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Building a future for British children
« on: November 28, 2003, 12:15:20 PM »
Any Brits agree/disagree with the policies of the British National Party? What are your overall thoughts on the BNP and there overwhelming sanity of what they believe in?

 

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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2003, 12:27:09 PM »
i know nothing about it... sure many others dont.. please explain more
 

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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2003, 12:28:37 PM »
hang on, fuck that, they're neo-nazi racists..
 

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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2003, 12:46:08 PM »
Neo-Nazi racists?

Hardly.

Its a common misunderstanding that BNP are a racist organisation, mostly because of the bias of BBC and other TV channels.

Racists hate people of a different ethnic background. The BNP certainly don't hate such people. They believe that the heritage of Britain should be kept intact. The ethnicity and cultural background of the British is been destroyed.

They also support capital punishment, are against homosexual propoganda, and would put OAPs ahead of asylum seekers.
 

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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2003, 01:04:40 PM »
try looking on google for BNP and racist...


and about "maintaing heritage" they're on some "back to africa"  "back to india" etc etc  type shit..


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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2003, 01:54:50 PM »
with the way asylum etc. been goin in recent years they have been growing in popularity

iraq would just get annexed by iran


That would be a great solution.  If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
 

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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2003, 01:58:55 PM »
yeah i know.. but they're talking about taking people who arent "ethnically" british and "sending them home".. including those born here..
 

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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2003, 02:10:22 PM »
how, by fixing thier teeth? hehe sorry i just had to say that!
 

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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2003, 02:28:14 PM »
yeah i know.. but they're talking about taking people who arent "ethnically" british and "sending them home".. including those born here..

They want asylum seekers sent straight back and there willing to pay immigrants enough money to set up in their native country.
 

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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2003, 03:13:27 PM »
google news link for the search "BNP RACIST"

http://news.google.com/news?q=BNP+racist&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&sa=N&scoring=d

this is a few days old...

"The 1990 Trust warns that David Blunkett’s new asylum Bill will be ruthlessly
exploited by racist extremists like the BNP, causing an upsurge in racism "


ok lets try some other shit

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Q: The politicians and the media call the BNP "racist"? Is this true?

A: No. "Racism" is when you ‘hate’ another ethnic group. We don't 'hate' black people, we don't 'hate' Asians, we don't oppose any ethnic group for what God made them, they have a right to their own identity as much as we do, all we want to do is to preserve the ethnic and cultural identity of the British people. We want the same human rights as everyone else, a right to a homeland, security, identity, democracy and freedom. We are not against immigrants as individuals. We are against a system which imports cheap labour regardless of the wishes of the host population. The British people were never asked if they wanted a multi-cultural society, immigration was forced on us undemocratically and against the clear wishes of the majority.


Q: What solutions does the BNP offer to the immigration problem?


A: The first thing a BNP government would do is to stop all further mass immigration into Britain. Then we would put in place a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those foreigners resident in Britain would be encouraged to return to their lands of origin. We would offer them the proper cash provisions to do this. This would stop, reduce and then reverse the headlong rush to a majority ethnic Britain. This scenario would benefit not only the native British people, who would secure themselves a homeland, but those of foreign origin who would take invaluable benefits to their own countries by using the skills and money they acquired in Britain to help their lands of native origins develop. It is the only answer to the present problem, the alternative is that the British people become a minority and face an uncertain future as second class citizens in our own land.



Q: When you talk about being "British" what do you mean?


A: We mean the bonds of culture, race, identity and roots of the native British peoples of the British Isles. We have lived in these islands near on 40,000 years! We were made by these islands, and these islands are our home. When we in the BNP talk about being British, we talk about the native peoples who have lived in these islands since before the Stone Age, and the relatively small numbers of peoples of almost identical stock, such as the Saxons, Vikings and Normans, and the Irish, who have come here and assimilated.


Q: Why are you against mixed-raced relationships?


A: We are against mixed-raced relationships because we believe that all species and races of life on this planet are beautiful and must be preserved. When whites take partners from other ethnic groups, a white family line that stretches back into deep pre-history is destroyed. And, of course, the same is true of the non-white side. We want generations that spring from us to be the same as us, look like us, and be moved by the same things as us. We feel that to preserve the rich tapestry of mankind, we must preserve ethnic differences, not ‘mish-mash’ them together.

quoted directly from their website http://www.bnp.org.uk/faq.html#racist


or maybe you should read this...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNP


associations with neo-nazi's? KKK? u blind?

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Re:Building a future for British children
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2003, 04:46:53 PM »
on asylum i think we should adopt an approach like holland where the true seekers will be help in the necessary ways and the economic migrants get sent home. holland got it to a tee. if we had it like they do asylum wouldn't be an issue

iraq would just get annexed by iran


That would be a great solution.  If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
 

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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2003, 05:56:30 AM »
well the most stupid thing is.. they're supposed to claim asylum in the first safe country they get to to right?

but NO.. they come the UK... we're a fuckin island.. you have to come via another safe country...

but these BNP fascists are talkin bout sending EVERY non white anglo-saxon home.. black, yellow, green, purple.. whatever colour..
 

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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2003, 09:53:09 AM »
The BNP
The BNP declared in its 1997 manifesto, Britain Reborn,
"The horrifying future that awaits Britain as a result of the follies of Third World
immigration can only be averted if we adopt two very firm policies:

1) Future immigration of non-whites must be stopped;
2) Non-whites already here must be repatriated or otherwise resettled overseas and Britain made once again a white country".

The BNP has dropped its policy of compulsory repatriation and replaced it with a voluntary scheme in order to remove the Nazi label that follows from such a policy. A move designed to win over supporters. The BNP claims that a BNP-led government would consider forcible repartition if not enough "non-whites" took up its offer.

The BNP is in favour of an apartheid state in Britain. Current party literature proposes to "protect and preserve the racial and cultural integrity. Native Britons", whom it claims can only be whites, would be given priority in the job market. "Non-whites" would instantly become second-class citizens in Britain. Any black person who commits a crime would also be thrown out of the country, even those who were born here. Mixed-race relationships would be outlawed.

BNP leader Nick Griffin told Wales on Sunday in 1996. "We must preserve the white race, because it has been responsible for all the good things in civilisation."
Nick Griffin was convicted of incitement to racial hatred in April 1998.

The BNP has a long relationship with William Pierce, leader of the National Alliance, one of the most hardline Nazi groups in the USA.The BNP also sends a regular delegation to the far-right Front National's annual red, white, and blue festival in France. David Duke, a former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, is close to Nick Griffin and the BNP. Griffin has regularly shared platforms with Duke. Nick Griffin in the 80’s supported the Ayatollah Khomeini’s fundamentalist regime in Iran, and sought backing from Libya’s Colonel Gaddafi.

BNP leader Nick Griffin described the Holocaust as the "Holohoax", Griffin launched an attack on Holocaust denier David Irving for playing the "numbers game" in Issue 11 of The Rune. This attack followed  Irving's admission in an interview that up to four million Jews died in the Holocaust. Griffin  wrote: "True revisionists will not be fooled by this new twist to the sorry tale of the Hoax of the Twentieth Century".

In another article he wrote, "I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that 6 million Jews were gassed and cremated or turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the earth is flat... I have reached the conclusion that the 'extermination' tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter witch-hysteria."  

Griffin has also held staunchly homophobic views throughout his time at the BNP. Following the bombing of a gay pub in Soho, in which three people died, Griffin wrote, "The TV footage of dozens of 'gay' demonstrators flaunting their Perversion in front of the world's journalists showed just why so many ordinary people find these creatures so repulsive.

BNP has recently claimed that Al-Qia’da is the true form of Islam and that moderate Muslims who want to live peacefully with other religions are non-believers. This is clear incitement and distortion. The BNP has said “The BNP has no objection to Muslims having their own places of worship – providing they are in Muslim countries and not in Britain”.

Nazi group Combat 18 was initially launched as a stewarding group for the BNP. C18 later emerged as a nazi terror group, responsible for a letter bomb campaign and a series of murders. C18 thugs, made up of football hooligans and nazi skinheads, protected BNP meetings and minded BNP leaders during party marche

The Group Development officer of the BNP is Tony Lecomber, a convicted bomber who also has charges under his belt for attacking a Jewish teacher on the underground. Lecomber took part in the assault after the man tried to remove a BNP sticker that had just been put up. In 1985 he was convicted on five counts for offences under the Explosives Act, including possession of home-made hand-grenades and electronic timing devices. Sentenced to three years' imprisonment

Fuck The BNP and anyone who supports them, a vote for the BNP is a racist vote, the are Nazis.
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Re:Building a future for British children
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2003, 10:00:00 AM »
The BNP dont represent me or my country.

Im not gonna get into the asylum debate, people spend too much time blaming asylum seekers for taking all they can get instead of blaming Blair and Blunkett for letting them.  

Anyway there are more important issues like the unbelieveably high rate of teenage pregnancy, the rise of gun crime, the amount of little girls turning up dead in ditches and the rise in hate crime in Britain.  What is the BNP's stance on these issues?



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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2003, 12:03:04 PM »
on asylum i think we should adopt an approach like holland where the true seekers will be help in the necessary ways and the economic migrants get sent home. holland got it to a tee. if we had it like they do asylum wouldn't be an issue

Why should we accept any asylum seekers? Like Overseer said, you're meant to claim asylum in the first safe country. This means that we should only be getting Asylum seekers from surrounding countries such as Ireland, France and Holland (currently safe).
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« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2003, 12:50:05 PM »
Teenage preganancy has always been common. I don't know the figures so can't really comment. Who says teenage precnancy is a bad thing anyway? Simply your opionon that things have to be done on teenage precnancy. (I'm not saying that I think teenage pregnancy has a positive affect on the community)

I can safely say that Gun crimes would decrease if BNP were in power.

Unfortunately, young girls will always be targeted by sick minded people. All BNP can do is give knowledge to young people on preventing themselves from been targeted, surely something that the people in power currently in the UK haven't done a terribly good job on.

Contrary to popular belief, most race hate attacks are on white people. The left wing media does a good job of keeping this under wraps.
 

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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2003, 06:06:56 AM »
on asylum i think we should adopt an approach like holland where the true seekers will be help in the necessary ways and the economic migrants get sent home. holland got it to a tee. if we had it like they do asylum wouldn't be an issue

Why should we accept any asylum seekers? Like Overseer said, you're meant to claim asylum in the first safe country. This means that we should only be getting Asylum seekers from surrounding countries such as Ireland, France and Holland (currently safe).

The majority of Asylum Seekers have come from countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Zimbabwe, all of which Britain has had a influence in bombing or invading, most people go to the nearest country, there were are over a million refugees in pakistan from Afghanistan. People come to Britain because for some reason they see britain as a great country where they want to make a new life, alot speak English, listen to BBC world service or have family in Britain. I'll happily exchange asylum seekers for any BNP scum like you.

According to a recent Home Office study, migrants, including asylum seekers and refugees contribute 10 per cent more to the economy in taxes and national insurance than they consume in benefits and public services - making a net fiscal contribution of approximately 2.5 billion (1999-2000), worth 1p on income tax. For every one percent immigration into the UK there is a two percent increase in the wages of the non-migrant workforce.

The UK gives asylum seekers less financial support than other European countries. An adult asylum seeker receives £37.77 a week. Asylum seekers are not allowed to work for their first 6 months of residence.

In 2001, the UK received less than 0.01 per cent of the global refugee population

why dont you fuck off to a nazi or white power message board.
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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2003, 05:53:45 PM »
my parents r from england and they are pissed off about these towelheads coming there and takin all the jobs

i dont think we should kick the blacks out cus they were brought there by us for their free work which we appreciate but hindus pakis and asians need 2 get the fuck out

harry roberts what city u from? im from liverpool well not me but my parents
 

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« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2003, 08:06:09 AM »
The majority of Asylum Seekers have come from countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Zimbabwe, all of which Britain has had a influence in bombing or invading, most people go to the nearest country, there were are over a million refugees in pakistan from Afghanistan. People come to Britain because for some reason they see britain as a great country where they want to make a new life, alot speak English, listen to BBC world service or have family in Britain. I'll happily exchange asylum seekers for any BNP scum like you.

According to a recent Home Office study, migrants, including asylum seekers and refugees contribute 10 per cent more to the economy in taxes and national insurance than they consume in benefits and public services - making a net fiscal contribution of approximately 2.5 billion (1999-2000), worth 1p on income tax. For every one percent immigration into the UK there is a two percent increase in the wages of the non-migrant workforce.

The UK gives asylum seekers less financial support than other European countries. An adult asylum seeker receives £37.77 a week. Asylum seekers are not allowed to work for their first 6 months of residence.

In 2001, the UK received less than 0.01 per cent of the global refugee population

why dont you fuck off to a nazi or white power message board.

Quote as many facts you want to me, but reports have shown that in 60 years time we'll be the minority in our own country. I don't want my grandchildren growing up in a place like that.
 

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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2003, 06:41:50 AM »

This is all Bs...


...people are never gonna agree...now maybe the BnP is a "non racist" organisation...but from my own personal experience is most certainly is...BnP and combat 18 are brothers...i dont want to talk about shit ive seen in the past on here but im sure some of you have experienced the brutality (uglyness) yourselves...


sure there are some non "extreme" people in that group...just like the ira huh ? disarmourment my arse! friendly face with the most violent sick group really running things behind...
...i cant condone the thought of many of my friends who have lived here for maybe only one generation or maybe 4 / 400 being sent to a place that isnt home just because thats where their great great grandpappy came from...fuc that!

What about the black population paid and encouraGEd to come here as recently as 40/50 years ago...they were sourced and required by OUR population and OUR government, and if WE wanted a British Commonwealth we should be prepared to accept people from our own provinces to live and work freely here...

...so the debate about people from certain ethnic backgrounds is shut imo...

...i do however agree partly on the immigration front...but this is so sticky that noone can win...i think we are hard done by in a certain sense when its so difficult for us to go to countries like us...canada...new zealand etc to live and work...but that is down to THAT counties legalities and policies...

...we have shite policies therefore every man and his dog after a free ride here for them and their extended families can immigrate here no problems...if questions are asked they simply disappear...

...but i am not saying this of most i see...some people have survived atrocities we cannot imagine...live in fear of not their own lives but for their children / parents / dependants...they have a right to flee persecution to whereever they want...

the thing that really gets me is the fact that as Seer stated...they travel through at least 3 or 4 "friendly" countries to get here...often risking their lives in the way they travel...this is insane!

Whats wrong with equal distribution...shared responsability by the EU countries (and outside)


thats what its supposed to be about anyway...if countries dont help each other...whats the point of a union
 

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« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2003, 04:08:29 PM »
If I was British, I would definitely belong to the BNP. It is about time someone began to stand up for British people and their culture. Why the hell should they become minorities in their own country? Why the hell should they let their country begin to resemble a third world country?

There is nothing racist about wanting to preserve your country and your culture. Otherwise, that makes every group of people in the world racist. Unfortunately, opponents of the BNP dubb them racist because they can't come up with an intelligent argument to dispute what they are saying.

Anyway, props to the BNP. Thre is a reason why they are beocming increasingly popular in that country.
 

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« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2003, 04:13:06 PM »
Anyway there are more important issues like the unbelieveably high rate of teenage pregnancy, the rise of gun crime, the amount of little girls turning up dead in ditches and the rise in hate crime in Britain.  What is the BNP's stance on these issues?


I bet all of those things have a direct correlation to the massive third world immigration that occurs in England.
 

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« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2003, 12:10:13 AM »
Why the hell should they let their country begin to resemble a third world country?

so diversity makes a country a third world country? first of all u should learn what a third world country is by definition. secondly, u r calling the u.s. a third world country.
 

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« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2003, 04:11:26 PM »
White people are not going to become a minority, around 93% of the population in Britain is White out of about 60 million people. There are not going to 50 million non white people coming to this country in the next 60 years.

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There is nothing racist about wanting to preserve your country and your culture. Otherwise, that makes every group of people in the world racist. Unfortunately, opponents of the BNP dubb them racist because they can't come up with an intelligent argument to dispute what they are saying.

The BNP are racist it is not debatable, they want to kick out all non white people from the country, ban mixed marriages and give white people advantages in getting jobs, that is not preserving your culture it is excluding every other culture probably because your scared that your culture is inferior, if you have a strong culture it will survive no matter if other people with a different culture live around you. Everyone benefits from a multicultral society.

Most of the BNP admire Adolf Hitler and the Ku Klux Klan. BNP Fuhrer Nick Griffin is a Holocaust denier. The BNP are lying to try and get more support by claiming to not be racist. They are Nazis.
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« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2004, 08:43:04 AM »
Neo-Nazi racists?

Hardly.

Its a common misunderstanding that BNP are a racist organisation, mostly because of the bias of BBC and other TV channels.

Racists hate people of a different ethnic background. The BNP certainly don't hate such people. They believe that the heritage of Britain should be kept intact. The ethnicity and cultural background of the British is been destroyed.

They also support capital punishment, are against homosexual propoganda, and would put OAPs ahead of asylum seekers.


There you go Seer