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CHRISTIANS THE TRUTH
« on: June 09, 2002, 01:05:27 AM »
i read sum wer that christain religion woz invented for the soul purpose of maling profit. just think of it. it woz law that every sunday you had to go to church. and wat happened at church ?? yes thats rite tax collection so it got me thinking is there truly a god is there truly a jesus ??
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Re: CHRISTIANS THE TRUTH
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2002, 02:08:08 AM »
Today you don't get taxed. I don't think there was ever a "tax". God wants you to give 10%, but it isn't going to keep you out of heaven if you don't. I know he's real cause I can feel his presence in my life. Hope you find that someday too.
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2002, 02:22:43 AM »
i dont think christanity is a strong religion coz if u walk down a street abd see a fellow christain gettin a kicking most people just walk by
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2002, 02:29:14 AM »
You're probably right, but I wouldn't. I'd help anyone that needed it. Christian, Muslim, Jew, anyone.  And thanks for not dissin me. We cool now?
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Re: CHRISTIANS THE TRUTH
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2002, 02:35:24 AM »
yer man. also theres people i know who say i dont belive in god and wen it comes to christmas they saying oh wers my presents
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2002, 02:38:28 AM »
There are alot of two faced christians. Too many. The thing is man, it's between you and god. No one should base thier faith on what others are doing. If your mind is straight with god, then that is all that matters. According to the bible, all you gotta do to get into heaven is believe in jesus, and strive to be like him. Don't worry about what other christians are doin, it is your own personal walk that matters. We aren't all bad.
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2002, 02:43:37 AM »
yer but theres still churches striving to make profit. wer my auntie livs in lincoln theres a massive cathedral i went 1 sunday and they tryed charging me £5 to pray. i know u gota donate to the charity box which i always do but £5 just to pray thats abit harsh
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2002, 02:48:05 AM »
^^ Yeah, that ain't right. There shouldn't be a price on religion. Your aunt needs to find another church!
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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2002, 02:54:42 AM »
nah its a cayhedral and i just realised its for the building work thats restoring it
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Re: CHRISTIANS THE TRUTH
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2002, 03:18:04 AM »
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Today you don't get taxed. I don't think there was ever a "tax". God wants you to give 10%, but it isn't going to keep you out of heaven if you don't. I know he's real cause I can feel his presence in my life. Hope you find that someday too.



i never saw anything about percentages in the bible..

actually does the bible even mention churches?
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2002, 03:22:39 AM »
I'm not sure which book offhand (if you need me to look it up I will), but 10% is expected. I believe this came from leviticus. And the bible mentions temples, and churches as a place of worship, but it doesn't really mention denominations such as Lutherans, Catholics, etc.
 

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Re: CHRISTIANS THE TRUTH
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2002, 03:33:54 AM »
i think overseer it says u gota donate to charity or summat like that
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2002, 03:38:49 AM »
denominations were created afterwards thats why. the faith shouldnt even be split into these factions.

none of them follow the original 'path' anyways (watch the movie stigmata if you arent into reading) so fuck em.

this gospel isn't recognised by the church. and its been said that (esp. catholics for some reason) have destroyed evidence contrary to their faith in the past.
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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2002, 10:28:08 AM »
Leviticus 27:32

32 And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD.

Numbers 18:26

26 Thus speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When ye take of the children of Israel the tithes which I have given you from them for your inheritance, then ye shall offer up an heave offering of it for the LORD, even a atenth part of the tithe.

Malachi 3:8

8 ¶ Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

Malachi 3:10

10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

I believe "Tithe" itself comes from a jewish/hebrew word meaning "one tenth" or something like that.  The first 'tithe' was paid by Abraham, way back in Genesis, which was of course written supposedly by Moses, but by even non-believers accounts, long before there was even 1 christian on the earth.  So if christians worse case scenario are guilty of  making religion for profit from tithes, they must have borrowed it from the jews.  Peace~
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Re: CHRISTIANS THE TRUTH
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2002, 10:34:40 AM »
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denominations were created afterwards thats why. the faith shouldnt even be split into these factions.

none of them follow the original 'path' anyways (watch the movie stigmata if you arent into reading) so fuck em.

this gospel isn't recognised by the church. and its been said that (esp. catholics for some reason) have destroyed evidence contrary to their faith in the past.
http://www.loveangelquest.com/gospel.html




Right, I'm aware that denominations formed many years after the bible was written. Just making sure you weren't getting that twisted with the word "church". Church is mentioned hundreds of times in the bible. At least in the new testiment. Are you religious seer?
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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2002, 10:36:02 AM »
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denominations were created afterwards thats why. the faith shouldnt even be split into these factions.

none of them follow the original 'path' anyways (watch the movie stigmata if you arent into reading) so fuck em.

this gospel isn't recognised by the church. and its been said that (esp. catholics for some reason) have destroyed evidence contrary to their faith in the past.
http://www.loveangelquest.com/gospel.html




Mormons contend that yes, the churches after christ's death changed and omitted things that were contrary to their faith from the bible.  That's the whole point of the "latter day" restoration, and why the book of mormon was created by god, to use as a comparison alongside the bible.  The mormon church never would have been created, if the churches after Jesus's death didn't corrupt his original church, a restored church wouldn't have been necessary.  

All protestant churches also agree that the catholic church destroyed evidence contrary to the pope's beliefs and desires, that's why they started the reformation.  If the church after Jesus's death wouldn't have strayed from the original plan, the protestant reformed churches wouldn't be necessary, either.

Jews also have a similar concept, that's why they have rabbitical laws, interpretations of the scriptures by rabbis.  

So, among christians, today you have the catholic church, which says that it was the original church, and though it is different now, it's the only church that was around in jesus' time (well, shortly after his death)... they contend that they are the descended church started by Jesus, and then continued by Peter.  (Actually, they are, they're 100% correct, I can't hate on what they did in the past).

Protestant churches all jumped off in the 1500's or so, saying that they couldn't stand the catholic church being corrupted over the years, and so they all attempted to change back what was wrong with the catholic church.  Only problem is, they've all got different ideas of what's missing, what's been changed, etc. so you get like 100 different denominations.

Latter Day Saints say that god appeared to Joseph Smith in the 1800's and told him what was wrong with the church, and gave him (basically, watered down version) the book of mormon, which he had written over the centuries in america, away from the Catholic church's perversion. That's why the book of mormon has ideas and things in it that the bible doesn't have.  

That's where all the denominations come from, and why they all stray from the 'original path' Peace~
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Re: CHRISTIANS THE TRUTH
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2002, 11:15:03 AM »
see thats more like it... there must be a faction that actively tries to 'put things right' and reinterpret things then i'd support them and their cause... (unless they break my rulez about 'guilt tripping' people etc) but then again.. the original faith from the interpretation i read (which i knew the specific name) has no god. and jesus was just a good man with a message.

well.. thing is... if the OG faith is as i perceive it.. then i wouldnt have a problem.

i am a christened in the COE. i never had the choice, i was basically forced into sunday school... it put me off. and as i've said before. the games i've heard some 'factions' play have put me off.
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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2002, 11:19:20 AM »
I hear ya.  All 'factions' play games, i'm not gonna sit here and try to act like Mormons are perfect.  I believe, if you study mormon doctrine, you probably won't find much that doesn't make 100% total, logical sense.  You will, though, find hypocricy with mormons, just as with any other religion.  Mormons have a lot of dirt in their past too... but to me, when I was 'converting', It seemed like a perfect fit.  Just tons, tons, tons of little things.  Like i've been sayin' on another thread, Catholics say that you're born with sin.  That never made sense to me... because if a baby's not baptised, that means he goes to hell, to catholics! That can't be right, god would never do that.  But mormons have an explanation for this; they say there is no original sin, god loves kids, and it's impossible for a kid to sin, until he's 8 or so, because he can't comprehend the sin.  Makes perfect sense to me.  Stuff like that; like I said, it's a perfect fit for me, and my mind set, and the way I see things.  Makes 100% sense... but for others, it may not be what they're lookin' for, regardless of whether it's true or not.  There might be somethin' about it that puts them off, or doesn't make sense to them, or something.  It's all good :)
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Re: CHRISTIANS THE TRUTH
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2002, 11:20:04 AM »
How does God See Each Person Doing Bad.

P.S How Do You Get Pictures ??
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« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2002, 11:22:20 AM »
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How does God See Each Person Doing Bad.

P.S How Do You Get Pictures ??


I don't get what cha mean by the first part, explain a lil' more.  YOu mean, like what does he think of them?  

To get pictures, find one on the net you like, and copy the address.  Go up to "Profile" towards the top ^^, and it'll show you how to do it.  Peace~
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Re: CHRISTIANS THE TRUTH
« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2002, 11:44:11 AM »
this a bad example but say i take a leak and the overseer takes a leak and scy coming down on a female and u on the pc how can he see us all at the same time ??
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« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2002, 11:51:17 AM »
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this a bad example but say i take a leak and the overseer takes a leak and scy coming down on a female and u on the pc how can he see us all at the same time ??


Oh, I gotcha.  God by definition is perfect, and the greatest possible at everything, so he can know what everyone is doing at 1 time... he's all-knowing, all-powerful, etc.  So he knows everything, can do everything, etc. etc. etc.  We can't understand HOW he does it, specifically, because we're tryna understand perfection, and we're not perfect.  
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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2002, 11:51:50 AM »
it depends on your interpretation of god.

see i'm not 'properly christian' .. altho i agree with a lot of the moral code set down... so in my world, theres no god. so it doesnt matter.


 

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Re: CHRISTIANS THE TRUTH
« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2002, 12:25:55 PM »
ok is religon the cause of war ?
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« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2002, 12:32:06 PM »
no.

people are.

however - a lot of people are religious.

either that or 'its a race thing'.

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