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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2018, 04:35:59 PM »
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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2018, 05:03:50 PM »
didn't think I'd say this but it's a cool album, it bodies all those frisbees he dropped after The Eminem Show

the only songs I didn't care for were "Normal", "Nice Guy", and "Good Guy"... I could have done without the hooks on "Stepping Stone" and "Not Alike" but the rest I rocked with  8)
 

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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2018, 08:12:55 PM »
didn't think I'd say this but it's a cool album, it bodies all those frisbees he dropped after The Eminem Show

the only songs I didn't care for were "Normal", "Nice Guy", and "Good Guy"... I could have done without the hooks on "Stepping Stone" and "Not Alike" but the rest I rocked with  8)

LOL WHY U BEEN SHITTIN ON MMLP2 SO BAD, U ACTUALLY SAID IT WAS DOPE WHEN IT FIRST DROPPED
 

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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2018, 09:51:08 PM »
didn't think I'd say this but it's a cool album, it bodies all those frisbees he dropped after The Eminem Show

the only songs I didn't care for were "Normal", "Nice Guy", and "Good Guy"... I could have done without the hooks on "Stepping Stone" and "Not Alike" but the rest I rocked with  8)

LOL WHY U BEEN SHITTIN ON MMLP2 SO BAD, U ACTUALLY SAID IT WAS DOPE WHEN IT FIRST DROPPED

back when I heard it for the first time I was probably faded and feeling generous, I just pulled up the tracklist and I honestly can only remember a handful of ok joints now

clearly I don’t recall the rest because it sucked and didn’t hold up lol sure it wasn’t as bad as Relapse, Recovery or Revival but that basically says nothing
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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2018, 05:52:15 AM »
didn't think I'd say this but it's a cool album, it bodies all those frisbees he dropped after The Eminem Show

the only songs I didn't care for were "Normal", "Nice Guy", and "Good Guy"... I could have done without the hooks on "Stepping Stone" and "Not Alike" but the rest I rocked with  8)

LOL WHY U BEEN SHITTIN ON MMLP2 SO BAD, U ACTUALLY SAID IT WAS DOPE WHEN IT FIRST DROPPED

For what it’s worth, I agree with you on MMLP2.  There are a few tracks on there that I skip over, but overall, I thought it was dope. I wouldn’t rank it better than his first three or Relapse, but I would rank it wayyyy better than Encore, Recovery, and Revival.
 

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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2018, 08:34:38 AM »
didn't think I'd say this but it's a cool album, it bodies all those frisbees he dropped after The Eminem Show

the only songs I didn't care for were "Normal", "Nice Guy", and "Good Guy"... I could have done without the hooks on "Stepping Stone" and "Not Alike" but the rest I rocked with  8)

LOL WHY U BEEN SHITTIN ON MMLP2 SO BAD, U ACTUALLY SAID IT WAS DOPE WHEN IT FIRST DROPPED

For what it’s worth, I agree with you on MMLP2.  There are a few tracks on there that I skip over, but overall, I thought it was dope. I wouldn’t rank it better than his first three or Relapse, but I would rank it wayyyy better than Encore, Recovery, and Revival.


exactly
 

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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2018, 02:53:00 PM »
didn't think I'd say this but it's a cool album, it bodies all those frisbees he dropped after The Eminem Show

the only songs I didn't care for were "Normal", "Nice Guy", and "Good Guy"... I could have done without the hooks on "Stepping Stone" and "Not Alike" but the rest I rocked with  8)

LOL WHY U BEEN SHITTIN ON MMLP2 SO BAD, U ACTUALLY SAID IT WAS DOPE WHEN IT FIRST DROPPED

For what it’s worth, I agree with you on MMLP2.  There are a few tracks on there that I skip over, but overall, I thought it was dope. I wouldn’t rank it better than his first three or Relapse, but I would rank it wayyyy better than Encore, Recovery, and Revival.

ranking it above those album is basically saying a solid turd is better than diarrhea lol
 
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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2018, 11:51:36 PM »
On mmlp2 buckshot track is fire.
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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2018, 02:25:39 AM »
didn't think I'd say this but it's a cool album, it bodies all those frisbees he dropped after The Eminem Show

the only songs I didn't care for were "Normal", "Nice Guy", and "Good Guy"... I could have done without the hooks on "Stepping Stone" and "Not Alike" but the rest I rocked with  8)

LOL WHY U BEEN SHITTIN ON MMLP2 SO BAD, U ACTUALLY SAID IT WAS DOPE WHEN IT FIRST DROPPED

For what it’s worth, I agree with you on MMLP2.  There are a few tracks on there that I skip over, but overall, I thought it was dope. I wouldn’t rank it better than his first three or Relapse, but I would rank it wayyyy better than Encore, Recovery, and Revival.

ranking it above those album is basically saying a solid turd is better than diarrhea lol

That’s just how I see it.  I respect that you don’t agree.  I’m not trying to change your mind.  To me, Eminem is as good lyrically, as he’s ever been on MMLP2.  The only place where it falls short, IMO, is some of the production.  I’m not a big fan of most of the Rick Rubin production.  He way overuses the old rock samples.  But that only represents a few tracks on the album.
 

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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2018, 02:30:37 AM »
On mmlp2 buckshot track is fire.

Completely agree!  I wish they had included that track on the disc though or at least made it easier to find.  I remember when the album dropped, I had to search to find it.  I think I found out after the fact that you had to buy both the album and the video game, Call of Duty: Ghosts to get the song (or just find it on the internet, if you were aware that it was out there).
 

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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2018, 12:13:20 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/v/kwhad3hGZmA&feature=youtu.be

Thanks for posting.  It’s interesting to hear what Budden has to say.  I’ve been a Budden fan.  I’m a huge Slaughterhouse fan, and I’ve even enjoyed listening to Budden’s podcast before. But honestly, if he’s going to talk shit on his podcast but not answer back with a proper response in a song and hide behind his retirement, that’s just weak.  To be fair, I don’t think that what Joe Budden originally said about “Revival” was unfair.  But it also seems a little chickenshit to come out on his podcast and say “well, what I really thought the whole time I was signed to Shady was that you sucked.”
 
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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2018, 08:21:23 PM »
didn't think I'd say this but it's a cool album, it bodies all those frisbees he dropped after The Eminem Show

the only songs I didn't care for were "Normal", "Nice Guy", and "Good Guy"... I could have done without the hooks on "Stepping Stone" and "Not Alike" but the rest I rocked with  8)

LOL WHY U BEEN SHITTIN ON MMLP2 SO BAD, U ACTUALLY SAID IT WAS DOPE WHEN IT FIRST DROPPED

For what it’s worth, I agree with you on MMLP2.  There are a few tracks on there that I skip over, but overall, I thought it was dope. I wouldn’t rank it better than his first three or Relapse, but I would rank it wayyyy better than Encore, Recovery, and Revival.

ranking it above those album is basically saying a solid turd is better than diarrhea lol

That’s just how I see it.  I respect that you don’t agree.  I’m not trying to change your mind.  To me, Eminem is as good lyrically, as he’s ever been on MMLP2.  The only place where it falls short, IMO, is some of the production.  I’m not a big fan of most of the Rick Rubin production.  He way overuses the old rock samples.  But that only represents a few tracks on the album.

I respect that, to be fair it's mostly the production I have issues with for that album but some of his flows were kinda meh to me from what I can recall too... "Rap God" has to be one of the most overrated songs in hip-hop history lol also just the mere fact he declared it the sequel to his best work and fell so short

on this Kamikaze album he seems to be back in form and he was snapping on a few joints, I just don't know how much replay value this will have especially with so much other music out
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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2018, 10:05:41 PM »
didn't think I'd say this but it's a cool album, it bodies all those frisbees he dropped after The Eminem Show

the only songs I didn't care for were "Normal", "Nice Guy", and "Good Guy"... I could have done without the hooks on "Stepping Stone" and "Not Alike" but the rest I rocked with  8)

LOL WHY U BEEN SHITTIN ON MMLP2 SO BAD, U ACTUALLY SAID IT WAS DOPE WHEN IT FIRST DROPPED

For what it’s worth, I agree with you on MMLP2.  There are a few tracks on there that I skip over, but overall, I thought it was dope. I wouldn’t rank it better than his first three or Relapse, but I would rank it wayyyy better than Encore, Recovery, and Revival.

ranking it above those album is basically saying a solid turd is better than diarrhea lol

That’s just how I see it.  I respect that you don’t agree.  I’m not trying to change your mind.  To me, Eminem is as good lyrically, as he’s ever been on MMLP2.  The only place where it falls short, IMO, is some of the production.  I’m not a big fan of most of the Rick Rubin production.  He way overuses the old rock samples.  But that only represents a few tracks on the album.

I respect that, to be fair it's mostly the production I have issues with for that album but some of his flows were kinda meh to me from what I can recall too... "Rap God" has to be one of the most overrated songs in hip-hop history lol also just the mere fact he declared it the sequel to his best work and fell so short

on this Kamikaze album he seems to be back in form and he was snapping on a few joints, I just don't know how much replay value this will have especially with so much other music out

Fair point.  Time will tell, regarding how well it holds up.  I think the production on Kamikaze is hit or miss, but I do
appreciate that he did away with all the rock samples on this one.
 

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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #39 on: September 06, 2018, 01:12:40 PM »


lol even I think this dude was a bit harsh on the album, I would have given it at least a 6/10 - 7/10
 

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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #40 on: September 06, 2018, 01:45:50 PM »
good album, best from Em in a long while

the last album I really enjoyed was Relapse, because of the Dre production and from a technical standpoint he was really spitting even with the accents which didn't bother me that much

Recovery he started that yelling flow which I never cared for and it was mostly a pop album
Revival more of the same with even worst songs

MMLP2 just didn't live up to the hype IMO, its not a bad album at all though
 
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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2018, 12:59:44 PM »
Eminem himself admits all his albums after The Eminem Show were trash for the most part lol I respect him for finally admitting the truth

 

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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #42 on: September 13, 2018, 05:49:34 AM »
Really interesting interview.  Looking forward to part 2.  I kind of hate that he goes after “Relapse” as bad as he does, although that has seemed to be his opinion for quite some time now.  I personally have to disagree with Encore being better than Relapse. Yeah, he did do the accents a lot on Relapse, and on the first listen through it did bother me a little. On all subsequent listens though, I don’t notice it.  Or I guess a better way to put it is they just seem to fit the songs. Plus the production on “Relapse” is just so much better than “Encore.”   
 
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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2018, 07:12:42 AM »
Really interesting interview.  Looking forward to part 2.  I kind of hate that he goes after “Relapse” as bad as he does, although that has seemed to be his opinion for quite some time now.  I personally have to disagree with Encore being better th.an Relapse. Yeah, he did do the accents a lot on Relapse, and on the first listen through it did bother me a little. On all subsequent listens though, I don’t notice it.  Or I guess a better way to put it is they just seem to fit the songs. Plus the production on “Relapse” is just so much better than “Encore.”   

yeah I enjoyed Relapse but the accents aren't for everybody. Although by watching the interview he didn't intend it to be what it became

Recovery is just a pop album, not sure why Em regards it so high, no one else does
 

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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #44 on: September 13, 2018, 09:57:32 AM »
Relapse was only good strictly in terms of it as an instrumental album, Encore shits on it in every other way despite it having some pretty horrific joints lol but you had bangers like "Encore" and "Never Enough" which made up for it and those 2 songs alone shit on everything from Relapse, Recovery, MMLP2, Revival, etc.
 

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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #45 on: September 13, 2018, 12:03:49 PM »
relapse, mmlp2 were dope albums .. encore was hit n miss .. recovery and revival was garbo

eminem show, sslp, mmlp, infinite were all classic

too soon for me to rank kamikaze
 

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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #46 on: September 13, 2018, 12:46:48 PM »
Fuck all ya’ll...

I was on this site under my old Infinite59 account that got deleted (and his only true supporter on the even older Bodyrott, Snoopsdogghouse (no forum) and Dreday forum 99-2000) and I recognized Em for what he was before dude even broke through the threshold I saw, met, and supported Em back in the day when was still doing small arena venues and “My Name Is” was just coming out.

So I don’t give a fuck what none of y’all say except maybe Sccit and there was one other cat who called it right...

This shit will have no replay value and a year from now it won’t stand the test of time.

Up until the D-12 World album (the first signs) and Encore (his first disappointment) everything Em had done was flawless, since then the only album that has been up to par has been MMLP2 (though not flawless) and some scattered tracks here and there like his shit with SIA such as “Guts Over Fear” and some joints from the Bad Meets Evil EP.

Check with me a year later and none of y’all will be bumping this shit.

I love Em he has nothing to prove I’m not dissing him—even he will come back around some years from now and be like “uhh those albums weren’t that good” like he came around and said about Encore and Relapse.

1.  Eminem Show
2.  MMLP
3.  Slim Shady LP
4.  8 Mile
5.  D12 - Devils Night

6.  MMLP 2

7.  Bad Meetz Evil EP

....and then all else is subpar and not vintage Em...fuck y’all opinions


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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #47 on: September 13, 2018, 12:51:32 PM »
relapse, mmlp2 were dope albums .. encore was hit n miss .. recovery and revival was garbo

eminem show, sslp, mmlp, infinite were all classic

too soon for me to rank kamikaze

Kamikaze > MMLP2, Relapse, Recovery, Revival
 

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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #48 on: September 14, 2018, 12:02:59 AM »
I fuck with Relapse. I know the accent is corny, but his flows were all time. & Dre laced that shit up & down.

I'll take Kamikaze over the other three. I will say though after bumping it today, outside of The Ringer, Lucky You, Not Alike, Kamikaze, Fall & Good Guy it's weak. So really there are 6 dope ass songs out of 13. Luckily the other 5 songs weren't garbage, just not near the replay value. It was just so refreshing to hear Em actually spit with some content & substance it didn't matter.

I don't see any other angles he can take his career from here. He should just hope 6 or so other people diss him & make his next album like a 13 track response of just straight diss tracks.
 

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Re: Eminem - Kamikaze (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #49 on: September 14, 2018, 07:47:32 AM »
Dope album as fuck. replay it 23 times till now. Normal and nice guy only weak tracks. #bars
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