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Yo, Tech, answer this question a Christian askedme
« on: July 10, 2002, 12:35:09 PM »
Anyone else is welcome to drop in their two cents.

Yo Tech, my roomate (a Christian) and I like to have debates, Islam vs. Christianity, Palestine vs. Isreal.

He was telling me that it says in the Old Testament that the Jews were Gods chosen people and that He gave Jerusalam to the Jews.  And then thousands of years later, Muslims came and conquered some territories in Jerusalam, stole their land, and now that is the center of the Palestinian/Isreal conflict.  And since the Jews had it first, he takes Isreals side always.

How would you argue that point?
 

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Re: Yo, Tech, answer this question a Christian ask
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2002, 01:33:04 PM »
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Anyone else is welcome to drop in their two cents.

Yo Tech, my roomate (a Christian) and I like to have debates, Islam vs. Christianity, Palestine vs. Isreal.

He was telling me that it says in the Old Testament that the Jews were Gods chosen people and that He gave Jerusalam to the Jews.  And then thousands of years later, Muslims came and conquered some territories in Jerusalam, stole their land, and now that is the center of the Palestinian/Isreal conflict.  And since the Jews had it first, he takes Isreals side always.

How would you argue that point?

some will say tha land was rightfully theres 1st an some will say that they took over tha land thousands of years ago so that argument is irrevelant
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Re: Yo, Tech, answer this question a Christian ask
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2002, 07:52:02 PM »
if palestinians give back all the land they settled in thousands of years ago, does that mean that the american government has to give back everything to the Native Americans?....
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Re: Yo, Tech, answer this question a Christian ask
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2002, 08:22:13 PM »
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if palestinians give back all the land they settled in thousands of years ago, does that mean that the american government has to give back everything to the Native Americans?....


good point, its the same deal, hopefully palestinians wont get wiped out like that
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2002, 08:28:35 PM »
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good point, its the same deal, hopefully palestinians wont get wiped out like that


That wasn't what he was saying though dogg.... Jamal was comparing the Native Americans to the Jews and the Palestinians to the Americans.

And yo..... Tom actually said the right argument I think, but I'm still waitin on Tizzech
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Re: Yo, Tech, answer this question a Christian ask
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2002, 09:05:07 PM »
I dont take any side in the conflict anymore. It's too big of a mess with too much petty bullshit involved.
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Re: Yo, Tech, answer this question a Christian ask
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2002, 06:58:18 AM »
ive been avoiding the whole Mid East conflict because its so conflicting and frustrating but Ill attempt to answer ya question


umm...see the thing is, first of all the whole moral justification is way off, cuz you cant say this land belongs to so and so, cuz thats what my bible says

Muslims can say the same thing, "This is the Dome of the Rock, where the Prophet left for Heaven from".  We CAN use the same argument

Another thing is, Technically Arabs are the children of Abraham too. They are Semites as well just like the Jews.


And, when the Muslims controlled Jerusalem, Jews, Christains and Muslims lived in peace for centuries, but when the Jews took over, theres been bloodshed


Basically, I would tell em, that the whole argument is void, there cant be a justification based on a religious prophecy.
There is no precedent for that, and you simply cant take land from some one cuz your religion tells u, thats ethnocentricity, forcing your beliefs on everybody
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Re: Yo, Tech, answer this question a Christian ask
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2002, 09:53:31 PM »
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That wasn't what he was saying though dogg.... Jamal was comparing the Native Americans to the Jews and the Palestinians to the Americans.

And yo..... Tom actually said the right argument I think, but I'm still waitin on Tizzech


wow i actually said tha right thing
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Re: Yo, Tech, answer this question a Christian ask
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2002, 09:31:18 AM »
Im impressed Tom!!  :D
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Re: Yo, Tech, answer this question a Christian ask
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2002, 04:56:17 PM »
They should learn to share lizzol, its like they r running in circles over this shit

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