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It makes me nervous being aound any Mexican person, knowing that they probably share these same racist, ignorant beliefs.
Thank you for posting this article and proving that Mecha is a racist hate group made up of Mexican supremacists. The fact that Cruz Bustamante is running for the governor of California having been a part of this hate group is very disturbing. What the hell is the matter with the people of California, especially the Mexicans? How can anyone support this guy? It is like a white Nazi running for governor and leading in the polls. It makes me nervous being aound any Mexican person, knowing that they probably share these same racist, ignorant beliefs. If you don't like people of other races, then stay in your racist ass country Mexico.
Did yu even go to school C Walker? Do you know what was going on in the 60s? Things have changed. the 60s were CRAZY times. CRAZY....now the brown berets...they were racists. The brown borets were militants .There is thing called La Maquiladoras in Mexico...the worse working conditions, lowest pay jobs...and this is the only option people have to get money so they can eat.... OR Move to California..and who own these maquiladoras? Big Corporate Companies makin billions
Quote from: /\ Javier /\ on September 13, 2003, 01:19:50 PMQuote from: CWalker187 on September 13, 2003, 07:03:04 AMWhat does any of that have to do with a Mexican hate group that wants to create a mythical homeland called Atzlan by overthrowing the US government and kicking out anyone who isnt of Mexican ancestry. Their slogan is "for the race everything, for those outside the race, nothing". What is sad is that when Cruz Bustamante was asked to renounce those beliefs, HE REFUSED! The leading candidate to be governor of the largest state in the US is a racial separatist and no one cares!!!!!!! In fact, he refused to renounce those racist beliefs because it would hurt him in the eyes of Mexican voters. Now what does that say for Mexicans if they all support Bustamante and this hate group Mecha?facts wrong. when bustamnte was asked he REFUSED to respond. REfusing beliefs and refusing to respond are two different things. Look I dont give a fuck about MeCha and I dont suppor Bustamante...but look at this articleDALLAS -- Nativist conservatives are so jittery over the phenomenal growth of the Latino population in the United States that they'll believe anything. Now they've swallowed the whopper recently slung at California Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante. The first Latino elected statewide in the Golden State in over 100 years, Bustamante is an ensconced member of the Democratic establishment, the front-runner to replace Gov. Gray Davis in the recall election and a former militant, or so they say. Here's how the whopper goes: Back in the mid-1970s, while attending Cal State University Fresno, Bustamante was a member of MEChA, a radical Mexican-American student organization whose mission is to forcibly take over the American Southwest and hand it back to Mexico. Of course, it's not really the Southwest but "Aztlan," the mythical homeland of Mexican-Americans unjustly occupied by foreign invaders since 1848 when the land was stolen through Manifest Destiny. In response to all this, I'm sure I speak for the majority of the 20 million or so Mexicans and Mexican-Americans in the United States when I say: "Yawn." Reality check, people. The native-cons' obsession with Aztlan is goofy. A mythical homeland for Mexican-Americans in the Southwest? Why Aztlan? Why not a name that really fits? Like Absurdia. If you've never heard of MEChA -- more formally known as the Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or the Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan -- you're not missing much. It's a rickety organization that is totally ineffective and irrelevant in the modern day. What am I saying? It was pretty much ineffective and irrelevant back in its own day. Since it was founded in 1969, the real story has been not how many Mexican-American students join up, but how many don't. Today at colleges around the country you're likely to find better attendance at a meeting of the Hispanic Business Students Association. Those who do join MEChA are likely to find a majority of the organization's time and energy dedicated to planning festivals, forums and folklorico dancing. Now, I ask you, is that any way to lead a revolution? Just don't try telling any of this to the gaggle of right-wing pundits who have convinced themselves that MEChA is all about racial separatism and the Chicano equivalent of the Ku Klux Klan or the Nazis. It all started when syndicated columnist Michelle Malkin incorrectly identified the group's motto as: Por La Raza todo. Fuera de la Raza nada. (For the Mexican people everything, for others nothing.) Actually, the phrase comes from "El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan," a poem espousing Chicano nationalism that emerged at a Chicano youth conference in Denver in March 1969. MEChA wasn't founded until the following month at another conference in Santa Barbara. Its real motto is, La Union Hace La Fuerza (Unity Creates Strength). Ironically, it's been my experience that MEChA groups are rarely unified or even particularly well organized. Usually, there are too many generals and not enough soldiers. Then someone stands up and insists they're "more Mexican" than someone else. And soon, there are insults and infighting and idiocy. And then we're back to the part about being ineffective and irrelevant. As for racial separatism, imagine how difficult that would be to achieve now that half of all Latinos marry outside the ethnic group. Bustamante is no radical. He's a moderate whose politics were first shaped -- as were mine -- by his upbringing in Central California's conservative San Joaquin Valley. In fact, I've taken issue with him because he's often seemed uninterested in championing the causes of the disadvantaged. What does interest him is practicing traditional politics -- collecting campaign contributions such as the millions he recently got from an Indian tribe apparently intent on keeping the state's nose out of its casino business. So how does such a paranoid fantasy of a Mexican-American takeover of the Southwest grab hold in the first place? Simple: changing demographics. Now that Latinos are on track to make up a quarter of all U.S. residents by 2040, the idea of a cultural conquest suddenly seems more plausible than ever. And who gets credit for that? Not MEChA. But a lenient immigration policy tailored to serve U.S. employers who can't get enough cheap labor. What we're seeing in California -- and around the country -- are not the effects of radicalism but of capitalism. Maybe the native-cons are right. The problem is MEChA. That is, if the acronym stands for: Many Employers Can't Hire Americans. Article by Ruben Navarrette Jr. http://www.postwritersgroup.com/archives/nava0909.htm[/url
Quote from: CWalker187 on September 13, 2003, 07:03:04 AMWhat does any of that have to do with a Mexican hate group that wants to create a mythical homeland called Atzlan by overthrowing the US government and kicking out anyone who isnt of Mexican ancestry. Their slogan is "for the race everything, for those outside the race, nothing". What is sad is that when Cruz Bustamante was asked to renounce those beliefs, HE REFUSED! The leading candidate to be governor of the largest state in the US is a racial separatist and no one cares!!!!!!! In fact, he refused to renounce those racist beliefs because it would hurt him in the eyes of Mexican voters. Now what does that say for Mexicans if they all support Bustamante and this hate group Mecha?facts wrong. when bustamnte was asked he REFUSED to respond. REfusing beliefs and refusing to respond are two different things. Look I dont give a fuck about MeCha and I dont suppor Bustamante...but look at this articleDALLAS -- Nativist conservatives are so jittery over the phenomenal growth of the Latino population in the United States that they'll believe anything. Now they've swallowed the whopper recently slung at California Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante. The first Latino elected statewide in the Golden State in over 100 years, Bustamante is an ensconced member of the Democratic establishment, the front-runner to replace Gov. Gray Davis in the recall election and a former militant, or so they say. Here's how the whopper goes: Back in the mid-1970s, while attending Cal State University Fresno, Bustamante was a member of MEChA, a radical Mexican-American student organization whose mission is to forcibly take over the American Southwest and hand it back to Mexico. Of course, it's not really the Southwest but "Aztlan," the mythical homeland of Mexican-Americans unjustly occupied by foreign invaders since 1848 when the land was stolen through Manifest Destiny. In response to all this, I'm sure I speak for the majority of the 20 million or so Mexicans and Mexican-Americans in the United States when I say: "Yawn." Reality check, people. The native-cons' obsession with Aztlan is goofy. A mythical homeland for Mexican-Americans in the Southwest? Why Aztlan? Why not a name that really fits? Like Absurdia. If you've never heard of MEChA -- more formally known as the Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or the Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan -- you're not missing much. It's a rickety organization that is totally ineffective and irrelevant in the modern day. What am I saying? It was pretty much ineffective and irrelevant back in its own day. Since it was founded in 1969, the real story has been not how many Mexican-American students join up, but how many don't. Today at colleges around the country you're likely to find better attendance at a meeting of the Hispanic Business Students Association. Those who do join MEChA are likely to find a majority of the organization's time and energy dedicated to planning festivals, forums and folklorico dancing. Now, I ask you, is that any way to lead a revolution? Just don't try telling any of this to the gaggle of right-wing pundits who have convinced themselves that MEChA is all about racial separatism and the Chicano equivalent of the Ku Klux Klan or the Nazis. It all started when syndicated columnist Michelle Malkin incorrectly identified the group's motto as: Por La Raza todo. Fuera de la Raza nada. (For the Mexican people everything, for others nothing.) Actually, the phrase comes from "El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan," a poem espousing Chicano nationalism that emerged at a Chicano youth conference in Denver in March 1969. MEChA wasn't founded until the following month at another conference in Santa Barbara. Its real motto is, La Union Hace La Fuerza (Unity Creates Strength). Ironically, it's been my experience that MEChA groups are rarely unified or even particularly well organized. Usually, there are too many generals and not enough soldiers. Then someone stands up and insists they're "more Mexican" than someone else. And soon, there are insults and infighting and idiocy. And then we're back to the part about being ineffective and irrelevant. As for racial separatism, imagine how difficult that would be to achieve now that half of all Latinos marry outside the ethnic group. Bustamante is no radical. He's a moderate whose politics were first shaped -- as were mine -- by his upbringing in Central California's conservative San Joaquin Valley. In fact, I've taken issue with him because he's often seemed uninterested in championing the causes of the disadvantaged. What does interest him is practicing traditional politics -- collecting campaign contributions such as the millions he recently got from an Indian tribe apparently intent on keeping the state's nose out of its casino business. So how does such a paranoid fantasy of a Mexican-American takeover of the Southwest grab hold in the first place? Simple: changing demographics. Now that Latinos are on track to make up a quarter of all U.S. residents by 2040, the idea of a cultural conquest suddenly seems more plausible than ever. And who gets credit for that? Not MEChA. But a lenient immigration policy tailored to serve U.S. employers who can't get enough cheap labor. What we're seeing in California -- and around the country -- are not the effects of radicalism but of capitalism. Maybe the native-cons are right. The problem is MEChA. That is, if the acronym stands for: Many Employers Can't Hire Americans. Article by Ruben Navarrette Jr. http://www.postwritersgroup.com/archives/nava0909.htm[/url
What does any of that have to do with a Mexican hate group that wants to create a mythical homeland called Atzlan by overthrowing the US government and kicking out anyone who isnt of Mexican ancestry. Their slogan is "for the race everything, for those outside the race, nothing". What is sad is that when Cruz Bustamante was asked to renounce those beliefs, HE REFUSED! The leading candidate to be governor of the largest state in the US is a racial separatist and no one cares!!!!!!! In fact, he refused to renounce those racist beliefs because it would hurt him in the eyes of Mexican voters. Now what does that say for Mexicans if they all support Bustamante and this hate group Mecha?
Quote from: CWalker187 on September 13, 2003, 07:03:04 AMIt makes me nervous being aound any Mexican person, knowing that they probably share these same racist, ignorant beliefs. It makes you nervous to be around ANY Mexican person, knowing they PROBABLY share these.....How ironic, that in the same sentence you mention "ignorant beliefs". It's racist, ignorant, close-minded people like yourself that makes another want to be racist. That would be like me saying "It makes me nervous being around any white person, knowing they PROBABLY share the same racist, ignorant beliefs as CWalker187, Hitler, the KKK, etc." You can't just assume what a person's beliefs are based solely on his race. Not all Mexicans hate white people, not all white people hate blacks, etc. So if anyone is racist and ignorant, it's you, especially when you use words such as "they PROBABLY share the same beliefs"
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