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i hate it when people pronounce these words like this...
« on: July 31, 2003, 03:24:47 PM »
when people say these words , it just drives me nuts!



when they say milk (melk)

when they pronounce the a's in lava the same way as "sap" so it sounds like Laavaa

naked (neked)

harrASSment (harris-ment)

when british people/jewish NY people put an -er on a word that ends with a

Madonna (Madonner)
Pamela (Pameler)
Amanda (amander)
Soda (Soder)

then they make words that end with and E sound like it has an A there

Butter (butta)
Flower (flowa)

or when people can't pronounce their ch's

Chicken (shicken)
Chips (Ships)
CHilli Cheese (shilly sheese)


or when a W is just thrown in a word


Dog (Dwog)
Door (Dwa)
God (Gwod)


or when people just completely leave off letters intirely

car (ca)










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Re:i hate it when people pronounce these words like this...
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2003, 03:26:49 PM »
i hate when people say Supposedly like Supposably...and Remember like Renember
 

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Re:i hate it when people pronounce these words like this...
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2003, 04:10:15 PM »
and instead of pillow they say pellow
 

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Re:i hate it when people pronounce these words like this...
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2003, 04:17:48 PM »
lol y'all muhfuckaz be to fuzzy

seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen
 

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Re:i hate it when people pronounce these words like this...
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2003, 04:18:07 PM »
when they pronounce the a's in lava the same way as "sap" so it sounds like Laavaa

actually lava is pronounced that way.


naked (neked)


this kind of pronunciation requires less energy and enables you to speak faster. /a/ is a diphthong (two-vowel-sound) and /e/ is a monophthong (single-vowel-sound). You don't need to move your tongue from one position to another.



when british people/jewish NY people put an -er on a word that ends with a

Madonna (Madonner)
Pamela (Pameler)
Amanda (amander)
Soda (Soder)


ever thought of the phonetic enivronment in which these words occur? if a word is ending with a vowel and the next word begins with a vowel, the segment /r/ is often put in between to mark the word boundary. Yet, it might also be the case that those British morons  ;D add an /r/ in order to sound like Americans since American English is a rhotic language.

then they make words that end with and E sound like it has an A there

Butter (butta)
Flower (flowa)

it's not an "a" but a so-called schwa sound. It's easier to pronounce since it requires less energy (almost no tongue movement)

or when people can't pronounce their ch's

Chicken (shicken)
Chips (Ships)
CHilli Cheese (shilly sheese)

all these words start with an affricate (->tsh), a sound which requires much more energy than a fricative (--> "sh").

or when a W is just thrown in a word

Dog (Dwog)
Door (Dwa)
God (Gwod)

i'll have to look up my books to explain this one... don't know whether it's regressive assimilation or some other phonetic phenomena
 



or when people just completely leave off letters intirely
car (ca)



makes sense if you're british. RP doesn't know the segment /r/ in final position.
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Re:i hate it when people pronounce these words like this...
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2003, 04:20:10 PM »
 

Don Breezio

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Re:i hate it when people pronounce these words like this...
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2003, 04:26:53 PM »
when they pronounce the a's in lava the same way as "sap" so it sounds like Laavaa

actually lava is pronounced that way.


naked (neked)


this kind of pronunciation requires less energy and enables you to speak faster. /a/ is a diphthong (two-vowel-sound) and /e/ is a monophthong (single-vowel-sound). You don't need to move your tongue from one position to another.



when british people/jewish NY people put an -er on a word that ends with a

Madonna (Madonner)
Pamela (Pameler)
Amanda (amander)
Soda (Soder)


ever thought of the phonetic enivronment in which these words occur? if a word is ending with a vowel and the next word begins with a vowel, the segment /r/ is often put in between to mark the word boundary. Yet, it might also be the case that those British morons  ;D add an /r/ in order to sound like Americans since American English is a rhotic language.

then they make words that end with and E sound like it has an A there

Butter (butta)
Flower (flowa)

it's not an "a" but a so-called schwa sound. It's easier to pronounce since it requires less energy (almost no tongue movement)

or when people can't pronounce their ch's

Chicken (shicken)
Chips (Ships)
CHilli Cheese (shilly sheese)

all these words start with an affricate (->tsh), a sound which requires much more energy than a fricative (--> "sh").

or when a W is just thrown in a word

Dog (Dwog)
Door (Dwa)
God (Gwod)

i'll have to look up my books to explain this one... don't know whether it's regressive assimilation or some other phonetic phenomena
 



or when people just completely leave off letters intirely
car (ca)



makes sense if you're british. RP doesn't know the segment /r/ in final position.

i think you just got schooled by the grammar police  ::)
 

Shin

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Re:i hate it when people pronounce these words like this...
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2003, 04:31:38 PM »


i think you just got schooled by the grammar police  ::)

 ::)

first up, it's phonetics and not grammar. second, sometimes it can be useful to know more about language.


 

Don Breezio

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Re:i hate it when people pronounce these words like this...
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2003, 04:38:31 PM »


i think you just got schooled by the grammar police  ::)

 ::)

first up, it's phonetics and not grammar. second, sometimes it can be useful to know more about language.




peoples accents affect their pronunciation...why do we need a long ass explanation for that? i know i dont. i really dont think anyone cares.
 

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Re:i hate it when people pronounce these words like this...
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2003, 04:54:26 PM »

peoples accents affect their pronunciation...why do we need a long ass explanation for that? i know i dont. i really dont think anyone cares.

ummm.... language determines the way you think? accent & dialect are social markers? language is the only thing that really distinguishes us from animals?
 

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Re:i hate it when people pronounce these words like this...
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2003, 05:05:59 PM »


i think you just got schooled by the grammar police  ::)

 ::)

first up, it's phonetics and not grammar. second, sometimes it can be useful to know more about language.




peoples accents affect their pronunciation...why do we need a long ass explanation for that? i know i dont. i really dont think anyone cares.
I think you got schooled by the Phonetics Police...lol

 

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Re:i hate it when people pronounce these words like this...
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2003, 07:00:03 PM »
when they pronounce the a's in lava the same way as "sap" so it sounds like Laavaa

actually lava is pronounced that way.


naked (neked)


this kind of pronunciation requires less energy and enables you to speak faster. /a/ is a diphthong (two-vowel-sound) and /e/ is a monophthong (single-vowel-sound). You don't need to move your tongue from one position to another.



when british people/jewish NY people put an -er on a word that ends with a

Madonna (Madonner)
Pamela (Pameler)
Amanda (amander)
Soda (Soder)


ever thought of the phonetic enivronment in which these words occur? if a word is ending with a vowel and the next word begins with a vowel, the segment /r/ is often put in between to mark the word boundary. Yet, it might also be the case that those British morons  ;D add an /r/ in order to sound like Americans since American English is a rhotic language.

then they make words that end with and E sound like it has an A there

Butter (butta)
Flower (flowa)

it's not an "a" but a so-called schwa sound. It's easier to pronounce since it requires less energy (almost no tongue movement)

or when people can't pronounce their ch's

Chicken (shicken)
Chips (Ships)
CHilli Cheese (shilly sheese)

all these words start with an affricate (->tsh), a sound which requires much more energy than a fricative (--> "sh").

or when a W is just thrown in a word

Dog (Dwog)
Door (Dwa)
God (Gwod)

i'll have to look up my books to explain this one... don't know whether it's regressive assimilation or some other phonetic phenomena
 



or when people just completely leave off letters intirely
car (ca)



makes sense if you're british. RP doesn't know the segment /r/ in final position.


in other words........lazy ways of talking




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Re:i hate it when people pronounce these words like this...
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2003, 08:02:21 PM »
i got a lil bit of the boston accent. but some people have it really bad and sound like JFK used to talk.
 

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Re:i hate it when people pronounce these words like this...
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2003, 09:01:54 PM »
i got a ny accent :D
 

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Re:i hate it when people pronounce these words like this...
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2003, 09:13:27 PM »
i dont know what kind of accent i have.. some told me i have a slite spanish one....... then again..... i can speak ghetto..