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Re:Prejudices against rap from ignorant people
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2003, 11:49:24 PM »
You CAN'T say those things about Hip Hop.  You can only say it about artists.  Take as many music classes as you want, study music your whole life, if you don't get it, then you just don't get it.  Rap music has only really been around for 20 years, which means it's way too new to make such judgement as people do.  Subject matter is irrelavant, in any genre of music, you can have the same subject matter as another.  


fact is i get it.....i've gotten it, and i get everything else out there too, the day you open yourself up to other cultures judgements become more clearer.....it's obvious most of this board has their hands roooted 6 feet deep in hip hop and mabe an inch at most in other genres..how can you form an opinion on something else when you don't have the knowledge to make a logical statement?
 20 years? is that some kind of excuse?! you just admitted hip hop is a slow to move genre......when you compare rock in 1950-you got dudes talking about rock around the clock and doing the twist and such ....then flash up 20 years to 1970 and you get a group called the beatles whose influence has never been matched in any genre. you get jimi hendrix the purest artist music has seen you get another band called led zeppelin transforming musicianship and ect. rock in 1970 was way bigger than what hip hop is now......so don't use the 20 year thing as an excuse.

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Subject matter is irrelavant, in any genre of music, you can have the same subject matter as another.  

you just said that lyrics mean nothing......what 2pac had to say is useless, what PE said in the 80's was just for fun, NWA were just and accident

note most of these artists had lyrical depth and are legends and the most celebrated hip hop acts hmmmmmmm cooincidence?


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Re:Prejudices against rap from ignorant people
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2003, 02:19:11 AM »
if you don't get it, then you just don't get it
 

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Re:Prejudices against rap from ignorant people
« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2003, 06:35:38 AM »
Yes jake i do see the hypocrasy in my statement thats why i wrote it..People get angry when people diss their music..It is there lifestyle..I was trying to make a point.
 

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Re:Prejudices against rap from ignorant people
« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2003, 06:18:34 PM »
hip hop didn't start off as Gangsta.  it was first an expession of the ghetto.   today it's rapped with shit like nelly and ja rule.  my parents are ignorent when it comes to hip hop.  and I can see why.  

AC that list you put up can all be siad in two words.  MAIN STREAM.  lol.  Main Stream rap is all that some peeps hear when it comes rap.  they don't know real soulful shit like Quik for example.  that's why peeps like my parents think of garbage like ja rule when they hear the term hip hop.  when if fact shit like that is not real hip hop at all.

that's why it's up to us to edgucate them.  sit them down and play some shit by Quik, The Twins, Foesum (my new found favorite) and so on.  
 

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Re:Prejudices against rap from ignorant people
« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2003, 06:22:04 PM »
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LMAO....how ironic.... please tell me that was intentional....
 

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Re:Prejudices against rap from ignorant people
« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2003, 12:38:39 AM »


that's why it's up to us to edgucate them.  sit them down and play some shit by Quik, The Twins, Foesum (my new found favorite) and so on.  

LMAO....ok with that list you'd win over 0 people who grew up with peeps like Earth Wind and Fire, Sade, Al Green, ect


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Re:Prejudices against rap from ignorant people
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2003, 09:40:55 AM »

AC that list you put up can all be siad in two words.  MAIN STREAM.  lol.  Main Stream rap is all that some peeps hear when it comes rap.  they don't know real soulful shit like Quik for example.  that's why peeps like my parents think of garbage like ja rule when they hear the term hip hop.  when if fact Its not the only face of hiphop.


This is true..all people who dont like hiphop see is what is shoved down their throats by commercialism....same ja tunes bumping over and over on the radio...

...on the other hand the face that shows just guns, drugs, violence and no message is also prevalent...

its hard to get by any prejudice or impressions layed....hopefully throught the evoloution of this music more people will understand.


PE if ever you watch some of their videos back in the day...it was shocking...but true...how they felt and needed to express themselves (and possibly the only way in which they werre allowed to say what they did...fair enough mister griff  (if i remember his name correctly) went overboard and got PE into big trouble with reverse racism...but what they had to say and what you saw on songs like "by the time i get to arizona" were so powerful it was like watching a film and taking a part.

Same with many other rappers of that era...amazing time...i wish more people into hiphop now could have seen it and truely known what it meant for people as a whole at the time..not just for the rap artists but this changed / helped to change things for All !


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