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Nothing says the holidays like murdering dozens of innocent people!!!!!!!!! Seasons Greetings!!!!!!! Allah Ak-Bar!!!!!!

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Dozens Dead in Baghdad Car Bombings

Monday, October 27, 2003

BAGHDAD, Iraq — Striking in rapid succession, homicide car bombers bent on death for "collaborators" devastated the Red Cross (search) headquarters and three police stations Monday, killing three dozen people and wounding more than 200 in the bloodiest day in Baghdad (search) since the start of the U.S. occupation.





From north to south in this city of 5 million, the explosions over a 45-minute period left streetscapes of broken bodies, twisted wreckage and Iraqis unnerved by an escalating underground war. The dead included a U.S. soldier, eight Iraqi policemen and at least 26 Iraqi civilians.

"We feel helpless when see this," said an Iraqi doctor.

Iraqi and U.S. authorities in Baghdad blamed the coordinated quadruple blasts on foreign fighters intent on targeting those they accuse of collaborating with U.S. forces. One captive would-be bomber was said to carry a Syrian passport.

But in Washington, Pentagon officials said they believed loyalists of ousted President Saddam Hussein (search) were responsible. President Bush said insurgents had become more "desperate" because of what he said was progress in Iraq.

The tactics suggested a level of organization that U.S. officials had doubted the resistance possessed. In past weeks, bombers have carried out heavy homicide bombings but in single strikes.

Not only were Monday's attacks coordinated, they also involved disguise: the use of an Iraqi ambulance in the Red Cross attack, a police car and uniform in a police station explosion.

The blasts, which echoed the Aug. 19 bombing of the U.N. headquarters here, left the Red Cross and other aid agencies examining whether they should decrease their presence in Iraq. Paris-based Medecins Sans Frontieres said it would reduce its seven-member expatriate team in Baghdad.

Secretary of State Colin Powell said he hoped nongovernment organizations, contractors and the United Nations would stay in Iraq despite the dangers.

"They are needed. Their work is needed. And if they are driven out, then the terrorists win," Powell said in Washington.

The differing theories about who was behind the bombings underscored the confusion generated by two days of bold, stunning attacks, beginning with a rocket barrage on a U.S. headquarters hotel Sunday that killed a U.S. colonel, wounded 15 other people and sent Americans scurrying to safety, including the visiting deputy defense secretary, Paul Wolfowitz.

Later Sunday, three U.S. soldiers were killed in two attacks in the Baghdad area.



Then, at 8:30 a.m. Monday, on a warm, clear morning beginning the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan, the first of four thunderous explosions rocked the city.

A police car, somehow commandeered for a homicide mission and driven by a man in police uniform, blew up after entering the courtyard of the al-Baya'a police station in southern Baghdad, said police Brig. Gen. Ahmed Ibrahim, the deputy interior minister.

Officers said the blast killed 15 Iraqis and one U.S. soldier, and the U.S. military said six other Americans were wounded. American troops have been working with Iraqi police and guarding the stations.

Just five minutes later, a second blast struck the local headquarters of the International Committee of the Red Cross, a small, three-story building on a quiet street in central Baghdad. This bomber, too, used a subterfuge -- an Iraqi ambulance that apparently was able to approach the ICRC offices without suspicion.

"I saw this ambulance driving up toward the Red Cross, and then suddenly it blew up," said cigarette vendor Ghani Khadim. The vehicle stopped 60 feet from the front of the Red Cross building, at a protective line of earth-filled barrels, and disintegrated as it blew a 15-foot-wide crater in the road.

The blast knocked down a 40-foot section of the ICRC's sandbag-backed front wall, demolished a dozen cars and apparently broke a water main, flooding the streets. The building's interior was wrecked -- a scene of shattered glass, doors blown off their hinges, toppled bookcases and collapsed ceilings.

More than 100 staff members normally would have been inside, but starting time had been changed to 9 a.m. because of Ramadan, and probably only one-quarter of the normal staff was present. Red Cross headquarters in Geneva said 12 people were killed, only two of them employees, believed to be security guards, and the rest apparently passers-by.

The Red Cross and other aid organizations reduced their Baghdad staffs after the car bombing at U.N. headquarters that killed 23 people.

"Of course we don't understand why somebody would attack the Red Cross," said Nada Doumani, Baghdad spokeswoman for the ICRC, an organization that has long strived for political neutrality.

Two buildings away, the explosion devastated the interior of a private clinic operated by Dr. Jamal F. Massa, who had been planning to open it as a full-fledged hospital next month. "We feel helpless when we see this," he said of the ICRC bombing. He couldn't understand why the Red Cross was targeted, he said, since "this only hurts guards and other Iraqis."

Twenty minutes after the ICRC attack, another car bomber detonated his explosives-packed vehicle at a police station near a marketplace in north Baghdad.

After another 20 minutes, the fourth homicide bomber struck in southwest Baghdad, at the al-Khudra police station, destroying the front of the building.

Besides the dead, at least 224 people were reported wounded in the four attacks, including 65 policemen, Ibrahim said. The 34 dead he reported apparently did not include the American soldier the U.S. command said was killed at al-Baya'a, nor was it clear whether he was counting the four homicide drivers.

At 10:15 a.m., yet another bombing was attempted, at a police station in the eastern district of New Baghdad, where officers managed to spot and stop a Land Cruiser driver from detonating his explosives. The man set off a grenade that wounded an officer and himself, and when he was seized, "he was shouting, 'Death to the Iraqi police! You're collaborators!'" said police Sgt. Ahmed Abdel Sattar.

Ibrahim said the man carried a Syrian passport and told officers he was Syrian. "Some countries, unfortunately, are trying to send people to conduct attacks," the deputy interior minister said, without naming those nations.

Brig. Gen. Mark Hertling, an assistant commander of the U.S. 1st Armored Division, which occupies Baghdad, agreed that "foreign fighters" were prime suspects in the bombings. "I think that's a reasonable supposition," he said. "That's something we'll look closely at in the next few days."

Nevertheless, the latest attacks illustrated the disparate nature of the resistance -- from hit-run guerrillas, perhaps Saddam loyalists, who are staging an average of 26 low-profile attacks on U.S. forces daily, to bombers, perhaps Islamic extremists, staging homicide terror strikes.

The resistance is believed also to include Iraqis who simply resent the U.S. military occupation of their country or who have grievances over what they see as U.S. brutality against friends and neighbors.

One such incident may have occurred Monday in Fallujah, 40 miles west of Baghdad, where witnesses said U.S. troops opened fire on bystanders, killing at least four Iraqi civilians, after a roadside bomb exploded as a U.S. military convoy passed. The U.S. command did not confirm the incident or report any U.S. casualties.

In Washington, after the Baghdad bombings and after meeting with L. Paul Bremer, the U.S. civilian administrator for Iraq, Bush said he remains "even more determined to work with the Iraqi people" to restore peace to this troubled land.

 
 

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Re:Happy Ramadan!!!! Muslims Blow Up Red Cross Headquarters!!!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2003, 03:47:45 PM »

Nothing says the holidays like murdering dozens of innocent people!!!!!!!!! Seasons Greetings!!!!!!! Allah Ak-Bar!!!!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,101363,00.html





Dozens Dead in Baghdad Car Bombings

Monday, October 27, 2003

BAGHDAD, Iraq — Striking in rapid succession, homicide car bombers bent on death for "collaborators" devastated the Red Cross (search) headquarters and three police stations Monday, killing three dozen people and wounding more than 200 in the bloodiest day in Baghdad (search) since the start of the U.S. occupation.





From north to south in this city of 5 million, the explosions over a 45-minute period left streetscapes of broken bodies, twisted wreckage and Iraqis unnerved by an escalating underground war. The dead included a U.S. soldier, eight Iraqi policemen and at least 26 Iraqi civilians.

"We feel helpless when see this," said an Iraqi doctor.

Iraqi and U.S. authorities in Baghdad blamed the coordinated quadruple blasts on foreign fighters intent on targeting those they accuse of collaborating with U.S. forces. One captive would-be bomber was said to carry a Syrian passport.

But in Washington, Pentagon officials said they believed loyalists of ousted President Saddam Hussein (search) were responsible. President Bush said insurgents had become more "desperate" because of what he said was progress in Iraq.

The tactics suggested a level of organization that U.S. officials had doubted the resistance possessed. In past weeks, bombers have carried out heavy homicide bombings but in single strikes.

Not only were Monday's attacks coordinated, they also involved disguise: the use of an Iraqi ambulance in the Red Cross attack, a police car and uniform in a police station explosion.

The blasts, which echoed the Aug. 19 bombing of the U.N. headquarters here, left the Red Cross and other aid agencies examining whether they should decrease their presence in Iraq. Paris-based Medecins Sans Frontieres said it would reduce its seven-member expatriate team in Baghdad.

Secretary of State Colin Powell said he hoped nongovernment organizations, contractors and the United Nations would stay in Iraq despite the dangers.

"They are needed. Their work is needed. And if they are driven out, then the terrorists win," Powell said in Washington.

The differing theories about who was behind the bombings underscored the confusion generated by two days of bold, stunning attacks, beginning with a rocket barrage on a U.S. headquarters hotel Sunday that killed a U.S. colonel, wounded 15 other people and sent Americans scurrying to safety, including the visiting deputy defense secretary, Paul Wolfowitz.

Later Sunday, three U.S. soldiers were killed in two attacks in the Baghdad area.



Then, at 8:30 a.m. Monday, on a warm, clear morning beginning the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan, the first of four thunderous explosions rocked the city.

A police car, somehow commandeered for a homicide mission and driven by a man in police uniform, blew up after entering the courtyard of the al-Baya'a police station in southern Baghdad, said police Brig. Gen. Ahmed Ibrahim, the deputy interior minister.

Officers said the blast killed 15 Iraqis and one U.S. soldier, and the U.S. military said six other Americans were wounded. American troops have been working with Iraqi police and guarding the stations.

Just five minutes later, a second blast struck the local headquarters of the International Committee of the Red Cross, a small, three-story building on a quiet street in central Baghdad. This bomber, too, used a subterfuge -- an Iraqi ambulance that apparently was able to approach the ICRC offices without suspicion.

"I saw this ambulance driving up toward the Red Cross, and then suddenly it blew up," said cigarette vendor Ghani Khadim. The vehicle stopped 60 feet from the front of the Red Cross building, at a protective line of earth-filled barrels, and disintegrated as it blew a 15-foot-wide crater in the road.

The blast knocked down a 40-foot section of the ICRC's sandbag-backed front wall, demolished a dozen cars and apparently broke a water main, flooding the streets. The building's interior was wrecked -- a scene of shattered glass, doors blown off their hinges, toppled bookcases and collapsed ceilings.

More than 100 staff members normally would have been inside, but starting time had been changed to 9 a.m. because of Ramadan, and probably only one-quarter of the normal staff was present. Red Cross headquarters in Geneva said 12 people were killed, only two of them employees, believed to be security guards, and the rest apparently passers-by.

The Red Cross and other aid organizations reduced their Baghdad staffs after the car bombing at U.N. headquarters that killed 23 people.

"Of course we don't understand why somebody would attack the Red Cross," said Nada Doumani, Baghdad spokeswoman for the ICRC, an organization that has long strived for political neutrality.

Two buildings away, the explosion devastated the interior of a private clinic operated by Dr. Jamal F. Massa, who had been planning to open it as a full-fledged hospital next month. "We feel helpless when we see this," he said of the ICRC bombing. He couldn't understand why the Red Cross was targeted, he said, since "this only hurts guards and other Iraqis."

Twenty minutes after the ICRC attack, another car bomber detonated his explosives-packed vehicle at a police station near a marketplace in north Baghdad.

After another 20 minutes, the fourth homicide bomber struck in southwest Baghdad, at the al-Khudra police station, destroying the front of the building.

Besides the dead, at least 224 people were reported wounded in the four attacks, including 65 policemen, Ibrahim said. The 34 dead he reported apparently did not include the American soldier the U.S. command said was killed at al-Baya'a, nor was it clear whether he was counting the four homicide drivers.

At 10:15 a.m., yet another bombing was attempted, at a police station in the eastern district of New Baghdad, where officers managed to spot and stop a Land Cruiser driver from detonating his explosives. The man set off a grenade that wounded an officer and himself, and when he was seized, "he was shouting, 'Death to the Iraqi police! You're collaborators!'" said police Sgt. Ahmed Abdel Sattar.

Ibrahim said the man carried a Syrian passport and told officers he was Syrian. "Some countries, unfortunately, are trying to send people to conduct attacks," the deputy interior minister said, without naming those nations.

Brig. Gen. Mark Hertling, an assistant commander of the U.S. 1st Armored Division, which occupies Baghdad, agreed that "foreign fighters" were prime suspects in the bombings. "I think that's a reasonable supposition," he said. "That's something we'll look closely at in the next few days."

Nevertheless, the latest attacks illustrated the disparate nature of the resistance -- from hit-run guerrillas, perhaps Saddam loyalists, who are staging an average of 26 low-profile attacks on U.S. forces daily, to bombers, perhaps Islamic extremists, staging homicide terror strikes.

The resistance is believed also to include Iraqis who simply resent the U.S. military occupation of their country or who have grievances over what they see as U.S. brutality against friends and neighbors.

One such incident may have occurred Monday in Fallujah, 40 miles west of Baghdad, where witnesses said U.S. troops opened fire on bystanders, killing at least four Iraqi civilians, after a roadside bomb exploded as a U.S. military convoy passed. The U.S. command did not confirm the incident or report any U.S. casualties.

In Washington, after the Baghdad bombings and after meeting with L. Paul Bremer, the U.S. civilian administrator for Iraq, Bush said he remains "even more determined to work with the Iraqi people" to restore peace to this troubled land.

 


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Re:Happy Ramadan!!!! Muslims Blow Up Red Cross Headquarters!!!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2003, 06:41:56 PM »
Season's Greetings bitches 8)
 

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Re:Happy Ramadan!!!! Muslims Blow Up Red Cross Headquarters!!!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2003, 07:56:12 PM »
I doubt it was Ramadan related. This kid actually thinks that, that's like saying that an attack on Christmas is religious related. Hell, the U.S. has lead many attacks on Christmas, from the Revolution War against the Brits, to the Vietnam War. But not for religion, but because we knew it was Christmas, so we could shock them by attacking on our holiday. So Iraqis where just taking a page out of our own book. That's as surprising as Trauma dissing Democrats.
 

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Re:Happy Ramadan!!!! Muslims Blow Up Red Cross Headquarters!!!!!!!
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2003, 08:15:38 PM »
M dogg, you're ignorance is unfathomable.  The reason they bombed the red cross today was because we did it in vietnam on christmas?  What?  



Stop, pause, and think about the stupid shit you say.  You, and many liberals, have a disease.  You like to pass the buck.  You feel guilty that you live in such a blessed land, so you blame everything bad on America. After all, other people can't be bad, there has to be a reason for it, right?  There is no reason to anarchy.  People don't bomb fucking CHARITY WORKERS for good reasons.  Think about what the fuck you say, how can you consider yourself a good person when you rationalize the deaths of people working for the Red Cross?  


You may be hell bent on thinking America is evil, but there is always truth, and whether you realize it, or agree with it, truth is truth.  Killing Red Cross members is never right, no matter what slant you put on it.  It doesn't matter what we did to them.  If you killed my mom, would that give me the right to rape your sister?  No.  Wrong is Wrong, Right is Right, Truth is Truth.

They didn't take a page from our playbook.  They bombed fucking CHARITY workers.  See it as that, evil, despicable, wrong.  Fuck them, and fuck you too for rationalizing that it's o.k. because we've done fucked up stuff too.  You are what's wrong with the world, you have 0 common sense, but yet you slave away at college trying to get some bullshit job you won't be happy with anyways.  
 

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Re:Happy Ramadan!!!! Muslims Blow Up Red Cross Headquarters!!!!!!!
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2003, 08:25:12 PM »
I know what you are saying, but I want you to think about more than good vs. evil. It's more than good vs. evil in this world, because everyone thinks of themselves as good. They aren't in there homes thinking, oh, how can I be evil today, no. They are thinking that they are doing a great thing. You and I know that they are wrong from our point of view, killing innocent lives should not be tolerated by any means. Though they feel that all things American are a sign of oppression. So some are going to feel that bombing a building that's only meant to help them, like the Red Cross, is helping, when in fact it is hurting them. But they want to show they don't want the U.S. there. We learned in Vietnam that no matter how much we defeat a people, and we killed 3 times the Vietnamese than they killed us, if they don't want us there, they will not have us there, by any means necessary to them.
 

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Re:Happy Ramadan!!!! Muslims Blow Up Red Cross Headquarters!!!!!!!
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2003, 09:29:23 PM »
Trauma, so according to you we had no right to bomb Afghanistan because WRONG IS WRONG.
 

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Re:Happy Ramadan!!!! Muslims Blow Up Red Cross Headquarters!!!!!!!
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2003, 09:35:55 PM »
America can bomb the shit out of any country and take over, but can America control the country? Looking at Afghanistan and Iraq, the answer is NO. We keep making the same mistakes over and over. What we won't do for some oil money.
 

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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2003, 09:36:31 PM »
Trauma, so according to you we had no right to bomb Afghanistan because WRONG IS WRONG.
I'm not Trauma, and I'm not going to speak for him, but we didn't aim for innocent civilians in Afghanistan. We didn't bomb the Red Cross building. We are sticking around there and making that place better. What did these fucks do today? Blew up a building full of people helping Iraqi's on purpose and then slithered away into a dark cave. Fuck them.
 

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Re:Happy Ramadan!!!! Muslims Blow Up Red Cross Headquarters!!!!!!!
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2003, 09:37:17 PM »
Happy Ramadan crackers 8)
 

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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2003, 09:38:17 PM »
Hey Sandy:

While Taliban and al-Queda remnants do still exist and are growing in number inside the country, their presence is tiny compared to what it was. The US is currently training a national army for Karzai to use to secure North Central Afghanistan. This involves training tens of thousands of men and will take years to acomplish. Currently the most pressing problem is getting the local warlords to release suitable fighting men from their private militias.
There are many many many problems in Afghanistan, and to think that they would be fixed automatically and quickly is naive. Afghanistan was and is the embodiment of the wild west. With a strong military presence now based in Iraq, the US can directly pressure hostile Afghani elements to make the slow and painful transition to towards (I emphasize towards) modernity (a long way to go).
 

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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2003, 09:38:57 PM »
It's funny to see you get schooled, then bring out the racial insults when you know you've lost an argument.
 

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Re:Happy Ramadan!!!! Muslims Blow Up Red Cross Headquarters!!!!!!!
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2003, 09:41:28 PM »

 It's to be viewed this way..

 The Red Cross Organozation was viewed as an occupation of Foriegn nationals in Iraq.
 By bombing the Org. buildin' they possibly want to stress that they would never tolerate any foriegn bodies in their beloved motherland.
 As a matter of fact they were unfortunate victims who were made the scapegoat in the ensuing struggle betn. the Iraqis and the Occupying Forces.
 
 I do not applaud them in any way.. what they did was extremely wrong.. henious.

 It's just that we need to look @ things from the perspective of those who suffer and retaliate..
 
 

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Re:Happy Ramadan!!!! Muslims Blow Up Red Cross Headquarters!!!!!!!
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2003, 09:41:35 PM »
Trauma, so according to you we had no right to bomb Afghanistan because WRONG IS WRONG.
I'm not Trauma, and I'm not going to speak for him, but we didn't aim for innocent civilians in Afghanistan. We didn't bomb the Red Cross building. We are sticking around there and making that place better. What did these fucks do today? Blew up a building full of people helping Iraqi's on purpose and then slithered away into a dark cave. Fuck them.


Didn't aim for innocent civilians? Do you know how many children die in Iraq each year because of what we did/are doing? Do you also know that the U.S. violated international laws with its sanctions, because according to the Geneva Convention no country is allowed to attack another country's civilians in any way. Sanctions do exactly that because the people were harmed not Saddam. Saddam actually gained from them. In the Gulf War we bombed  electric facilities, water reservoirs, etc... you think that doesn't kill civilians? Open your fuckin mind up a little
 

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Re:Happy Ramadan!!!! Muslims Blow Up Red Cross Headquarters!!!!!!!
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2003, 09:47:26 PM »
Trauma, so according to you we had no right to bomb Afghanistan because WRONG IS WRONG.
I'm not Trauma, and I'm not going to speak for him, but we didn't aim for innocent civilians in Afghanistan. We didn't bomb the Red Cross building. We are sticking around there and making that place better. What did these fucks do today? Blew up a building full of people helping Iraqi's on purpose and then slithered away into a dark cave. Fuck them.

 
Didn't aim for innocent civilians? Do you know how many children die in Iraq each year because of what we did/are doing? Do you also know that the U.S. violated international laws with its sanctions, because according to the Geneva Convention no country is allowed to attack another country's civilians in any way. Sanctions do exactly that because the people were harmed not Saddam. Saddam actually gained from them. In the Gulf War we bombed  electric facilities, water reservoirs, etc... you think that doesn't kill civilians? Open your fuckin mind up a little

 Well there's a bit of truth in that statement.. Many Iraqi deaths go unreported as most of the news the  press  gets hold of is thru the american millitary press releases. and They naturally will glorify only the American Martrydom raather than some poor Iraqi dying on teh streets..