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Story's in the Bible and Qu'ran.  Are they true?
« on: May 20, 2002, 06:22:04 AM »
I believe that some of the story's may not be true in the literal sense.  We are too focused on the physical, some of them are lessons taught through spiritual metaphors.
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Re: Story's in the Bible and Qu'ran.  Are they tru
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2002, 06:42:48 AM »
Whether they're true or not is irrelevant,... they're meant to be taken literally, so that the lessons within them will always be a part of your life.  If you start getting into whether they're real or not, you're not focusing on the message, you're negating the message because you feel the story is incorect.  
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Re: Story's in the Bible and Qu'ran.  Are they tru
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2002, 06:55:30 AM »
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Whether they're true or not is irrelevant,... they're meant to be taken literally, so that the lessons within them will always be a part of your life.  If you start getting into whether they're real or not, you're not focusing on the message, you're negating the message because you feel the story is incorect.  


Nicley put homie...

I think it also has to do with the stories being told to people who could not read, Who depended on the few educated people (Apostols) bacc in the day who could actualy "Translate" the words.
Over the centuries the stories had to of changed, to benifit someone else.
It would have been to easy for the word's to be manipulated for gain.....on the purpose of greed & power.
and I always think about all the body's which had to be sacrificed in order for religion to get it's word out...

It's good to belive in a higher power.....Imo
because it gives us something to reach for, and comfort's us in times of need & Mourn.
I saty in the middle & don't really focus on any true entity...
But this is a desicion I'll have to face when I finaly pass.

Peace
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Re: Story's in the Bible and Qu'ran.  Are they tru
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2002, 07:05:09 AM »
True


Since all the stories are related, I think taking them as NOT literal would be confusing.  I've never ran across anything in the bible that I didn't think possible, anyways, so it's no big deal for me.  The biggest one is the story of Noah's ark, but I'm sure if god wanted two of each animal on the ark, he'd find a way to make it possible... I mean, he is god and everything.  

But if you try to just get a story out of Noah's ark, and don't believe it as literal, I don't feel you'll get the true meaning of the story.  I've found I learn more and more and more the longer I read, and study, you could honestly analyze and talk about each story for hours on end, maybe days on end.  
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Re: Story's in the Bible and Qu'ran.  Are they tru
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2002, 04:26:04 PM »
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I believe that some of the story's may not be true in the literal sense.  We are too focused on the physical, some of them are lessons taught through spiritual metaphors.


I've thought this before, and I tend to lean towards what you are implying.
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Re: Story's in the Bible and Qu'ran.  Are they tru
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2002, 06:41:44 AM »
i don't believe in the bible myself, but for those who do, think of the stories like a game of chinese whispers, the stories were told to people who could not write very well, so when the idea (whenever it was) came about to put them all into 1 book the stories will have been changed in many ways, cos like in chinese whispers, the message to the end person is always different from the original message!
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Re: Story's in the Bible and Qu'ran.  Are they tru
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2002, 08:26:42 AM »
i agree with Infinite this time...

hell the new testament wasnt even writen until like 70 yrs after jesus died..  how can u take it word for word...

u try retelling a story 70 yrs later and see how accurate it is..
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Re: Story's in the Bible and Qu'ran.  Are they tru
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2002, 08:37:39 AM »
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u try retelling a story 70 yrs later and see how accurate it is..


exactly. Try telling a story 3 days later n see how accurate it is. Have u ever seen the game where u line up 6 people or so. One person on the end, tells a short paragragh. Then each person passes it on to the next person. By the time it reaches the last in line, the story is always completely different. i agree tho, i neva really believed the stories of the bible as being "real". I always thought it was to be used as lessons for people.
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Re: Story's in the Bible and Qu'ran.  Are they tru
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2002, 11:37:16 AM »
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exactly. Try telling a story 3 days later n see how accurate it is. Have u ever seen the game where u line up 6 people or so. One person on the end, tells a short paragragh. Then each person passes it on to the next person. By the time it reaches the last in line, the story is always completely different. i agree tho, i neva really believed the stories of the bible as being "real". I always thought it was to be used as lessons for people.

u just described a game of chinese whispaz, that's what i talked about.
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Re: Story's in the Bible and Qu'ran.  Are they tru
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2002, 01:27:49 PM »
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u just described a game of chinese whispaz, that's what i talked about.


mah bad, didnt read yur post man.
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Re: Story's in the Bible and Qu'ran.  Are they tru
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2002, 01:42:53 PM »
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Whether they're true or not is irrelevant,... they're meant to be taken literally, so that the lessons within them will always be a part of your life.  If you start getting into whether they're real or not, you're not focusing on the message, you're negating the message because you feel the story is incorect.  



well put
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Re: Story's in the Bible and Qu'ran.  Are they tru
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2002, 07:22:53 PM »
Welll some stories seem to have sum sort of "proof" behind them.  But, if u dont belive in em, consider and understand the main spiritual message most of em convey, and learn from that...it'll make u a better person...

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Re: Story's in the Bible and Qu'ran.  Are they tru
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2002, 08:02:53 PM »
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i don't believe in the bible myself, but for those who do, think of the stories like a game of chinese whispers, the stories were told to people who could not write very well, so when the idea (whenever it was) came about to put them all into 1 book the stories will have been changed in many ways, cos like in chinese whispers, the message to the end person is always different from the original message!


Do you think that you posess more knowledge then the Bible and Qu'ran.  Because if you do, then by all means, do your own thang, figure things out on your own, but if you need help it's there.
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Re: Story's in the Bible and Qu'ran.  Are they tru
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2002, 11:23:33 PM »
tru or not, i believe in the stories in the bible .... for qur'an, i havent read much or anything, so i cannot comment
but either way, they deliver a great message. things to help in life. things to follow, some of the stories are tru to me. some are still questionable, but understanding the message is important to learn to possibly become a better person altogether
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Re: Story's in the Bible and Qu'ran.  Are they tru
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2002, 02:32:51 AM »
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Do you think that you posess more knowledge then the Bible and Qu'ran.  Because if you do, then by all means, do your own thang, figure things out on your own, but if you need help it's there.

No, i can admit that the bible holds more know knowledge than me, but i don't think i need to follow the bible to live a good life, that's all ok?
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Re: Story's in the Bible and Qu'ran.  Are they tru
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2002, 09:10:31 AM »
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tru or not, i believe in the stories in the bible .... for qur'an, i havent read much or anything, so i cannot comment
but either way, they deliver a great message. things to help in life. things to follow, some of the stories are tru to me. some are still questionable, but understanding the message is important to learn to possibly become a better person altogether


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