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Prince Techniec hollers back...My reply to the BS!
« on: April 23, 2002, 08:25:57 AM »
first of all, my internetat home is disconnected so im posting at school from now on

now,
i will APOLOGIZE for one thing only, there has been some misunderstanding i wanna clear up

"kick out the jewish presence"

if u read my whole post clearly, i was attackin the Jewish lobby in Washington that control US foreign policy, thats what the above statement was directed at , NOT the jewish people, i love judaism, i respect Jewish people
I respect I TO DA GEEZY, because he taught me alot about the Israeli perspective, yall dyin too, i cry for all of humanity
Islam is a branch of Judaism, our Quran calls Jews "People of the Book" so the above statement WASNT a nazi call for mass expulsion of the Jewish community from the US, it was a call for the lobby groups to have their monopoly decreased

as for the people jumpin on my nuts

I to da geezy- you believe in your cause, and you are right in many aspects, but please understand Im not a fanatic "drive the jews into the sea" muslim, i hate Yasser Arafat, i hold him  just as responsible for Palestinian deaths as I do Sharon, I think the Palestinian Authority is a corrupt burecratic organization, i denounce suicide bombing to the fullest, im about as left wing as I can, i understand the Israeli peoples anger, frustration and disappointment, can u understand the Palestinians??  I think there are many brave and courgarous Israelis, such as the Peace Now movement, Mr. Amos the former Israeli ambassador, (I believe) I denounce Muslim fanatics, can u homie, go on record and denounce Jewish extremists, the Rehavem Zehi type, the whole "Palestinians are lice that need to be exterminated" type, can u do that??

Trauma- a hypocrite to the fullest, lol @ "rumble", im not a lil rich kid from the burbs, you think if i saw u cuz, i wouldnt fuck u up, dont make lil fuckin threats on line,

fact is, the difference between me and u is you disguise your beliefs, i dont, i openly condemn Israeli govt and its friends in Congress, you my friend are a Bigot, you are a closet anti Muslim, come out and say it, YOU TAKE A STAND, do i hate u?
no, but i do think youre a punk, and thats not cuz youre American, i got love for Americans, i think America is beautiful, but there are ignorant Americans,

you ever been to the Islamic world? do u know how we feel?
no, u sit in your fuckin house makin assumptions about Islam,
the fact is lots of Christain Evangelists are horribly anti-Muslim

"you fear what you dont understand, hate what u cant conquer"

You fuckin sit there with your ignorant friends and criticize
Islam, traditionally and historically have NEVER been anti-semetic, the recent anti-semetism is pure POLITICAL,

when Sultan Muhammad took over Constantinople, he built synagogues destroyed in the war with the Byzantines, when the Crusaders stopped in Constantinople, (not even an invading army!) on their way to Jerusalem, they massacred all the Jews and Orthodox christains, your religion has been just as unjust as anybody else,

The crusades, the inquisition, the slave trade etc all justified in the name of the Cross, face it you are anti muslim,
The Christain West has always been anti muslim, Americans still have a very distorted image of us, lack of education will do that to you,

Christains have commited horrible crimes but I for one REFUSE to denounce an entire religion based on the crimes of some,

all the backlash against the West in the Islamic world is a result of political incidents, which have convinced Muslims, they are being targeted,

Israel/Palestine
Chechnya
Kashmir

Muslims see the persucetion and are convinced they are being attacked, so now you have vigilantism on the rise, the feelings of the Muslim world are a REACTION to persecution

again, im only here to apologize to the homies, Jay ay bee, Owen, etc all christians, all my friends

i dont care what u bigots think about me,
fuck anybody callin me racist, nazi etc
FUCK YALL

i never denounced any religion, and i would never do that

PS:

Peace in the middle east, a just peace for Israelis and Palestinians, hopefully i will see that in my lifetime

Salaam u alaikum
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Re: Prince Techniec hollers back...My reply to the
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2002, 09:18:41 AM »
Yo Tech, great to have you back brother....... Us Muslims, we're out in the open about our likes, dislikes, our beefs, injustices, Christians say "Jesus loved everyone, Jesus would never hurt anyone, love, love, love" and then their actions say the opposite and they make themselves into hypocrites..... I understand why this happens, this happens because it is unrealistic to think that you can be "love, love, love" in today's climate.... and they like to blame everything on Muslims, but they need to take a good hard look at themselves, and maybe read some of the Old Testament, so they can understand that Constantine and other corrupters of the bible used the New Testament of the bible to opress nations of people.  When Muslims resist, we aren't afraid to speak about it, our only rancour is against oppression, but Trauma sits back, "Love, Love, Love" meanwhile, he's supportin a government that kills thousands in Iraq through sanctions, has been bombing Sudan for years, and goes against the United Nations and supports Isreal's illegal occupation, then when I try to stand up and speak out against this, he calls me negetive and hateful.  HYPOCRITE.
 

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Re: Prince Techniec hollers back...My reply to the
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2002, 09:33:39 AM »
WORD, dat was tight....

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Re: Prince Techniec hollers back...My reply to the
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2002, 09:39:33 AM »
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Yo Tech, great to have you back brother....... Us Muslims, we're out in the open about our likes, dislikes, our beefs, injustices, Christians say "Jesus loved everyone, Jesus would never hurt anyone, love, love, love" and then their actions say the opposite and they make themselves into hypocrites.....


Man, your generalising christians there, 5 of my boys are muslims, they do and say a grip of dumb shit, but i dont generalise muslims by my boys' actions actions, id appreciate it if you showed the same respect towards christians...
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Re: Prince Techniec hollers back...My reply to the
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2002, 09:47:08 AM »
a yo Tech...much respect for tha understandin and for those words...of course i recognize tha palestinian suffer..i"m alwayz talking about it...i think that their worst enemy iz their own headz and authority(weather they recongnize it right now or not...tho most of them do recognize)...as for extremism...i condemn extremism from any direction...but i wouldn"t pick Zevi as tha biggest extrimo"...he waz alwayz talking about transfer in peace and shit...when i condemn Israeli extremism it"z much mo active and working orgz like KAH that r considered OUTLAW in Israel...they r not supported in anyway by tha govt. ...they  r condemned by all tha political levelz. that"z the kind of attitude i wish for tha authority headz.
but of course tha authority headz don"t reflect tha majority of peacefull palestinianz that live in GAZA nd tha WEST BANK...they should have a country\state they just need to get a better start posision.


much respect TECH.

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Re: Prince Techniec hollers back...My reply to the
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2002, 09:53:41 AM »
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Man, your generalising christians there, 5 of my boys are muslims, they do and say a grip of dumb shit, but i dont generalise muslims by my boys' actions actions, id appreciate it if you showed the same respect towards christians...


fair enough, my mistake, I meant to say "some Christians" although I honestly don't know any Christians that follow the Old Testament more closely then the New Testament.
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2002, 10:02:16 AM »
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fair enough, my mistake, I meant to say "some Christians" although I honestly don't know any Christians that follow the Old Testament more closely then the New Testament.


Ive never read neither the old or new testament and have no desire to, so i cant comment on neither. I dont know any muslims who aint racist, but the 18 or so muslims i know personally, dont represent every muslim worldwide...

Anyway, Peace homie
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Re: Prince Techniec hollers back...My reply to the
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2002, 10:06:22 AM »
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Ive never read neither the old or new testament and have no desire to, so i cant comment on neither. I dont know any muslims who aint racist, but the 18 or so muslims i know personally, dont represent every muslim worldwide...

Anyway, Peace homie


Technically.... it was okay what I said, I said, "Christians say" I didn't say, "All Christians say".  It's all good though, you know what I meant.
 

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Re: Prince Techniec hollers back...My reply to the
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2002, 10:08:30 AM »
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Yo Tech, great to have you back brother....... Us Muslims, we're out in the open about our likes, dislikes, our beefs, injustices, Christians say "Jesus loved everyone, Jesus would never hurt anyone, love, love, love" and then their actions say the opposite and they make themselves into hypocrites..... I understand why this happens, this happens because it is unrealistic to think that you can be "love, love, love" in today's climate.... and they like to blame everything on Muslims, but they need to take a good hard look at themselves, and maybe read some of the Old Testament, so they can understand that Constantine and other corrupters of the bible used the New Testament of the bible to opress nations of people.  When Muslims resist, we aren't afraid to speak about it, our only rancour is against oppression, but Trauma sits back, "Love, Love, Love" meanwhile, he's supportin a government that kills thousands in Iraq through sanctions, has been bombing Sudan for years, and goes against the United Nations and supports Isreal's illegal occupation, then when I try to stand up and speak out against this, he calls me negetive and hateful.  HYPOCRITE.


Our teaches also state we are all sinners. We will do things that are not of Christ, so we must make up with God. Plus God stated that sometimes it is OK to stand up for yourself, as war was a part of the Bible, more importantly the book of Macabee, which Protestants took out. Anyway, We are sinners, no question about it, but we are humans, and know not what we do.
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Re: Prince Techniec hollers back...My reply to the
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2002, 02:59:56 PM »
infinate think about what you said against Christians......ok now think what you would do if Sikotik came in here and said that about muslums...marinate on that


i'm not dissing you or anything but i see too many times where you put a double standard for muslums, kinda like a holior than thou typa thing, but whatever, from what you've revealed about your past i guess u were done wrong by some so called 'christians' so i guess it's just carried over bitterness, and if your going to call christians hypocrits you better take a GOOD look at ancient spain and the hypocracy that went on over there and the hypocracy of some muslums in the middle east


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Re: Prince Techniec hollers back...My reply to the
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2002, 04:51:00 PM »
^^if anything, Muslims are held to a double standard

People are quik to denounce Muslims, when we have the same mentality, vision and beliefs as the Old Testament
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2002, 05:10:44 PM »
you can say that about any group really that doesn't doesn't get their way (i'm not dissing islam)


my whole point is though...too many times, on this board, i've seen ifinate and a couple of other muslums create a double standard for themselves and their religion....if your going to throw hypocracy around, practice what you preach
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Re: Prince Techniec hollers back...My reply to the
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2002, 05:25:00 PM »
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you can say that about any group really that doesn't doesn't get their way (i'm not dissing islam)


my whole point is though...too many times, on this board, i've seen ifinate and a couple of other muslums create a double standard for themselves and their religion....if your going to throw hypocracy around, practice what you preach


I do practice what I preach.  Islam has the 5 pillars.  We are required to do 10% of the religion.  I practice what I preach.  What are you saying?

Second of all.  Ya'll Christians up in here are all my homies.  I think ya'll are all good peoples.  For the sake of the forum, if I say something against Christianity, then speak up on behalf of your religion and argue my point, like Jake, just go ahead and explain Ancient Spain, etc., and debate your point.  That's what this forum is for.  I have some negetive views about Christianity.  Alot of Christians even don't like some things about their religion.  I will continue to debate my points, and I encourage you to respond back.
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Re: Prince Techniec hollers back...My reply to the
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2002, 09:01:48 PM »
Infinite, what is it you question. I would like to clearify. I figure I'm a level headed person, and you are willing to listen, so we straight.

As for my homie Tech, man get some better internet in yourlife...LOL. Hurry back if you read this, the Elite is waiting for it's hottest member.
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2002, 10:53:13 PM »
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fair enough, my mistake, I meant to say "some Christians" although I honestly don't know any Christians that follow the Old Testament more closely then the New Testament.


Man, following the new testament is the whole point of christianity. There are some lessons to be learned from the old testament, but once Jesus enters the picture, we see a whole new light of what should, and shouldn't be done. Our religion is very much focused on the new, cause with the addition of jesus, and his forgiveness, alot of the old testament becomes obsolete. So no, you probably will never meet a christian that follows the old t more than the new t. Other wise our faith would be considered the (moses)ians, and not the (christ)ians.
 

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« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2002, 09:34:42 AM »
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Infinite, what is it you question. I would like to clearify. I figure I'm a level headed person, and you are willing to listen, so we straight.

As for my homie Tech, man get some better internet in yourlife...LOL. Hurry back if you read this, the Elite is waiting for it's hottest member.


The basics of my argument is this.... Christians like to focus all their attention on Jesus, and say that Jesus was "Love, love, love" all the time, "love my enemies" if they hit you on one cheek, you turn the other, etc....... and what I was eluding to is this........ It's unrealistic to live like that in today's climate, so often times Christians end up making themselves into hypocrites.
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« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2002, 02:11:09 PM »
the same can be said about muslums too ya know
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« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2002, 04:04:42 PM »
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The basics of my argument is this.... Christians like to focus all their attention on Jesus, and say that Jesus was "Love, love, love" all the time, "love my enemies" if they hit you on one cheek, you turn the other, etc....... and what I was eluding to is this........ It's unrealistic to live like that in today's climate, so often times Christians end up making themselves into hypocrites.


In the end you may say Christians are hypocrites, I say Europeans, and people of European desent are hypocrites. But that's neither here nor there, what that is, is me expressing myself and anger for shit that happens because of human nature. Muslims are supposibly a religion of peace right, then why go into Europe and conqueor like most of the lower counties like Spain, Italy, and Greece when them nations were in their homes, and the Ottoman Empire decided to take over that land, enforce their religion apon people that did not want to convert, and after 1000 years, never did convert. You see, I could say, because of my past experence, that I feel Europeans were hypocrites, but as it turns out, everyone is. We are humans, we can NEVER follow the examples that are given to us fully, because we can not fathom how too. Hypocracy comes from both ends, but in the end, we all end up in the same place, waiting for the Lord to come so that judgement can be past before us. So I ask you, well we are suppose to turn the other cheek, and love everyone, but is it your job to push us to them limits. I know the U.S. is a fucked up nation, you live it too, so don't sound like an outsider, we are consurmer pigs. The world is NOT OVERPOPULATING, as we have more than enough food to feed everyone, we just consume it ALL. So I know the U.S. is fucked up, but this is also not a straight Christian nation, as we hold all religions, and we hold no ties to ANY church. The U.S. screwed itself, I wouldn't denie that, but it's the other side turning it into a religious war. So in this, who is the hypocrites, we are, I know, but we are not alone in hypocracy.
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