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Suga Foot

What are your Views on Communists?
« on: February 01, 2004, 10:54:30 PM »
Not Communism; but Communists, how do you view the individuals?  Just wunderin.
 

Don Seer

Re:What are your Views on Communists?
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2004, 03:04:35 AM »
i'm not sure really... i think there are varying degrees...

i think i have kinda socialist views from a 'state' point of view, but not from other angles.

it boils down to this for me..


people should be allowed to live their lives however they wish BUT only as long as they dont impose their will on others :)



i also dont think i know enough about communism..
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Re:What are your Views on Communists?
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2004, 11:57:58 AM »
to me, comunism is not a good idea, i like tio know that if i am smart or clever enough, i can be as rich as i want, equality is good, but on some levels, like laws, not on the money and belongings issue, comunists, i dunno, never met one, but they must be a little different cause they support a sstem based on all out conformity and equality, why anyone would want this bewilders me
 

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Re:What are your Views on Communists?
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2004, 12:05:49 PM »
Misguided and ignorant.
 

Don Seer

Re:What are your Views on Communists?
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2004, 12:27:38 PM »
that the thing... but certain aspects i believe in.. which i think are more socialist then communist... like the right to free education, housing and healthcare.

but you dont have a right to a platinum diamond chain, and a benz on spinners.. unless you earn it ;)

 

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Re:What are your Views on Communists?
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2004, 01:00:22 PM »
Some are good, some are bad. If Communism ran occordingly to the actual theory it would be the greatest thing in the world but unfortunately people are too greedy.

Most hip-hop is now keyboard driven, because the majority of hip-hop workstations have loops and patches that enable somebody with marginal skills to put tracks together,...

Unfortunately, most hip-hop artists gravitated towards the path of least resistance by relying on these pre-set patches. As a result, electric guitar and real musicians became devalued, and a lot of hip-hop now sounds the same.

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Woodrow

Re:What are your Views on Communists?
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2004, 01:15:56 PM »
Greed isn't a bad thing.
 

Don Seer

Re:What are your Views on Communists?
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2004, 01:17:00 PM »
at the expense of your fellow man it isnt.

there are people in the world keeping others down.. that aint right by me.
 

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Re:What are your Views on Communists?
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2004, 01:19:19 PM »
Greed isn't a bad thing.

I guess it depends on your view of things. I'm a charity-giving kinda guy. I always spend money on my friends & family. I don't like having too much money, just enough saved up for College.

Most hip-hop is now keyboard driven, because the majority of hip-hop workstations have loops and patches that enable somebody with marginal skills to put tracks together,...

Unfortunately, most hip-hop artists gravitated towards the path of least resistance by relying on these pre-set patches. As a result, electric guitar and real musicians became devalued, and a lot of hip-hop now sounds the same.

Paris
 

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Re:What are your Views on Communists?
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2004, 02:22:05 PM »
Only Communists I know are the ones at school dressed like bums and handing out copies of The Workers Vanguard. Like Engle said, ignorant and misguided.
"One day Alice came to a fork in the road and saw a Cheshire cat in a tree. "Which road do I take?" she asked. "Where do you want to go?" was his response. "I don't know," Alice answered. "Then," said the cat, "it doesn't matter."

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Re:What are your Views on Communists?
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2004, 02:47:18 PM »
They're gods people just like everybody else, I dont' feel one way or the other about them.  
 

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Re:What are your Views on Communists?
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2004, 10:11:22 PM »
Some are good, some are bad. If Communism ran occordingly to the actual theory it would be the greatest thing in the world but unfortunately people are too greedy.


True Very true it was totalitarian rulers such as Hitler stalin that took Communism and molded it to their own views and used it too impose their rule on their people.  Marx saw it as a way to end social class structers that divided people and government.  if we could find someone who could enforce communism without a totalitarian eye but with the way it was meant to be we would lose social institution such as gangs and the rich and no one person would be better than any other.  The plus side to that would be no more poverty, but the down side everyone sees is theres no room for advancement.  PEople do not understand howmuch Communism actually has influenced our economy and most government programs we lived in a mixed society now.



Communism is also known as the poormans gov't.

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Woodrow

Re:What are your Views on Communists?
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2004, 09:35:12 AM »
Communism won't work because it places the "Group" needs above the individuals needs. That's inherently wrong and a VERY misguided view about how people work.

"It is said when Pol Pot was a college student in Paris, he swore to bring "pure" communism to Cambodia, and not the bloody, dictatorial, "perverted"-type communism that was put into place in the Soviet Union and elsewhere. Unfortunately, by the time he took over in Cambodia, he found that it was "necessary" to become the most murderous (per capita) dictator in history as people still seemed to want to take care of their families before they took care of his vision for them, and a bloodbath and reign of terror was the only way to squeeze out even a show of cooperation. This step-by-step progression from altruist idealism to butchery and unimaginable horror has been repeated time and time again in country after country."


"The Nazis are well remembered for murdering 10 million people in the implementation of their slogan, 'The public good before the private good,' and the Communist Chinese for murdering 65 million people in the implementation of theirs, 'Serve the people.'  Anyone who defends either of these, or any variation of them, on the grounds of their 'good intentions' is an immoral (NOT 'amoral') enabler of the ACTUAL (not just the proverbial) road to hell." -- Rick Gaber


Be sure to check out this book:
The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0674076087/qid=1075829268//ref=pd_ka_1/103-5045172-4719862?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

 

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Re:What are your Views on Communists?
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2004, 02:43:29 PM »
Communism won't work because it places the "Group" needs above the individuals needs. That's inherently wrong and a VERY misguided view about how people work.

Very true. If people could work that way society would be perfect, but it will never happen.

Most hip-hop is now keyboard driven, because the majority of hip-hop workstations have loops and patches that enable somebody with marginal skills to put tracks together,...

Unfortunately, most hip-hop artists gravitated towards the path of least resistance by relying on these pre-set patches. As a result, electric guitar and real musicians became devalued, and a lot of hip-hop now sounds the same.

Paris
 

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Re:What are your Views on Communists?
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2004, 03:24:27 PM »
Some are good, some are bad. If Communism ran occordingly to the actual theory it would be the greatest thing in the world but unfortunately people are too greedy.

Yeah.  And people who consider capatilism a success aren't looking at it from other people's perspective.  If you are poor, or your business has just been closed down because Wal-Mart moved in next to you... or if your country has just been invaded by another country who wants to privatize your natural resources; then capatalism isn't so great.  I think everyone should have a food and shelter.  Capatalism can't gaurantee that.  Capatalism forces expensive items to be nessecities that weren't ever nessecities before; because the technology is controlling us... Rather than us controlling the technology.