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Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate me..
« on: June 07, 2002, 10:35:22 AM »
Forget personal comments, petty arguments, bickering etc


Debate me, lets handle this like gentlemen


Open Challenge: On any three of these points

1) America has a right to Police the world

2) Is America justified in attacking Iraq?

3) Mid East Conflict: Suggestions for Peace

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"One day Alice came to a fork in the road and saw a Cheshire cat in a tree. "Which road do I take?" she asked. "Where do you want to go?" was his response. "I don't know," Alice answered. "Then," said the cat, "it doesn't matter."

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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2002, 11:06:11 PM »
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Forget personal comments, petty arguments, bickering etc


Debate me, lets handle this like gentlemen


Open Challenge: On any three of these points

1) America has a right to Police the world

2) Is America justified in attacking Iraq?

3) Mid East Conflict: Suggestions for Peace

saalamualaikum


1) No
2) No
3) ask God

LOL im done......later lil princess
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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2002, 02:42:54 AM »
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Forget personal comments, petty arguments, bickering etc


Debate me, lets handle this like gentlemen


Open Challenge: On any three of these points

1) America has a right to Police the world

2) Is America justified in attacking Iraq?

3) Mid East Conflict: Suggestions for Peace

saalamualaikum


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1.  You can never win with colonialism abroad.  There will never be peace, until America begins biulding relationships with these Muslim countries.  America only biuld relationships with countries they benefit from finanacially and countries in support of democracy and a global economy.  That needs to change.

2.  No.  Hasn't America already killed enough innocent people of Iraq through sanctions?

3.  See question 1.  Biulding relationships with countries even if they aren't democratic capatalists.

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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2002, 06:03:03 AM »
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Forget personal comments, petty arguments, bickering etc


Debate me, lets handle this like gentlemen


Open Challenge: On any three of these points

1) America has a right to Police the world

2) Is America justified in attacking Iraq?

3) Mid East Conflict: Suggestions for Peace

saalamualaikum


1) no we dont,  but dont front.  you know if we dont there goin be people from other countries bitching about how we have all this power an money an where not doing shit for other countries so no matter what we do it is a lose lose situation,  but i think at times america can be 2 much of a bully

2) dont know

3) like dogg jones said
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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2002, 05:20:08 PM »
1. No we do not have the right but as Tom187um said if we didn't get involved people would complain that we should use our power for the betterment of the world. Its happened befor when we didn't get involved in WWII and when the League of Nations was started.
2. I don't know enough about the situation with Iraq to make an intelligent argument.
3. The people of that area have to want peace not just there leaders but the citizens as a whole.
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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2002, 06:44:53 PM »
Nuff respect to all who posted


especially Tom and UW because u brought knowldge to the table, it is true America has a duty, but see if America dealt with everybody equally, and with the same amount of Justice, things would be better, but America loves some and hates some
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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2002, 07:17:00 PM »
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Forget personal comments, petty arguments, bickering etc


Debate me, lets handle this like gentlemen


Open Challenge: On any three of these points

1) America has a right to Police the world

2) Is America justified in attacking Iraq?

3) Mid East Conflict: Suggestions for Peace

saalamualaikum


1} like tom said, and PG..... they should start  biulding relationships with these Muslim countries, and not act so aggressively

2} I dont know much about this matter, so im just gonna say wht i know, sanctions and shit have killed many innocent ppl, but Saddam posses nuclear weapons, and Iraq is facist, so i guess usa fears saddam might fuck up other countries, and usa

3} THe leaders need to chill and disscuss this kinda shit....they should be wanting peace, and should be willing to live together peacefully cuz this shit aint gettin no one no where... and usa should not seek personal benifit or anything, they should treat each country equally and act mature

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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2002, 11:27:24 PM »
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1) America has a right to Police the world

2) Is America justified in attacking Iraq?

3) Mid East Conflict: Suggestions for Peace



1) No, but i dont think America does police the world, it polices what it wants to police. America is dealing with international terrorism, the only way it knows how, i may feel its wrong, but thats their business not mine.

2) Currently no, but if they can prove, publicly and beyond a shadow of a doubt that Iraq is undeniably linked substansially (i.e funding it etc) to terrorism, as they claim, then my opinion may change, but the evidence has to be undisputable.

3) Tough question, before there is peace, i feel both Arafat + Sharon should be ousted from their roles as leaders, one is a coward and the other a blood thristy soldier imo. Then a neutral nation (not US or Britain), needs to step in and mediate peace negotiations between Palestinian leaders and Israeli leaders, as Palestine will not negotiate with the people who have armed Israel unconditionally (USA). These steps, i think could go along way to peace, but these would be the foundation of peace.
 

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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2002, 11:35:55 PM »
1) No
2) Yes
3) Ask somebody else

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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2002, 02:49:59 AM »
1. No, but what Tom said is very true.
2. Not until we are attacked by them (IMO)
3. Get rid of all Nukes, and all weapons, and become a socialist utopia along with the rest of the world. (impossible, but a good dream)
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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2002, 03:44:51 AM »
1.i guess it"z the way it is, countrys that r most stable will always have more influence than others.

2.yes

3.there r two ways out (but untill we get to the point we can aply them it might take years), one way is, seperation and total sealing of any path ways between Israel and the authonomy, after destroying and cuting from the roots any terroristic activity ,then... declaring a palestinian state. the other way is (this one is more realistic...but still involves complete distruction of terroristic activity) establishing a new leadership in the authonomy(so it wont be left on self- distruction-mode under crooked dictatorship) which will recieve support money from peace supporting countrys and will use it to establish a proper financial system, educational system etc, and will not use the money to support terroristic organizations or activity in any way....declaration of a Plestinian state will follow if the experement reaches sucsess.
We are all human beings isn't that a good enough reason for peace?
 

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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2002, 03:56:12 AM »
1.  Countries with te most power and resources have the responsibility to use their wealth and influence to make the world a better place.  Thus America has a responsibility to help the world around them for non selfish reasons.

2.  America is justified in expressing its concern for the possible intentions of Iraq, but does not currently have sufficient reason for starting a war against the country.

3.  The eradication of crooked dicatatorships and Governments through the proliferation of real meaningful democracy.  A Palestinian state is also important for the purpose of relieving tension in the region.
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« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2002, 12:31:14 PM »
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1.  Countries with te most power and resources have the responsibility to use their wealth and influence to make the world a better place.  Thus America has a responsibility to help the world around them for non selfish reasons.




too bad America dont make the world a better place
too bad America fucks the world up for selfish reasons
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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2002, 02:30:18 PM »
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too bad America dont make the world a better place
too bad America fucks the world up for selfish reasons


i know i dont know as much bout worldly affairs as u do,  but r telling that america is tha only country that looks out for there own interest an does fucked up things
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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2002, 11:16:23 PM »
Princess: I never said they didn't act selfishly

I merely argued that America does have a right to police the world
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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2002, 09:10:46 AM »
Why you gotta call me Princess?

You know damn well Im Tech

You know damn well I lost a bet and this is my name for a week



Rub it in my face why dont u!!!!!

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"One day Alice came to a fork in the road and saw a Cheshire cat in a tree. "Which road do I take?" she asked. "Where do you want to go?" was his response. "I don't know," Alice answered. "Then," said the cat, "it doesn't matter."

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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2002, 05:47:02 PM »
I guess you dont like America? Big suprise. I guess you dont like our forgien policy. Wow, No kidding. I guess you think that America is always wrong. Well Shit. If you dont like America, why do you support it and listen to American music? Why does What we do bother you so much?

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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2002, 06:00:31 PM »
1. I agree that if America didnt step into other countries affairs then we'd be looked at even WORSE then we are now (for not helpin anyone). However we just go about shit the wrong way. Tha government needs to set up new policies, and like some others have said...set up relationships. Try to HELP other countries, without enforcing OUR way of life on them. How can we "police" the rest of the world, when we still cant "police" our own country right? Not THAT many years ago, tha LAPD and the NYPD were rated among some of tha worst institutions in the world...as far as injustices to citizens.
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« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2002, 06:41:45 PM »
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tha LAPD and the NYPD were rated among some of tha worst institutions in the world...as far as injustices to citizens.


word,  ask any1 in tha NYC an they hate tha police.  They treat each every person like shit,  white,  black,  spanish, asian, dont matter.  all tha cops come from long island so what they see on TV is what they think of tha 5 borroughs,  so they think every1 there is a scumbag.  tha NYPD is one of tha only police forces in america that u dont have to be living in tha city 2 be a cop
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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2002, 02:47:49 PM »
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I guess you dont like America? Big suprise. I guess you dont like our forgien policy. Wow, No kidding. I guess you think that America is always wrong. Well Shit. If you dont like America, why do you support it and listen to American music? Why does What we do bother you so much?

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I disagree with American foreign policy so that means I should stop listening to rap?

Youre a fuckin idiot man, LOL , holy fuck youre stupid!
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"One day Alice came to a fork in the road and saw a Cheshire cat in a tree. "Which road do I take?" she asked. "Where do you want to go?" was his response. "I don't know," Alice answered. "Then," said the cat, "it doesn't matter."

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Re: Forget the Fighting....Step in here to debate
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2002, 02:52:12 PM »
Super... You are the man!
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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2002, 03:08:49 PM »
stop rambling in incohesive sentences, step up like a man and let ya intelligence do the talking
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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2002, 04:16:17 PM »
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I guess you dont like America? Big suprise. I guess you dont like our forgien policy. Wow, No kidding. I guess you think that America is always wrong. Well Shit. If you dont like America, why do you support it and listen to American music? Why does What we do bother you so much?

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LMAO!!!!! That's like saying "You think Aftermath Records shouldn't of released Truth Hurts, so why you listen to Eminem?"
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LMAO!!!!! That's like saying "You think Aftermath Records shouldn't of released Truth Hurts, so why you listen to Eminem?"


The point I was trying to make, is that there is SOOOOOO much anti-americanism on this board, but you forget who popularized the music you listen to. It wasnt Canada, It wasnt saudia Arabia, It wasnt Iraq... It was America.

Also,  Buy purchasing American CD's, you go aginst the boycott in the Arab world aginst American goods.
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« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2002, 05:18:21 PM »
1. I wouldn't care if America or any other country stepped up and looked out for the rest of the world as long as they do it soley for the benefit fo the people of the region they are interfering in, Fact is alot of the time they don't, It is all about what they can get out of it (Not just America either)

2. No, They can drive Iraq out of ocupied land but they ain't got no right to attack Iraq it's self unless the majority of the people of Iraq were rebelling against the governmet and were asking for American help, But attacking a country cause you don't like the way the act within their own borders is not right.

3.Give the Palestinians their land back, Most countries supported the creation of Israel cause they felt guilty after the holocaust, But the fact is you can't just take land of another country and not expect them to fight to get it back.
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