has.

I do disagree that without Kobe the Lakers are first round exits. Shaq was in his most dominate in 2000. If you replace Kobe with say, Eddie Jones, the Lakers win 1 title and that's ini 2000. 2001 and 20002 though, they don't make it out the second round. 2001 was that one year, ONE YEAR, which both Kobe and Shaq were in their prime together, and they DOMINATED the west. But without Kobe hitting his prime, and say JR Rider is the starting SG, the Lakers get bounced in the 2nd round by the Spurs. In 2002, well, see 2002 Sac. Kings. So without Kobe, Shaq wins 1 title in LA. But that's also assuming he has Rice, Harper and Green with him, who all were former all-stars but past their prime. But you can argue Kobe saved Shaq in 2000 in the conference finals against the Blazers. I still think LA pulls it off, even if you had an Eddie Jones (who wouldn't be traded because they had Kobe).

at this point, cham just throwin shit at the wall to see what sticks

and no, shaq is not winning ANY titles wit eddie jones lmfao .. it took some down to the wire game 7s wit kobe closing to even reach the finals. lmao@thinking portland comeback in game 7 happens wit eddie jones instead of kobe. lakers got nowhere with eddie jones/before kobe developed into a superstar. i know u tryna throw cham a crutch here, but cmon now.

It's more riding for Shaq, you know I was on Shaq's side during that whole mess. I think he gets one title. And 2000 was just so good.

naah .. if he ain't gettin one wit penny, he ain't gettin one wit eddie .... portland was too close to taking us out in 2000. kobe was the difference.

Eddie Jones>>Penny Hardaway.

Eddie had a much better non-Shaq career than Penny did. Also, the Lakers still had Rice. The last sentence I did you can argue exactly what you argued. I'd still say that in 2000, the Lakers had something, and especially Shaq, that I think they win the title.
 

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Re: KYRIE IRVING REQUESTED A TRADE BECAUSE LEBRON JAMES HINDERS TEAMMATES
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2017, 09:04:53 AM »
I never knew a starting lineup of Fisher, Fox and Horry were a super team. I guess you can argue the 2000 team was a super-team, maybe, when you add a washed up Harper, Green and Glen Rice. I mean at least Rice, Harper and Green made at least 1 all star game apiece. Fisher, Fox and Horry at best won all-rookie second team (Fox and Horry). But none of them were all-stars, none of them on any all-NBA team, and none of them won any accolades outside of winning titles. They were solid role players, which every team has.

I do disagree that without Kobe the Lakers are first round exits. Shaq was in his most dominate in 2000. If you replace Kobe with say, Eddie Jones, the Lakers win 1 title and that's ini 2000. 2001 and 20002 though, they don't make it out the second round. 2001 was that one year, ONE YEAR, which both Kobe and Shaq were in their prime together, and they DOMINATED the west. But without Kobe hitting his prime, and say JR Rider is the starting SG, the Lakers get bounced in the 2nd round by the Spurs. In 2002, well, see 2002 Sac. Kings. So without Kobe, Shaq wins 1 title in LA. But that's also assuming he has Rice, Harper and Green with him, who all were former all-stars but past their prime. But you can argue Kobe saved Shaq in 2000 in the conference finals against the Blazers. I still think LA pulls it off, even if you had an Eddie Jones (who wouldn't be traded because they had Kobe).

at this point, cham just throwin shit at the wall to see what sticks

and no, shaq is not winning ANY titles wit eddie jones lmfao .. it took some down to the wire game 7s wit kobe closing to even reach the finals. lmao@thinking portland comeback in game 7 happens wit eddie jones instead of kobe. lakers got nowhere with eddie jones/before kobe developed into a superstar. i know u tryna throw cham a crutch here, but cmon now.

It's more riding for Shaq, you know I was on Shaq's side during that whole mess. I think he gets one title. And 2000 was just so good.

naah .. if he ain't gettin one wit penny, he ain't gettin one wit eddie .... portland was too close to taking us out in 2000. kobe was the difference.

Eddie Jones>>Penny Hardaway.

Eddie had a much better non-Shaq career than Penny did. Also, the Lakers still had Rice. The last sentence I did you can argue exactly what you argued. I'd still say that in 2000, the Lakers had something, and especially Shaq, that I think they win the title.

lol i love eddie jones but stop that .. prime for prime, eddie ain't touching penny. and rice was a role player on his last leg by that point. bottom line, 95 magic witout shaq > 2000 lakers witout shaq and kobe.


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Re: KYRIE IRVING REQUESTED A TRADE BECAUSE LEBRON JAMES HINDERS TEAMMATES
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2017, 04:29:36 PM »
You're taking "superteam" out of context (naturally). You're comparing an era where the Warriors have 4 of the best 15 players in the entire league & trying to say "Kobe didn't need all that". I'm saying that Laker team compared to the rest of the league may as well of been a superteam just due to how much better they were than the rest of the league, minus the Kings. & yes Kobe had something to do with it. But Shaq is a potential top 5 player ever. Hands down for that stretch the most dominate center we've seen.

But it's pretty retarded to make that claim "because of Kobe" & not because of Shaq. You just called the rest of the Lakers "a bunch of role players". We saw what Kobe did with "a bunch of role players" when he didn't have the best roster in the NBA behind him. Ballhog, trash, 40 win seasons. Shaq goes to a team with a player who won't have the legacy a 3rd of what Kobe's is & wins a title right before the decline of his prime.
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Re: KYRIE IRVING REQUESTED A TRADE BECAUSE LEBRON JAMES HINDERS TEAMMATES
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2017, 06:34:50 PM »
You're taking "superteam" out of context (naturally). You're comparing an era where the Warriors have 4 of the best 15 players in the entire league & trying to say "Kobe didn't need all that". I'm saying that Laker team compared to the rest of the league may as well of been a superteam just due to how much better they were than the rest of the league, minus the Kings. & yes Kobe had something to do with it. But Shaq is a potential top 5 player ever. Hands down for that stretch the most dominate center we've seen.

But it's pretty retarded to make that claim "because of Kobe" & not because of Shaq. You just called the rest of the Lakers "a bunch of role players". We saw what Kobe did with "a bunch of role players" when he didn't have the best roster in the NBA behind him. Ballhog, trash, 40 win seasons. Shaq goes to a team with a player who won't have the legacy a 3rd of what Kobe's is & wins a title right before the decline of his prime.

wade carried shaq to that title .. shaq wit a buncha role players wouldn't do what kobe did in 06. the fact that he took phoenix to 7 wit that squad is incredible.

but realistically, it was shaq and kobe responsible for the threepeat..shaq+kobe wit a buncha role players. blazers, spurs, kings all had more allstar caliber players.

lebron always had 3 or 4 allstar caliber players on his team. minimum.

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