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Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
« on: April 30, 2002, 06:53:58 PM »
How many of u c black jews???

im not talking about Eithiopians or stuff like that, im talkin about blacks *African Americans*

wat r ur thoughts......

Also, if ur black r u alarmed by blacks becoming Jewish and vice-versa



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Re: Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2002, 07:17:38 PM »
^^ Hmm, I never really thought about it,.. every time I saw one, I was just like "Well, goes to show you can't judge somebody by what they look like"... I mean, even if they're black, they might be jewish, LOL.  That's some crazy stuff.  Whatever they want to be though, it's all good.
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Re: Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2002, 07:37:50 PM »
Man, you might as well ask if there is any black KKK's. LOL.  Sheeit, Jews are a race, not a riligion.  It is a riglion, but first and formost it is a race of people.  Their God's people.  No body can just wake up one morning and say "Hey, I want to be jewish". LOL.  No, there are no black jews.  Unless a jew married a black and had a kid.  Maybe.  But I doubt that there are any black jews.  Dude, who wants to be jewish.  No offense to my jewish brothas out there.  But jews are like tha MOST persicuted people on this earth.  Thay even say it them selves. It didn't stop wit Hitlar.  They always geting looked down on still.  There is a big group of jews called "Jews for Jesus".  They started thay own organization and every thing.  They Believe in Jesus as tha Son of God.  But thay still jews.  Some of em' come to our church every year and preach.  Good people they are.  So you ya see?  Jews are a race of peeps.   I seriously doubt that there are any black jews.  Good question though.



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Re: Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2002, 07:43:08 PM »
They aren't a race man. That is one of the biggest misconceptions about the Jewish faith. Anyone can be Jewish if they choose to believe the way Jews do.
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Re: Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2002, 07:51:00 PM »
Maybe. They can belive like tha jews do.   But can't be True jews.  Jews are God's People.  You just can't pretend to be some thing like that.  Nah, maybe you right, But I still think thay are a race of peeps.




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Re: Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2002, 08:00:55 PM »
oh, and another thing.  Why don't tha "jews for Jesus" just str8 out call them selves "christian"? cause thay can't forget who thay really are.  They Jews.  A race of God's people. They can't "un-jew" them selves.  It's not just a simple riligion that thay can jrop at any time.  Ya know?


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Re: Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2002, 08:10:26 PM »
Complicated stuff.  God promised Abraham all of God's people in heaven would be from Abraham's descent, as his posterity.  So, when you join the jewish faith (Mormons believe this too, but I don't know about other Christians), you are adopted into Abraham's family.  Our chutch gives out patriarchial blessings that state which Tribe you are of; so as a member, I'm jewish, LOL.  Crazy, right?

But think about that!  It says, right in the old testament, that everybody that enters heaven will be Abraham's descendant.  So, if you're not Abraham's descendant, naturally, our chutch believes you are spiritually 'adopted' into his family, to fulfill that promise to Abraham.  That's what he was promised, for agreeing to sacrifice his son to god.  

So, what i'm sayin is, according to the old testament, I'm jewish, by descent, but not Jewish by religion.
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Re: Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2002, 08:12:54 PM »
Oh, and btw, if it weren't possible for this to happen, you'd have things like Black people not being able to enter heaven, chinese, hawaiians, basically anybody that wasn't Jew wouldn't be able to be saved, because god promised Abraham everyone in Heaven would be from his lineage? Hardly; that's why there must be a way to be adopted into Abraham's family.  So, if you consider you're going to heaven, you have to think that you are in Abraham's family.  If you're black, there's no way you were NATURALLY in his family, so you must be 'adopted' in.  Like I said, complicated.
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Re: Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2002, 08:14:45 PM »
I'm just sayin that in my 2 sociology classes, and from what I've gathered in my church that there is not a set "race" of jews. Alot of Jewish people have similar features, but it is more of a mediteranean look since that is where the fiath originated. However, as Truama said, if you adopt the jewish faith, then god adopts you as one of Ambrahams family. It isn't a race in a sense of black, white, ect...

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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2002, 08:26:07 PM »
I don't know. LOL.  Like you said Complicated stuff. and what you siad about the tribes, I don't know.  I not very sure on what we believe in. LOL.  But why become jewish???  If you not Born jewish, your not jewish.  I'm mexican, I don't go round trying to be black(although many do, LOL)  . Dude yall got me comfused. Damn.  all I know, is that Jesus came as a Jew.  His race was Jewish.  there for Jews are first and for most a RACE of peeps.



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Re: Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2002, 08:28:40 PM »
Maybe yall right.  LOL.  but yeah, I guess.
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Re: Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2002, 07:26:21 AM »
Just read the first 5 books of the old testament, it clearly says that all of the people in heaven will be Abraham's descendants.  He was jewish, so if you expect to get into heaven, one way or another, you're gonna be 'jewish' too.  It's not a race or nothin', it's just like a label.  Jewish= Descendant of Abraham.  There's also a jewish FAITH, which isn't really the same thing, though they would of course say it is; but it's possible for people (in my opinion, ha) that aren't jewish to get into heaven; they're simply adopted into the family.  
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Re: Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2002, 07:43:30 AM »
woha thats weird complicated stuff, @ such times i thank God even more for being a Sikh LOL!

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Re: Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2002, 07:53:59 AM »
LOL I hear ya.  
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Re: Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2002, 09:37:50 AM »
well....tha dude who said jews r a race is right...it ain"t no misconseption...jews r a race....period....yea....anyone can become jewish(religion-wise, even tho it"z tha hardest religion to get into..officially...tha giur iz a very complicated procedure)...
but being Jewish is first and for all a race....yea...they belong to the semite race....but r considered a race of it"z own officially.....the diaspra was the thing to make Jews an even more seperate rase from the other semites.
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Re: Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2002, 11:04:44 AM »
see ... black , white, yellow, red... any color can be who they wanna be... that's cool with me.

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Re: Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2002, 07:39:15 PM »
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well....tha dude who said jews r a race is right...it ain"t no misconseption...jews r a race....period....yea....anyone can become jewish(religion-wise, even tho it"z tha hardest religion to get into..officially...tha giur iz a very complicated procedure)...
but being Jewish is first and for all a race....yea...they belong to the semite race....but r considered a race of it"z own officially.....the diaspra was the thing to make Jews an even more seperate rase from the other semites


Show me where the Jewish community considers itself "officially" a race? I want to see that in writing. You said yourself they are the semite race.
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Re: Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2002, 08:42:01 PM »
We're talkin' bout two different things here, LOL.  There is a Jewish People, a Jewish race... there the ones Hitler tried to kill off.  But as far as the religion, which is what this whole topic is about, anybody, of any nationality can be jewish by religion.  Those who are 'saved' and make it to heaven, according to the old testament, will be symbolically 'adopted' into the jewish RACE (Abraham's descendants) since it promises him everyone in heaven will be of his descent.  So, anybody can be Jewish by religion. That's why it's perfectly alright for Blacks to be jewish.  


 

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Re: Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
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well...yea..theoreticlly anyone  can become jewish religion-wise...altho it"z tha hardest religion to be officially excepted in...why?...bcauze JEWs r a  race..and anyone who doesn"t have Jewish blood and wants to become jewish will undergo a process called the GIUR after passin this..he theorticlly  becomes a JEW....you wonder why i keep sayin theoreticly...-it'z becauze these converted Jews r gonna be called GIORs(from tha word GIUR) and not Jews....so there will be a certain defining line....

as for tha BLACK Jews...tha most spread thing is a mixture of a BLACK father and a Jewish mother(jews consider a person who"z mother is jewish to be jewish)...but we"re not talking only bout tha excepted in JEWdaism...so people like LENNY Kraviz can be considered Jews too(altho hiz father was tha jewish one out hiz perents).
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Re: Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2002, 08:40:13 AM »
^^^^^^^^^ Yeah, I think we're basically sayin' the same thing.  Blacks can be jews, but they're just symbolically jewish by race ^^^^^^^^^
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Re: Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2002, 04:58:04 PM »
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oh, and another thing.  Why don't tha "jews for Jesus" just str8 out call them selves "christian"? cause thay can't forget who thay really are.  They Jews.  A race of God's people. They can't "un-jew" them selves.  It's not just a simple riligion that thay can jrop at any time.  Ya know?


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I believe that there was a Jesus, and Jesus lived, but i dont believe he is my leader or saviour (however u spell it)...if ur a Jew and believe that, ur not jewish, hate 2 say it.....

Also, like Geezy said, you have to endure a hard process in order to become Jewish, u have to study the kabbalah, etc.
So it is possible for there to be black Jews

Judaism has many rules and is hard 2 follow...making it the hardest religion to follow



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« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2002, 05:11:05 PM »
^^^ Hmmm.  I dunno If I'd say it's the hardest religion to follow.  I guess by necessity it is, but there's a lot of devout hindus that do some crazy things for god; I guess that's not really a requirement though.  But they do things like fast for 3 months, then walk 300 miles through the jungle to a temple barefoot, crap like that.  
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Re: Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2002, 05:58:03 PM »
^^maybe once a year, but we have daily things 2 do....


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Re: Your Toughts on BLACK JEWS
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2002, 06:02:09 PM »
yeah i would say judaism is the hardest to follow, their pretty strict, the real jews
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« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2002, 06:54:19 PM »
Cool, Cool.  I never understood why peeps think Mormons are strict, i've been studying other religions, and though we may be strict for christians, compared to almost any other religion, we're not strict at all, and none of our customs/temple services are weird at all.  It kinda makes me feel good to know other peep's got it even worse than me, ha.
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