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Re:Biggest Influence On Hip Hop?
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2003, 01:02:09 AM »
actually i think the only thing 50 cent has done for hip hop is add to the ruining of it...but we wont get into that or we'll end up w/ the 50 dickriders and the 50 haters all in here with a big arguement...50 hasnt brought anyone to hip hop who wasnt already here...he didnt have a chance...em came out right when the industry needed a new...i wanna say role model but thats not a great word for em lol...but u get what im saying...they were long overdue for one...now that hes done that in that time we've had a million of them...em, nelly, puffy (now that hes gotten more commercial), ja rule, 50 cent...if em hadnt've come then whoever came after him would've done it...just not to the extent he did. but he did it at the perfect time which is why i say that he was the doggystyle of the new generation of hip hop.

Puffy sold just as many records as Eminem two years before Eminem came out. I would say that is to the same extent as Eminem. Puffy was on MTV just as much as Eminem in 1997. He had the most successful hip hop tour of all time during that time, No Way Out tour.  

Eminem didn't get as big as he is now until 2000. When he debuted in 1999 he was not running the industry yet. Jay-Z and DMX still outsold him during that time period.
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Re:Biggest Influence On Hip Hop?
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2003, 01:04:44 AM »
yea but he more or less reached out to ppl who were already into hip hop...while i love that album...and as perfect as that was at the time...it didnt bring that many new fans to hip hop...and that album was pretty much straight eastcoast gangster rap...there wasnt much bling bling...puffy wasnt all poppy like he is now...he was dope...he still is but hes too commercial now...i think that stuff was a big influence on hip hop...thats why i put I'll be missing you in my list...but i think em had a way bigger influence than puffy did.
 

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Re:Biggest Influence On Hip Hop?
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2003, 01:10:47 AM »
yea but he more or less reached out to ppl who were already into hip hop...while i love that album...and as perfect as that was at the time...it didnt bring that many new fans to hip hop...and that album was pretty much straight eastcoast gangster rap...there wasnt much bling bling...puffy wasnt all poppy like he is now...he was dope...he still is but hes too commercial now...i think that stuff was a big influence on hip hop...thats why i put I'll be missing you in my list...but i think em had a way bigger influence than puffy did.

Puffy has and will always have a bigger influence on hip hop than Eminem. All the crap commercial bullshit you hear on the radio now is influenced by Puffy's radio friendly single formula. No Way Out was commercial as fuck and poppy at that. He reached out to rock fans, techno fans, country fans, etc. with that album. That alone makes him more influential than Eminem to HIP HOP MUSIC cause a bunch of country, rock and parents aren't going to change the sound of the music or influence anything in hip hop other than Eminem's sales. Puffy changed the way other rappers make records. All the excessive guest spots, the aforementioned commercial radio formula, expensive videos, etc. are all staples in hip hop now and that was because of Puff Daddy. To me it was a real negative but the impact/influence is still astonishing.

List all of Eminem's influences on HIP HOP MUSIC. Not how many sales he has, not how many awards he has won cause that does not affect HIP HOP MUSIC! Sure he has brought some people into hip hop but most of those people will only buy an Eminem record.

I'm talking about influencing how other RAPPERS make music or how Eminem affected the hip hop language ("Stan" I'll give him that), dress, THE culture.
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Re:Biggest Influence On Hip Hop?
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2003, 01:13:39 AM »
em may not have had that much influence on other rappers (except the white ones but a lot of them are trying to make it)...but neither did diddy...i dont see many ppl tryin to bring the no way out style anymore or even the forever or saga continues style...diddy is about as successful as eminem....em just happened to expose the world to the fact that white ppl may not be able to jump...but they can rap!
 

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Re:Biggest Influence On Hip Hop?
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2003, 01:15:59 AM »
anywayz dude...im gettin tired as hell...its like 1:30 am here and i didnt get a whole lot of sleep last night...ill talk to you more about this tomorrow probably lol...
 

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Re:Biggest Influence On Hip Hop?
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2003, 01:25:47 AM »
em may not have had that much influence on other rappers (except the white ones but a lot of them are trying to make it)...but neither did diddy...i dont see many ppl tryin to bring the no way out style anymore or even the forever or saga continues style...diddy is about as successful as eminem....em just happened to expose the world to the fact that white ppl may not be able to jump...but they can rap!

So far I only have one original influence Eminem has had on the industry which is to influence record companies to sign white MC's. And the only thing those rappers have in common with Eminem is that they are white. None of them are using his psycho/crazy style so he isn't really influencing them as rappers but more the industry.

All the rap songs on the radio right now as we speak with an R&B hook and soft catchy beat is the formula Puffy made with Bad Boy ("Juicy", "One More Chance", "Big Poppa", "Feels So Good", "Can't Nobody Hold Me Down", "Mo' Money Mo' Problems", "Been Around The World", and the list goes on).

 

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Re:Biggest Influence On Hip Hop?
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2003, 01:27:02 AM »
anywayz dude...im gettin tired as hell...its like 1:30 am here and i didnt get a whole lot of sleep last night...ill talk to you more about this tomorrow probably lol...

lol good discussin this shit with you.....i got a plane to catch in a few hours so i'm trying to waste time debating....thanks for the talk...peace
 

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Re:Biggest Influence On Hip Hop?
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2003, 11:18:39 AM »
lol no problem...whats everyone else think of this shit?
 

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Re:Biggest Influence On Hip Hop?
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2003, 11:24:47 AM »
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Re:Biggest Influence On Hip Hop?
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2003, 06:00:30 PM »
Warren G - Regulators (w/out this...no g-funk)

LMAO, your kidding right? G-Funk existed before Warren G dropped that track, Above The Law started G-Funk.........it's bad enough people give Dre props for G-Funk but to give it to Warren G? ::)

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Unfortunately, most hip-hop artists gravitated towards the path of least resistance by relying on these pre-set patches. As a result, electric guitar and real musicians became devalued, and a lot of hip-hop now sounds the same.

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Re:Biggest Influence On Hip Hop?
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2003, 06:04:52 PM »
Noreaga  ;D

lmao...nore did *nothin'* for hip hop...except make good music...no impact or influence

LMAO, I just said that cuz I love Noreaga's music...I just looked at this and posted this, anyway I think CNN's album The War Report had somewhat of an influence on hip hop...not much though....anyway I think NWA had a huge influence on hip hop, they started this gangsta shit  ;D
 

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Re:Biggest Influence On Hip Hop?
« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2003, 06:49:45 PM »
Warren G - Regulators (w/out this...no g-funk)

LMAO, your kidding right? G-Funk existed before Warren G dropped that track, Above The Law started G-Funk.........it's bad enough people give Dre props for G-Funk but to give it to Warren G? ::)

g-funk wasnt known until warren dropped regulators...then the shit blew up...
 

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Re:Biggest Influence On Hip Hop?
« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2003, 06:49:24 PM »
Biggest influence on hip-hop?  Just a song?

Here you are:

Doug E. Fresh & The Get Fresh Crew - "La Di Da Di"
 

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Re:Biggest Influence On Hip Hop?
« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2003, 01:57:15 AM »


Dr. Dre - Nuthin But A G Thang
Notorious B.I.G. - Juicy/Big Poppa (put east coast gangsta rap on the map)