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I got no problem with music when it's informative and thoughtful.  But most of this entertainment is exploitative.  I'm not saying that artists like Beyonce, Ludacris and whoever else aren't talented and don't make good music; they do.  But it is exploitative.  What effect does it have on the listener?

You are running around thinking that this music and culture has no affect on you.  But it is a clear message in some of this songs.  Let's take popular radio music.  That Fabulous song featuring Tamia.  The message is clear.  This girls love is real because she isn't impressed by fake ballers and loves real ballers with real diamonds and alot of zero's in their bank account.  And that's real love?  That's authentic?

Let's take Alicia Keys.  Ya'll think she is real?  What's so real about her music.  Falling in and out of love.  Telling an x-boyfriend he ain't shit anymore.  What's so real about that?  What's sustaining about that?  What is fullfilling about that?

Ya'll think Kelis is real?  Why?  Cause she has a little style and she's dating Nas so she's real?  What's real about Kelis.  She is selling sex.  They are manipulating every man's natural inclination towards sex.  They are taking this sincere, honest desire for sex and manipulating you and exploiting you for all your worth.

The only lawful relations between a man and a woman are through marriage.  The media doesn't want to advocate that becaues it isn't profitable.  It is not profitable.  Spending time with your wife and family is not profitable.  Going out to bars and clubs and dancing, buying, promoting their music and heeding to the call of the Shatan is.

I'm out.  Peace.
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Re:Some of you people need to be concious of what your listening to...
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2004, 09:20:25 AM »
two issues here

#1... yup totally agree.. the money = better thing sucks.. but hey you live in a capitalist country..



and #2...

The only lawful relations between a man and a woman are through marriage.
last i knew you were free to fuck whoever you want..

can you get arrested for it? no. therefore its lawful.


like i keep telling you *DO NOT IMPRESS YOUR OWN BELIEFS OR RELIGION ON OTHERS* bigot ;)

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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2004, 09:25:33 AM »
Dont agree with everything you said, but for the most part I do....


Good read and good post  ;)
 

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Re:Some of you people need to be concious of what your listening to...
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2004, 12:52:10 PM »
basicaly your saying Sex sells,ok... were have you been for the last 20 if not more years
 

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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2004, 02:40:28 PM »
Let's take Alicia Keys.  Ya'll think she is real?  What's so real about her music.  Falling in and out of love.  Telling an x-boyfriend he ain't shit anymore.  What's so real about that?  What's sustaining about that?  What is fullfilling about that?

Unlike your twisted ass world view, the vast majority of people in the world fall in love. It's a nearly universal thing. Sorry you're missing out on it.
 

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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2004, 03:23:51 PM »
I got no problem with music when it's informative and thoughtful.  But most of this entertainment is exploitative.  I'm not saying that artists like Beyonce, Ludacris and whoever else aren't talented and don't make good music; they do.  But it is exploitative.  What effect does it have on the listener?

You are running around thinking that this music and culture has no affect on you.  But it is a clear message in some of this songs.  Let's take popular radio music.  That Fabulous song featuring Tamia.  The message is clear.  This girls love is real because she isn't impressed by fake ballers and loves real ballers with real diamonds and alot of zero's in their bank account.  And that's real love?  That's authentic?

Let's take Alicia Keys.  Ya'll think she is real?  What's so real about her music.  Falling in and out of love.  Telling an x-boyfriend he ain't shit anymore.  What's so real about that?  What's sustaining about that?  What is fullfilling about that?

Ya'll think Kelis is real?  Why?  Cause she has a little style and she's dating Nas so she's real?  What's real about Kelis.  She is selling sex.  They are manipulating every man's natural inclination towards sex.  They are taking this sincere, honest desire for sex and manipulating you and exploiting you for all your worth.

The only lawful relations between a man and a woman are through marriage.  The media doesn't want to advocate that becaues it isn't profitable.  It is not profitable.  Spending time with your wife and family is not profitable.  Going out to bars and clubs and dancing, buying, promoting their music and heeding to the call of the Shatan is.

I'm out.  Peace.

...this all coming from the guy who claims dre is the best musician of all time and dre shits all over beethoven with no evidence to his claims......

sex sells homie...if you don't like it, don't listen to it....the fact is, american culture is tainted....everything is tainted. if you can't accept it, don't listen to it.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2004, 03:42:23 PM »
BUT WHAT I REALLY WANNA C IS MOR TITTYS!!!!  HAHAHA HAHAHA
 

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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2004, 03:49:05 PM »
LMAO
Who's this guy?

I'm so glad I'm not you.
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2004, 04:22:52 PM »
Why do we need you to tell us that.  Of course sex sells, it works both ways.
 

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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2004, 06:32:57 PM »
BUT WHAT I REALLY WANNA C IS MOR TITTYS!!!!  HAHAHA HAHAHA


I heard that..MORE TITTIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and milkshakes.

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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2004, 07:54:22 PM »
Some great points made.

Most hip-hop is now keyboard driven, because the majority of hip-hop workstations have loops and patches that enable somebody with marginal skills to put tracks together,...

Unfortunately, most hip-hop artists gravitated towards the path of least resistance by relying on these pre-set patches. As a result, electric guitar and real musicians became devalued, and a lot of hip-hop now sounds the same.

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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2004, 08:13:29 PM »
Agreed, some good points made.  However, not everyone is going to agree with your views, there is room in this world for more than one point of view.  I like to have a good time and here a song in the club that is bumpin once in awhile, and sometimes i like to see girl exploit herself by looking mad sexy!  

If you are trying to convert people or make people change, you are going about it the wrong way homie.  NOthing against you, but i for one have enough intelligence and self-esteem to not emulate hiphop culture just because i like a certain song or certain artists.  

Ibrahim Islam, youve changed in your time on the board and for you this is a positive change, but for others they just want to be carefree and enjoy life without taking it to seriously.  peace man
 

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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2004, 09:43:18 PM »
infinite ANYTHING you say about music is automatically VOID and without merit or credibility



"dre is better than Mozart"

"andre 3000 just threw together the love below , it's a joke"



go wrap your head up with a bath towl and get educated


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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2004, 10:04:07 PM »


"andre 3000 just threw together the love below , it's a joke"





WTF


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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2004, 10:10:36 PM »
Kumbya My Lord, Kumbya

 

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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2004, 01:42:57 AM »
this doesnt belong here MOVE IT
 

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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2004, 07:20:51 AM »
infinite ANYTHING you say about music is automatically VOID and without merit or credibility



"dre is better than Mozart"

"andre 3000 just threw together the love below , it's a joke"



go wrap your head up with a bath towl and get educated

word.....although i do also kinda believe andre threw together the love below....
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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2004, 07:47:40 AM »
Agreed, some good points made.  However, not everyone is going to agree with your views, there is room in this world for more than one point of view.  I like to have a good time and here a song in the club that is bumpin once in awhile, and sometimes i like to see girl exploit herself by looking mad sexy!  

If you are trying to convert people or make people change, you are going about it the wrong way homie.  NOthing against you, but i for one have enough intelligence and self-esteem to not emulate hiphop culture just because i like a certain song or certain artists.  

Ibrahim Islam, youve changed in your time on the board and for you this is a positive change, but for others they just want to be carefree and enjoy life without taking it to seriously.  peace man

You said that some people just want to enjoy life and not take it seriously.  That's a good point.  And thank you for displaying some dignity and respect in your response (as opposed to other responses).  However, I think that everything we do in this life has it's repercussions, either before or after we die, it has it's repercussions.

And this is a serious matter.  Our innocence is being stolen.  We have a word "fitrah" in Islam, meaning natural.  We are strongly opposed to anything that is unnatural.  The way that our natural inclination for sex is being manipulated and exploited, causes decay within the human spirit.  It makes us to desire things that are unlawful, unhealthy and unnatural.  It has seriously damaged people's perception of good.  When a Muslim woman wants to wear a scarf covering her hair and dress modestly she is considered extreme.  In France they even banned women from doing that in public schools.  Why is it a problem when women want to wear more clothes?  It is because society has been conditioned to desire things that are unnatural for them.  
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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2004, 08:16:45 AM »
*smacks Ibrahim Islam's kufi straight off his head*

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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2004, 01:06:14 PM »
i love the "dre is better than mozart" remark, shows how stupid some people are
 

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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2004, 01:10:56 PM »
man when the fuck do you ever stop preachin? shut the fuck up for once and let people decide what they want to listen to.
 

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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2004, 03:24:06 PM »
man when the fuck do you ever stop preachin? shut the fuck up for once and let people decide what they want to listen to.

cheers to that!
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