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kottonmouthninja

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Re:what do mormons believe?
« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2003, 09:54:21 PM »
The stuff yall have said in this thread makes me sick.  If a man isn't man enough to respect another's religion, he's not worth my time.  My post did nothing; I tried to explain what Mormons believe, but nobody cares.  All they care about is what they can laugh at and point fingers at.  I'm not in that class, I'm above that, so I think it's time I just quit even trying, I'm not helping anybody, and nobody is any better because of any effort I give on this board.  

your post answered my question
 

Don Breezio

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Re:what do mormons believe?
« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2003, 09:57:34 PM »
you guys pay no attention to trauma...hes on some PMS shit tonight...the dude said in another thread that i am dissing him in this one? i havent said shit about him in this one...and i havent said shit about his religion other than giving an example...and i never said all of them were like that...im fairly certain that trauma does not rape his family. i dont know him so i cant say that for sure but he doesnt seem like the family raping kind of guy. but seriously trauma you're grouchy tonight...i mean more so than usual...you have no respect for anyone elses opinions tonight.
 

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Re:what do mormons believe?
« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2003, 09:58:47 PM »
Lot of ignorance here.

Mormons believe that shortly after Jesus died, the church of Jesus Christ on the earth became corrupt, and lost it's priesthood authority (which was passed down from Adam all the way to John the Baptist, and then given to Jesus Christ by the laying on of hands).  That's why the Catholic church, which Christ actually founded through Peter as the Church of Jesus Christ, became so corrupt in the dark ages, etc.  They had no preisthood authority, which is the power to act in the name of god as a priest of his church.

In 1830 a young boy named Joseph Smith claimed he saw God & Jesus, and they appeared to him and told him where a book was buried.  He claimed he dug up the book, and translated it into what has become the book of mormon, a book compiled by an ancient american writer named, ironically, mormon.  It tells of a lost tribe of Israel that moved to the Americas around 600 B.C., apparently with God's intent being to preserve a copy of the bible in America without the corruption that would take place in Christ's church after his death (the book would be buried in America, to be reopened later).  

Smith claimed he was visited not only by God, and Christ, but by several ressurrected beings, Peter, James, and John, John the Baptist, and the priest who hid the book, Moroni.  

Joseph Smith was hated for his views, and the members of his church (which he tought was the restored church of Christ on the earth) were driven from Ohio, New York, and other states.  Smith was eventually killed by a mob while in Prison, but never once denied his story, even after his family was threatened, the harsh winter weather on the move killed one of his children, etc. etc.  

The Mormons moved west, and settled in Utah, where they probably killed a ton of Indians who had the land before them, I don't know, that's what Native American's apparently believe.  Since generally, this is how we aquired all of America, I imagine it's correct.  I don't know about the idea that they brought weed to Utah, but Mormons were counseled before they even left for Utah by Joseph Smith that God had told him Wine, Tobacco, and Caffiene were damaging to the body, and that it was a 'word of wisdom' from God not to take any of those products into their body, of course since then time has basically proven he was correct on all 3.  Mormons can drink tea or caffiene or Wine or Coffee if they want, but most choose not to.

Mormons do believe in Hell, they just believe you have to be a pretty bad person to go there.  They believe in 3 heavens, because it's mentioned by Paul in 1st Corinthians, in the new Testament (I think several christian religions believe in Levels of Heaven).  

The book of Mormon tells the story of the history of the Americas (from a mormon belief), and early on in the book, there's a story of a king telling the Jewish people in America that it's against God's will to marry more than 1 woman.... When the Mormons moved to Utah, many, many Mormons died on the trip, because they left Ohio late in the fall, and travelled through the winter.  Since Mormons believe it's a sin to live with a woman who's not your wife, many of the single women who had no husband or who's husband died on the trip opted to marry a man who was already married.  Although I'm sure there were exceptions, most instances of Mormon Polygamy were out of necessity, not because they were trying to get their rocks off with 2 or 3 different women.  The president of the church at the time, Brigham Young was married to several women, mainly because he was a fairly rich man.
   In the years to come, Mormons repeatedly tried to build a temple in Salt Lake city (where they settled) only to have problem after problem arise, the U.S. government even sent the U.S. army to Utah to destroy the temple, which Brigham Young had buried under the Utah sand to save it.  
   The main purpose of the Mormon temples around the world is to marry two mormons found worthy of a temple or celestial marriage by the church Priesthood.  The secondary purpose of the temple is to perform baptisms in proxy for all the people of the world who have died without hearing Christ's message, or having joined Christ's church.  Mormons believe that if you baptise in proxy someone who died 200 years or so, their spirit which has been in a spiritual world can be freed to enter the church of Christ, and go on to join him in Heaven.  They also believe the spirit has the choice not to accept the baptism into Christ's church, but they feel that any spirit who has passed on would jump at the opportunity.

  Mormons really aren't that weird.  If you talk to any, they're just really spiritual christians.  They're basically hated by other christians though, most christians don't feel that Mormons respect the sacrifice of Christ, since mormons feel that you aren't saved by Christ's grace alone, you have to work and do good deeds in order to be saved by Christ's grace (as it says in John chapters 3 and 4).

  Ask any christian about Mormons, and most will tell you they're polygamists, They don't believe in the 'christian' christ, they made up the book of mormon, added to the bible, etc. etc. etc.  They're very persecuted, and it's a shame, really, because you'll never hear a mormon say a negative word about anybody.  As a matter of fact, most mormons believe that almost anyone can enter heaven, no matter what religion you are.  

so i was a little off with the things i said...it was close enough
 

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Re:what do mormons believe?
« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2003, 09:59:31 PM »
It's not really you, it's just the general immaturity of everybody, and how online people don't even respect other's religions.  I'm not learning anything here, and I'm not teaching anything, all I'm doing is participating in negativity.  Yall dont' need me to help you do that, and I don't need to hear it from yall.  I'm nothing like the people yall portray, and I don't have anything in common with hardly anybody on here.  Many people on here hate me just because I'm different from them, and I'm sick of having my religion, my race, my country, my state, my family, and everything else insulted. When my father died, one of the only things that kept me from collapsing was my friends, most of whom were Mormon.  They were there for me when my mom contracted cancer, when I couldn't find a job, when my entire life is filled with stress and responsibilities, these were the people that were always good to me.  It was Mormons who brought me food when I couldn't hardly walk, it was mormons who called me every day to make sure everyting was cool, it was Mormons who pitched in and were there for me when I was the most vulnerable I've ever been in my life.  These people treated me better than anybody in my entire life has, didn't want anything in return, and at the same time, to see people talk trash about them breaks my heart, I want nothing to do with that, so I'll bow out now, hopefully I can resist the urge to post here anymore, it does none of us any good.  Call me soft, call me whatever, but the childish stuff on this post just reminds me I have no place here.  Peace~
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Re:what do mormons believe?
« Reply #34 on: November 23, 2003, 10:04:30 PM »
It's not really you, it's just the general immaturity of everybody, and how online people don't even respect other's religions.  I'm not learning anything here, and I'm not teaching anything, all I'm doing is participating in negativity.  Yall dont' need me to help you do that, and I don't need to hear it from yall.  I'm nothing like the people yall portray, and I don't have anything in common with hardly anybody on here.  Many people on here hate me just because I'm different from them, and I'm sick of having my religion, my race, my country, my state, my family, and everything else insulted. When my father died, one of the only things that kept me from collapsing was my friends, most of whom were Mormon.  They were there for me when my mom contracted cancer, when I couldn't find a job, when my entire life is filled with stress and responsibilities, these were the people that were always good to me.  These people treated me better than anybody in my entire life has, and at the same time, to see people talk trash about them breaks my heart, I want nothing to do with that, so I'll bow out now, hopefully I can resist the urge to post here anymore, it does none of us any good.  Call me soft, call me whatever, but the childish stuff on this post just reminds me I have no place here.  Peace~


i have to admit, the guy i knew was a cool guy.....a little forceful when it came to him invinting us over his house but he was friendly, too bad his wife was a philipino mormon that he met over the net......i guess you could say she believed in polygamy with out the vows....

but yeah he never said anything bad about anyone else (except the creaters of south park for making that movie Orgazmo.....hilarious if you see it)

i know i've probably butchered the things he told me but oh well didn't mean to make it offensive......and just cause a couple of people do something  bad, doesn't make all of them bad

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Don Breezio

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Re:what do mormons believe?
« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2003, 10:10:16 PM »
It's not really you, it's just the general immaturity of everybody, and how online people don't even respect other's religions.  I'm not learning anything here, and I'm not teaching anything, all I'm doing is participating in negativity.  Yall dont' need me to help you do that, and I don't need to hear it from yall.  I'm nothing like the people yall portray, and I don't have anything in common with hardly anybody on here.  Many people on here hate me just because I'm different from them, and I'm sick of having my religion, my race, my country, my state, my family, and everything else insulted. When my father died, one of the only things that kept me from collapsing was my friends, most of whom were Mormon.  They were there for me when my mom contracted cancer, when I couldn't find a job, when my entire life is filled with stress and responsibilities, these were the people that were always good to me.  It was Mormons who brought me food when I couldn't hardly walk, it was mormons who called me every day to make sure everyting was cool, it was Mormons who pitched in and were there for me when I was the most vulnerable I've ever been in my life.  These people treated me better than anybody in my entire life has, didn't want anything in return, and at the same time, to see people talk trash about them breaks my heart, I want nothing to do with that, so I'll bow out now, hopefully I can resist the urge to post here anymore, it does none of us any good.  Call me soft, call me whatever, but the childish stuff on this post just reminds me I have no place here.  Peace~

alright...i just felt like you were kind of singleing me out and attacking me more than anyone...i didnt know you'd been through all that...i got a lot of respect for you for doing that...i've never lost a parent to death but i lost my dad in another way...i'll explain later if you want me to but its not important. im not trying to disrespect mormons...but some have some messed up things going on in their mind...just like some christians do, some buddhists do, some catholics do, etc...im not trying to single out 1 religion. its just that this was a topic on mormonism so thats what i used as an example...my best friend is mormon and i love her to death, my ex girlfriend is mormon and while i wouldnt tell her this...i love her. the difference between you and me is 1) you've been through more than i have and had people there to help you along the way, 2) the stuff i have been through i havent really had people there to help me...i dont fit in with my friends...in fact i dont fit in with anyone i went to high school with...i live in a town where the majority of people are farmers. and so are my friends...its tough to do that and expect people to be there for you when you dont even fit in with your own friends...i love my friends but we dont have anything in common. my family says they are there but i've never felt like i could talk to them. the only person i ever had that was there for me when i needed someone was a teacher i had who i've known for several years...i've never had a firm belief in god...i do believe in god i just do not have a set religion...i dont really believe in it i guess...i guess its because i believe that god is made out to be more than he is...
 

UnstoppableForce

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Re:what do mormons believe?
« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2003, 10:18:41 PM »
Trauma you constantly trash Muslims, but when one person says something about your religion you start whining about not having a place on the board. Stop being such a jackass, and people will respect you and your religion. Honestly, I have nothing against Mormons. Every religion has things that people of other religions would find hard to understand, but that doesn't make the religion "wrong". The only reason I said the things I said was to see you react exactly the way you did.
 

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Re:what do mormons believe?
« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2003, 11:25:01 PM »
^ YOU'RE SUCH A DAMN HYPOCRIT....


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UnstoppableForce

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Re:what do mormons believe?
« Reply #38 on: November 24, 2003, 12:01:19 AM »
^ YOU'RE SUCH A DAMN HYPOCRIT....

I was technically admitting to being one. I guess for a beaner I have to actually say it: I'M PURPOSELY BEING A "HYPOCRIT". Comprendes?
I don't mean half the shit I say, I just say it to play along with your dumb asses. I never said anything negative about anyone when I first came to the board, until I saw the ignorant comments made by many. So I decided to join you idiots.
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Freedom2Rythym

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Re:what do mormons believe?
« Reply #39 on: November 24, 2003, 01:10:00 PM »
What These Mormons Do Sounds Sick To Me. I Will Never Understand It.
 

UnstoppableForce

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Re:what do mormons believe?
« Reply #40 on: November 24, 2003, 02:37:48 PM »
What These Mormons Do Sounds Sick To Me. I Will Never Understand It.

Just keep up-to-date with the Michael Jackson situation, and you'll have a pretty good understanding of what Mormons feel and believe.
I swear I can picture a Mormon family gathered around the TV watching this shit and listening to Michael Jackson say "There is nothing wrong with sharing your love in a bed with those you love" and the whole Mormon family saying "that's exactly what we've been trying to tell people"
 

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Re:what do mormons believe?
« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2003, 02:41:10 PM »
What These Mormons Do Sounds Sick To Me. I Will Never Understand It.

Just keep up-to-date with the Michael Jackson situation, and you'll have a pretty good understanding of what Mormons feel and believe.
I swear I can picture a Mormon family gathered around the TV watching this shit and listening to Michael Jackson say "There is nothing wrong with sharing your love in a bed with those you love" and the whole Mormon family saying "that's exactly what we've been trying to tell people"


This Is Absolutely Sick. I Think The U.S. Should Ban Mormonism.
 

UnstoppableForce

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Re:what do mormons believe?
« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2003, 02:45:39 PM »
^^ Good point. I mean FUCKING YOUR OWN SISTER. Just think about it. Trauma kill yourself you sick-minded bitch.I hope you burn in hell which you probably will for taking part in shit like this.
 

UnstoppableForce

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« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2003, 02:46:30 PM »
^^ Good point. I mean FUCKING YOUR OWN SISTER. Just think about it. Trauma kill yourself you sick-minded bitch.I hope you burn in hell which you probably will for taking part in shit like this.
 

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Re:what do mormons believe?
« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2003, 05:04:18 PM »
^ YOU'RE SUCH A DAMN HYPOCRIT....

I was technically admitting to being one. I guess for a beaner I have to actually say it: I'M PURPOSELY BEING A "HYPOCRIT". Comprendes?
I don't mean half the shit I say, I just say it to play along with your dumb asses. I never said anything negative about anyone when I first came to the board, until I saw the ignorant comments made by many. So I decided to join you idiots.


a hypocritical bigotted arab.....not uncommon for you people


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