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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #50 on: June 18, 2002, 07:01:42 AM »
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So your telling me that in 1948 when the state of Israel was decleared that the land it was made up of was part of no country prior to that. That that land was land was not taken fron other countrys by the Untied Nations and then given to the Jews to live on.


exactlly, you should know this...be4, there waz the British mandat there and be4 that, there waz the Turkish mandat....there was no declared country\state there.
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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #51 on: June 18, 2002, 05:41:01 PM »
Okay here is break down of the whole Arab Israel situation as I see it.

The League of Nations approved in 1922 the British mandate of Palestine; Jews immigrated there in large numbers despite Arab opposition. There was tension and violence between Jews and Arabs, and the British, unable to resolve the problem, turned to the UN in 1947. In November 1947 the United Nations divided Palestine, then under British mandate, into Jewish and Arab states. Six months later the British withdrew, and on May 14, 1948, the state of Israel was proclaimed. This lead to a series of wars between Israel and its neighbors from 1948 until the late seventies. The result of these wars was that Israel captured large amounts of Arab land.

Skip forward some time to 2002, Arabs have for years now been attacking Jewish settlements in theses areas taken from them in the wars between the Arabs and Israel during 1950s, 60s and 70s, Israel has been retaliating with deadly force (much of which was provided by the U.S.A, Thus being the reason for so much of the anti-American feeling in the area) against the Palestinian people.

My feeling is that Israel needs to realize that if they continue to occupy Arab territories the Arab people will inflict suffering upon them and that they should return land back to the way it was in 1948, Until this happens I will always look upon Israel as the aggressor and Palestine as a people fighting for their land.
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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #52 on: June 19, 2002, 02:51:31 AM »
yo right to see it how ever you choose but you're simply wrong like many others imo, you see, there was no palestinian state there ever. they would never even claim to seek for it, if it waznt for their will to get the Jews out. also, you should know that most of Israelz wars were brought uppon Israel...and i don't remember many countrys returnin' occupied territories after WON wars like Israelz does....Israel does far beyond anythang any other peace seeking country does, but as long as there is terrorism, palestinianz and jews r going to suffer.


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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #53 on: June 19, 2002, 08:45:44 AM »
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Engelwood would you please respond to this?


How many times have you seen a thread in here critizing a country besides America?

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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #54 on: June 19, 2002, 11:28:52 AM »
America is the only world superpower
It is the only country that makes huge decisions
It is natural that it recieves attention

What has Finland ever done in the Middle East conflict?

See what I mean

Britain is the only other one that recieves a bit of criticism
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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #55 on: June 19, 2002, 11:48:34 AM »
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America is the only world superpower
It is the only country that makes huge decisions
It is natural that it recieves attention

What has Finland ever done in the Middle East conflict?

See what I mean



Britain is the only other one that recieves a bit of criticism


Perhaps now America is the only superpower... With the emergence of the EU, economically at least, this is becoming untrue.

America is the only country that makes huge decisions?? What about Other countries lack of making huge decisions?

What has finland ever done in the middle east conflict?

Nothing Thats the problem. At least America steps up to the plate and TRY's to help situations...
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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #56 on: June 19, 2002, 03:11:16 PM »
Yeah but that ain't what im sayin, Im sayin that if you going to say how good America is don't compare it to bad countries, Thats like comparing a chick you think is the finest chick in the world to a chick everyone including yourslef knows is a mutt.
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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #57 on: June 20, 2002, 01:33:24 AM »
Engel - that is what I am saying.  It's great the US gets involved but they have to be prepared to take criticism.  Can you not understand that?

And also you still haven't replied to the fact that America has free speech - but so does many other countries except we don't go around saying "I love my country because it gives me the right of free speech" - comment on that - America isn't the only one
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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #58 on: June 20, 2002, 11:18:46 AM »
How often do you hear threads on how horrible England treats the world?

How often do you hear threads about the horrible leadership of the Canadian government?

How often do you see threads critizing other countries and governments???

You dont. Thats the problem.

The time I see a thread critizing another freedom loving country, I'll go in that thread and stick up for it too...
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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #59 on: June 20, 2002, 11:39:37 AM »
Other countrires arn't getting critacized because they arn't trying to mess with the way other countries are run.
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