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HBKid_Jr

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What do you think tha chances are religion is made
« on: April 10, 2002, 06:39:23 PM »
What do you think tha chances are religion is made is made up.  People through out history have said that religion was just made up in order to keep people in line,  that wit all tha sins an going to hell people would be affraid to steal an kill.  This is off topic but i gotta give overseer props for makin this board,  its dope
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Re: What do you think tha chances are religion is
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2002, 06:45:12 PM »
Depends on what you mean.  I think some religions may have been made up, but the ones that have survived must have some truth, right? You can't fool people forever.

I honestly believe, that Adam had a religion.  he talked to God, he knew god, ya know?  So he knew the truth.  The earth was destroyed, and only Noah survived (with his fam) so at that time, too, their was only 1 religion.  They knew the truth.  I think all the religions on the earth (that are credible) have all shooted off from that one religion, all have partial truths.  

You can't just say that religion isn't true, because too many people have been killed just because they believed in god.  Nobody would lay down their life, unless they were positive that he existed.  In that regard, that's millions, and millions, and millions of testaments to god's existance, no matter what their religion was.  
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Re: What do you think tha chances are religion is
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2002, 07:18:56 PM »
you talk about why would people feel so strong about something that isnt real,  but religion is strong,  it controls a person.  Look at people in tha ghetto,  there lives suck,  around crime an survivin off welfare,  but yet there love for god is so strong.  Plus a lot of people will believe anything.  Plus look how long it has been around,  so many people devote there lives to religion or feel strongly about it.  If it was fake,  who would want to change that,  imagine tha chaos caused if religion was just a shame,  if there was no god.  People wouldnt admit that,  so ofcourse there just going to continue living tha same way they did.  My personal belief,  i believe there is a higher power a god,  i dont believe in organized religion though
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Re: What do you think tha chances are religion is
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2002, 07:43:37 PM »
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What do you think tha chances are religion is made is made up.  People through out history have said that religion was just made up in order to keep people in line,  that wit all tha sins an going to hell people would be affraid to steal an kill.  This is off topic but i gotta give overseer props for makin this board,  its dope


First off.. How is this off topic?  Any talk about religion is recomended.

To answer your question.  There's no possible way religion is made up from a Muslim perspective.  Because we don't believe that any of these prophets are Gods.  It's the same as if we all just agreed at this board that Trauma was the truest homie in the world, and we all decided to follow him.  That's how I explain your question.
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Re: What do you think tha chances are religion is
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2002, 08:14:16 PM »
Some religions are made up and some are legit. I believe Christianity, Islam and Judaism are legit.
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Re: What do you think tha chances are religion is
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2002, 10:11:15 PM »
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Some religions are made up and some are legit. I believe Christianity, Islam and Judaism are legit.


I'm going to respectfully disagree with you.  Religions with prophets, such as Islam and Sihkism are legit.  Prophets= Legit.  Man made to be Gods or partners with Gods=Idol Worship, e-ligitamate.
Once again, I am respectfully disagreeing with you, I respect your views, your relgion and you as a person, I just have a contrasting view on theology.
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Trauma-san

Re: What do you think tha chances are religion is
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2002, 10:15:44 PM »
Infinite, you need to answer 1 question for me, LOL.


1. You say that Jesus was a prophet.  You also say that Islam recognizes him as such.

The question is, would a prophet lie? Because Jesus claimed himself to be the Son of God.  The ONLY begotten son of god.  Add to that the fact that he was born of a friekin' VIRGIN, and to me it's hard to deny him.  
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Re: What do you think tha chances are religion is
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2002, 10:41:57 PM »
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Infinite, you need to answer 1 question for me, LOL.


1. You say that Jesus was a prophet.  You also say that Islam recognizes him as such.

The question is, would a prophet lie? Because Jesus claimed himself to be the Son of God.  The ONLY begotten son of god.  Add to that the fact that he was born of a friekin' VIRGIN, and to me it's hard to deny him.  


I have 2 answers for that.

1.  If it was said in the new testament, then it may have been "tampered" information.

2.  Okay.  In a way, he was the Son of God, because Mary (pbuh) was a virgin.  However, we don't feel comfortable refering to Jesus as the Son of God, because we believe that God has no partners.
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Trauma-san

Re: What do you think tha chances are religion is
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2002, 10:51:33 PM »
You really think the 67 times he's referred to as the 'son of god' are tampered with?  That's hard for me to believe.  

Also, he was Resureccted.  No normal man does that.

Also, the lord spoke at his baptism, "Behold, my beloved son, with whom I am well pleased" to the dozens of people there.

Also, when he died, their was an earthquake, thunderstorm, the curtain in the temple ripped, etc.

Also, he 'gave up' his soul on the cross, which is impossible to do as a mortal.  You can't just let yourself die, but he did.  Roman soldiers usually had to break a crucified victims legs, so they couldn't pull themselves up to breath, then they would die.   But when Jesus was stabbed, water, then blood fell out, showing that his heart had already stopped beating, from just standing on the cross.  He also is quoted as saying "It is finished" shortly after receiving vineagar to drink on the cross, and dying.  You can't make yourself die....

There's just a ton of compelling evidence to me,t hat Jesus was the son of god.  I'm not gonna even get into the faith healing, walking on water, coming back from the dead, or any of the other miracles he performed.  Peace~

 

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Re: What do you think tha chances are religion is
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2002, 04:42:00 AM »
I seriously think religion is made up... think of it like this... (my facts may be weird) but look at the Bible as a book, cause it is, but dont look at it as THE ALL MIGHTY BIBLE, look at it as a fantasy story that wrote a fictional story about are creation and are ideas.... just a book, a story, written by a whole bunch of men...i feel, it was such a great story, people actually thought "why couldn't this be true" and through its time, they actually passed it to their children as a "way of life" and then the book no longer is just a book, but a way of life....like all the other relgious books out there... people right new books about our way of life, and create new ideas, and then little cults form out of them... to me, its just a story people loved too much...

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Re: What do you think tha chances are religion is
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2002, 04:53:20 AM »
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I seriously think religion is made up... think of it like this... (my facts may be weird) but look at the Bible as a book, cause it is, but dont look at it as THE ALL MIGHTY BIBLE, look at it as a fantasy story that wrote a fictional story about are creation and are ideas.... just a book, a story, written by a whole bunch of men...i feel, it was such a great story, people actually thought "why couldn't this be true" and through its time, they actually passed it to their children as a "way of life" and then the book no longer is just a book, but a way of life....like all the other relgious books out there... people right new books about our way of life, and create new ideas, and then little cults form out of them... to me, its just a story people loved too much...

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Yeah but a lot of the stuff in the New Testament is backed up by historical evidence.  Jesus lived etc  A lot of it is fact, it's the miracles etc that's debatable
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Re: What do you think tha chances are religion is
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2002, 07:54:12 AM »
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First off.. How is this off topic?  Any talk about religion is recomended.



nah,  after i made my point i jus gave props to overseer for makin this new forum
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Re: What do you think tha chances are religion is
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2002, 12:12:01 PM »
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What do you think tha chances are religion is made is made up.  People through out history have said that religion was just made up in order to keep people in line,  that wit all tha sins an going to hell people would be affraid to steal an kill.  This is off topic but i gotta give overseer props for makin this board,  its dope


Ive never followed my religion closely, i know the stories and what not but i hardly ever go to church, only for family weddings, funerals and baptisms etc. My religion has bought nothing but bad things to my fam and i have no love for it really, its all a bit too much, id like to read the Qu'ran though, it sounds quite enlightening but i just aint got time at the moment...
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Re: What do you think tha chances are religion is
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2002, 12:52:37 PM »
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What do you think tha chances are religion is made is made up.  People through out history have said that religion was just made up in order to keep people in line,  that wit all tha sins an going to hell people would be affraid to steal an kill.  This is off topic but i gotta give overseer props for makin this board,  its dope



i think tha chances are pretty high. I mean, its not like anyone could be positive that its made up. Just as no one can be positive that its true. I mean, if i were to say that theres an invisible man in my closet, who i pray to but never reveals himself. and he watches over me to protects me...and loves me, BUT if i fuk up he'll punish me by sending me to a place where ill burn for eternity. No matter how many stories i made up, and no matter how much i believed it...people would say i was crazee. But...for very very religious people...they dont see anyway that their religion can be wrong. lol Its good to have strong beliefs...but it makes u a much more rounded person when u can question yur own beliefs at times. Without questions....there are no answers.
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Re: What do you think tha chances are religion is
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2002, 02:05:00 PM »
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I'm going to respectfully disagree with you.  Religions with prophets, such as Islam and Sihkism are legit.  Prophets= Legit.  Man made to be Gods or partners with Gods=Idol Worship, e-ligitamate.
Once again, I am respectfully disagreeing with you, I respect your views, your relgion and you as a person, I just have a contrasting view on theology.


It's funny how you disagree with me when I completely agree with you. I didn't say that ONLY Christianity, Islam and Judaism. Those were just examples.

Pretty much anyone who believes in one God is right, just that their are other philosphy.
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