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Re:Whose tha king of Newyork?
« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2003, 06:02:44 PM »
I thought we were jus discussin bout the music...

Jigga has a much bigger empire no doubt...but I don't think that makes him the King of New York...
 

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Re:Whose tha king of Newyork?
« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2003, 06:08:44 PM »
50 isnt shit compared to nas or jay-z credit wise...nas & jay have been doin it for years both lyrically and sales wise...compared to those 2 50 aint shit.

You are of course aware that Nas's debut sold 1 million, Jay's debut barely went platinum.... while 50's official debut currently is at 6 million, and rising...

That's more than ANY of Jay-Z and Nas albums, in comparison.
He can get hella big.. and he got the talent for it too.
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Re:Whose tha king of Newyork?
« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2003, 06:54:07 PM »
You gotta be a Nas-groupie to think he's the King of N.Y.
Other than his solo-albums, what's really popping with him..

Ill Will Records ??
The Bravehearts ??

Lmao.. nothing really.

Jay-Z's empire in 50x times bigger.. Roc-a-fella, Roc-a-wear, movies, shoes, Cognac, etc... he got everything poppin off.. it's impossible to deny his empire.
One can discuss Nas vs. Jay-Z albums into eternity, but when it comes to running shit.. they don't get much bigger than Jigga.

Even Snoop Dogg is a small-time hustla compared to Jay-Z.. as he says himself:

I'm tryina build a Dynasty like Jigga, my nigga
Sixty seven-figure, you dig it ?




based on that i would agree jay-z is bigger...but i think jay-z is more quanity than quality...jay may have more but nas has better quality to his music. and jigga has had about as many movies as nas has. but yeah jigga's roster on the roc is much better than ill will (mop, twista, cam'ron, young gunz, etc...), i really didnt think about that jome...i'm going to say that jay is the king as far as having the most power, nas is the king in having the best quality shit.
 

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Re:Whose tha king of Newyork?
« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2003, 09:44:15 PM »
jay-z
 

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Re:Whose tha king of Newyork?
« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2003, 09:49:47 PM »
50 isnt shit compared to nas or jay-z credit wise...nas & jay have been doin it for years both lyrically and sales wise...compared to those 2 50 aint shit.

You are of course aware that Nas's debut sold 1 million, Jay's debut barely went platinum.... while 50's official debut currently is at 6 million, and rising...

That's more than ANY of Jay-Z and Nas albums, in comparison.
He can get hella big.. and he got the talent for it too.

thats why i said as far as sales and shit 50 is king...but 50s talent is nothing compared to nas or jay....50 has the talent to be as good as both...but he doesnt use it...so to me 50 wont be king until he can use his full potential and still sell that many albums...besides...debut albums never sell that much unless you're eminem (who sold so much cuz he's white...i hate to say it but its true) or 50 cent who had tremendous credit for being an underground rapper before he even signed to aftermath.
 

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« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2003, 10:05:51 PM »
but i think jay-z is more quanity than quality...jay may have more but nas has better quality to his music.

Eye ear of the beholder, I guess.
And I guess we should have discussed what makes a "King" before discussing who is the King..

* Most powerful ? Connections ?
* Best C.E.O./businessman ?
* Best lyrical ?
* Better Albums ?
* Most connected, deep in the streets.. ?
* The best entertainer.. ?

The answer to each Q is different.. it all depends what the thread-starter means with "King"..
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Don Breezio

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« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2003, 10:42:25 PM »

* Most powerful ? Connections ?
* Best C.E.O./businessman ?
* Best lyrical ?
* Better Albums ?
* Most connected, deep in the streets.. ?
* The best entertainer.. ?

The answer to each Q is different.. it all depends what the thread-starter means with "King"..


* Most powerful/Connections - Jay-Z
* Best C.E.O./businessman - Jay-Z
* Best lyrical - Nas
* Better Albums - Nas
* Most connected, deep in the streets.. - Jay (cuz of the empire)
* The best entertainer.. - 50 Cent

so i guess all around i would say jay-z
 

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« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2003, 07:36:19 AM »
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« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2003, 08:04:54 PM »
LOL How can 50 be the king of New York if he dont live and rep it? Thats like saying Bush rules the world.

THe "Kang" of New York is probably Jigga...I dont live there so i cant speak on it with full confidence, but seems like hes the biggest rap name, and has the most power in the city. Of course I think personally that nas is a better rapper. pZ
 

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Re:Whose tha king of Newyork?
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2003, 06:08:48 AM »
There is only one:

The B-I-G-D-A-Double D-Y-K-A-N-E.
King Asiatic Nobody's Equal  ;D
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« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2003, 07:09:51 AM »
when it comes to king of ny its not about there clothing company an record lable.  its about the music an influece an air play.  if where goin take everything into account than puffy has had the city on lock down.  He has been a big name in the rap game for a longer time than jigga.  He has had his own company even b4 jay-z's name was relvelant in the rap game.  Sean Jean was out b4 rocawear.  His stuff gets mad airplay.  does that make him the king of new york???????
 

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Re:Whose tha king of Newyork?
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2003, 07:17:02 AM »
Biggie will always be the KONY

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Re:Whose tha king of Newyork?
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2003, 07:35:24 AM »
Ja Rule
 

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Re:Whose tha king of Newyork?
« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2003, 07:08:02 PM »
There is only one:

The B-I-G-D-A-Double D-Y-K-A-N-E.
King Asiatic Nobody's Equal  ;D

LOL... The Rappin' Soloist gots him

But on the real, it 2 thousand fuckin' 3, it's got to be Nas. Jigga is retiring. I think the King is the most respected rapper on the streets. Not really who's deep in the streets, who gots the most killaz on his side, or even who's most lyrical or gots the most cash. But the one artist in his city that when he speaks, the people listen. Like in the west, it's easy who the King is, Snoop. In L.A., Snoop is always on the radio, his well respected 'cause his been in the game 12 years now, since '91 with 213. People in L.A. see Snoop, and they love him. Most everyone hates Suge, and even middle age people follow Snoop's career. In N.Y., I don't know. I know 50 Cent ain't been out as long as Jigga or Nas though. But his street following is huge with his mix tapes, and street cred, and it's working for him. His 3 albums deep in his career, so his not just a rookie that popped up. But I think Nas was holding the crown after his wars with Jigga, as everyone I knew from N.Y. was on Nas's dick. Jigga was the king, easy, but it seemed that Nas took that from him without wanting it. But Biggie become King of N.Y. with one classic album. I think 50 needs one, and he can claim the throne. But until Nas drops it, it's his. Of course if Nas's next album don't sell, and 50 is still blowing, and we know Jigga is retiring, then I guess we can fully say 50 is the King. But until then, unless there's a battle, I think Nas gots his crown, though he doesn't really want it.

Oh yeah, those that say Biggie is still king, please get a life, and realize we are in a whole new millieum.
 

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Re:Whose tha king of Newyork?
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2003, 07:20:39 AM »
street cred and airplay .. 50
power.. jigga
lyrical.. Nas

who's got the better albums isn't that obvies

I think it's not really obvies right now, we'll have to wait and see
 

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Re:Whose tha king of Newyork?
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2003, 07:55:07 AM »
There is only one:

The B-I-G-D-A-Double D-Y-K-A-N-E.
King Asiatic Nobody's Equal  ;D

kick ass album