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JTSimon

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Sept 11th Firefighters
« on: April 06, 2004, 10:02:27 AM »
I was watching a 9/11 documentary the other night and they were talking about how firefighters didn't do shit on 9/11 and that they actually caused more deaths by going up the same stairs civilans were walking down...causing a big backup.

Just thought I would share with you all  ;)

 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2004, 03:55:32 PM »
So now your hatred for the president has spilled over into hating innocent low paid people chosen to protect you from disaster, most of whom in your particular hate demographic DIED doing such.  

I don't understand the point of a post like this?  What, is it to slam Firefighters?  What the fuck is wrong with you?
 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2004, 11:53:25 PM »

I don't understand the point of a post like this?  What, is it to slam Firefighters?  What the fuck is wrong with you?

I was thinking the same thing.....Didnt Do Shit?? Well if they were heading up the building it MEANS THEY WERE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING....they tryed to help and helped many escape...what documentry did u watch?
 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2004, 01:45:37 AM »

I don't understand the point of a post like this?  What, is it to slam Firefighters?  What the fuck is wrong with you?
what documentry did u watch?


Probably an Arab one...
 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2004, 01:55:58 AM »
^ Saying that firefighters didn't really help much doesn't really benefit Arabs in any way.
 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2004, 02:09:35 AM »
^ Saying that firefighters didn't really help much doesn't really benefit Arabs in any way.


Arabs like making up shit though... ;D
 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2004, 02:18:38 AM »
So do Israelis  ;D

Read up on the Levon Affair.
In 1954, the Israeli government plotted to blow up American installations in 2 main Egyptian cities and blame it on Egyptian nationals. The plot was uncovered and the Israeli prime minister Pinhas Lavon had to resign because his retarded plan didn't work. That's the Lavon Affair.

So, if you want to talk about making up shit, look at your own people first, and then focus on others. Lied to the U.S. government for sympathey. And didn't the prime minister of Israel at the time of 9/11 say that the WTC attack was "very good and very helpful for Israel" in that it would create a lot of support for Israel. How can he turn 4000 people dying into a good thing. How selfish.
 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2004, 02:57:39 AM »
So do Israelis  ;D

Read up on the Levon Affair.
In 1954, the Israeli government plotted to blow up American installations in 2 main Egyptian cities and blame it on Egyptian nationals. The plot was uncovered and the Israeli prime minister Pinhas Lavon had to resign because his retarded plan didn't work. That's the Lavon Affair.

So, if you want to talk about making up shit, look at your own people first, and then focus on others. Lied to the U.S. government for sympathey. And didn't the prime minister of Israel at the time of 9/11 say that the WTC attack was "very good and very helpful for Israel" in that it would create a lot of support for Israel. How can he turn 4000 people dying into a good thing. How selfish.


Nobody said Israelis don't make up shit...But only an Arab would make up shit about 9/11...LOL
 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2004, 03:00:13 AM »
Or, since the Israeli government likes attacking the U.S. and blaming it on the Arabs, maybe the Israelis were successful on 9/11. They might actually have been successful after all those previous attempts they were busted on.
 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2004, 03:03:46 AM »
Or, since the Israeli government likes attacking the U.S. and blaming it on the Arabs, maybe the Israelis were successful on 9/11. They might actually have been successful after all those previous attempts they were busted on.


Maybe...I doubt it though.
 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2004, 03:10:26 AM »
We all have our doubts. :)
 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2004, 03:23:17 AM »
since america is like israels biggest friend i doubt it

iraq would just get annexed by iran


That would be a great solution.  If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2004, 04:34:36 AM »
since america is like israels biggest friend i doubt it

LMAO. You do know that the U.S. government KNOWS that Israel was responsible for those attacks on the U.S. installations in 1954 in addition to the attack in 1967 on the USS Liberty, right? Well, the fact that Israel is "the biggest friend" as you call it, is what discouraged the U.S. to take any action. The Lavon Affair the U.S. did not do anything about is because the Israeli prime minister resigned right after the plot was uncovered. With the Liberty, it was different. At first, they didn't know Israel was responsible, and it was all over the news. As soon as they found out Israel purposely did this, the U.S. congress (heavily influenced by Jewish lobbyists even at that time) downplayed it. The story disappeared from the news, and they just told Israel to get the fuck out of the area.

That leads me to another story. Did you hear about the 5 Israeli Mossad (secret service) agents who were arrested on 9/11 for cheering in the streets, driving around in a van with explosive material, and a video camera containing footage of the Sears Tower? Now I would figure this would be HUGE news, but not in this country. Once again, the story quickly disappeared from the news, and many people STILL don't know about it. Let me give you a summary of what happened, and then I will post up a couple links so you can read for yourself.

A few months before the attack several Israeli Mossad agents were caught trying to sneak across the Canadian border into Washington state with fake ID, in white moving vans. Well, on 9/11, people in NYC were calling the cops telling them about "arab looking" guys in a white van driving around the city, cheering after the attack. They were happy. I wonder why. Then the police gets a phone call from an anonymous person saying that "there is going to be an attack on a bridge" (I don't exactly recall which specific bridge, since there's a few in NYC). So, the police is smart enough to close off ALL bridges, and guess who they saw at a bridge different from the one mentioned in the phone call? Yup, the white van with the "arab looking" guys. It was those guys who had called the police, given them info about an attack to be carried out by some arab guys, and told them about a wrong location. That way once it happens, the police will say "those arabs attacked that bridge". But, thanks to our intelligent police force, that did not happen. The guys were caught, and eventually identified as ISRAELI secret service agents aka Mossad. Then there was something about the lawyer first claiming a certain number of defendants and then changing that number, which caused some people to think that maybe there were 2 vans. Anyways, those guys were locked up for a couple weeks, then simply sent back to Israel. That's it. No punishment. Here's the funniest part of all: one of the guys is interviewed in Israel by a reporter, and you know what he tells the reporter? "We were there to document the event". LMAO. How the fuck did he know there was going to be an event, and why was he cheering?

By the way, the motto for the Mossad is: "By way of deception, thou shalt do war"

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_16_01/Mossad_Link_to_First_WTC_Bombi/mossad_link_to_first_wtc_bombi.html

For those that only trust major newspaper articles here's something out of the NY Times:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/archive/2001/nytime100801.htm

Even ABCNews left the article up. I'm surprised.
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/DailyNews/2020_whitevan_020621.html

Well, maybe U.S. Army Officers know better than I do, so here is something else:

http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_26_01/U_S__Army_Officers_Say___Mossa/u_s__army_officers_say___mossa.html



 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2004, 06:12:55 AM »
It was on NOVA but the whole documentary was not focused on firefighters.

They were not heroic on 9/11 they just fucked everything up.


lol@Arab documentaries.
 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2004, 06:19:15 AM »
Another thread spins wildly out of control.  If you find it in your heart to condemn firefighters who died trying to save people's lives, you're an asshole, simple as that.  I hope you have a fucking change of heart one of these days, your hate has started to encompass even the simplest human emotions a fucking child is born with.  
 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2004, 06:27:49 AM »
Another thread spins wildly out of control.  If you find it in your heart to condemn firefighters who died trying to save people's lives, you're an asshole, simple as that.  I hope you have a fucking change of heart one of these days, your hate has started to encompass even the simplest human emotions a fucking child is born with.  

I only feel sorry for the first group of firefighters that didn't know the first building would fall. The rest are fuking stupid.
 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2004, 12:50:42 PM »
Max...

Why do you contiune to post in here? Your "Last Post" was supposed to be ages ago.

Stick to beating off to she-males.

You've proven time and time again that you don't have a clue about:
1.)Politics
2.)War
3.)Women

You're pretty much useless and look like a moron to everybody that reads your posts.
 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2004, 01:05:04 PM »
since america is like israels biggest friend i doubt it

LMAO. You do know that the U.S. government KNOWS that Israel was responsible for those attacks on the U.S. installations in 1954 in addition to the attack in 1967 on the USS Liberty, right? Well, the fact that Israel is "the biggest friend" as you call it, is what discouraged the U.S. to take any action. The Lavon Affair the U.S. did not do anything about is because the Israeli prime minister resigned right after the plot was uncovered. With the Liberty, it was different. At first, they didn't know Israel was responsible, and it was all over the news. As soon as they found out Israel purposely did this, the U.S. congress (heavily influenced by Jewish lobbyists even at that time) downplayed it. The story disappeared from the news, and they just told Israel to get the fuck out of the area.

That leads me to another story. Did you hear about the 5 Israeli Mossad (secret service) agents who were arrested on 9/11 for cheering in the streets, driving around in a van with explosive material, and a video camera containing footage of the Sears Tower? Now I would figure this would be HUGE news, but not in this country. Once again, the story quickly disappeared from the news, and many people STILL don't know about it. Let me give you a summary of what happened, and then I will post up a couple links so you can read for yourself.

A few months before the attack several Israeli Mossad agents were caught trying to sneak across the Canadian border into Washington state with fake ID, in white moving vans. Well, on 9/11, people in NYC were calling the cops telling them about "arab looking" guys in a white van driving around the city, cheering after the attack. They were happy. I wonder why. Then the police gets a phone call from an anonymous person saying that "there is going to be an attack on a bridge" (I don't exactly recall which specific bridge, since there's a few in NYC). So, the police is smart enough to close off ALL bridges, and guess who they saw at a bridge different from the one mentioned in the phone call? Yup, the white van with the "arab looking" guys. It was those guys who had called the police, given them info about an attack to be carried out by some arab guys, and told them about a wrong location. That way once it happens, the police will say "those arabs attacked that bridge". But, thanks to our intelligent police force, that did not happen. The guys were caught, and eventually identified as ISRAELI secret service agents aka Mossad. Then there was something about the lawyer first claiming a certain number of defendants and then changing that number, which caused some people to think that maybe there were 2 vans. Anyways, those guys were locked up for a couple weeks, then simply sent back to Israel. That's it. No punishment. Here's the funniest part of all: one of the guys is interviewed in Israel by a reporter, and you know what he tells the reporter? "We were there to document the event". LMAO. How the fuck did he know there was going to be an event, and why was he cheering?

By the way, the motto for the Mossad is: "By way of deception, thou shalt do war"

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_16_01/Mossad_Link_to_First_WTC_Bombi/mossad_link_to_first_wtc_bombi.html

For those that only trust major newspaper articles here's something out of the NY Times:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/archive/2001/nytime100801.htm

Even ABCNews left the article up. I'm surprised.
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/DailyNews/2020_whitevan_020621.html

Well, maybe U.S. Army Officers know better than I do, so here is something else:

http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_26_01/U_S__Army_Officers_Say___Mossa/u_s__army_officers_say___mossa.html


Good job going off-topic...This thread was about firefighters on 9/11, and you started talking about something completely different...Does this make sense to anyone?
 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2004, 01:11:55 PM »
Well, you went from a topic of firefighters to saying that Arabs are liars. So if anyone started going off track, it was you. I just continued from where you left off. However, I will start a new thread with this post, and hopefully by then you will think of a reply, since it seems you couldn't come up with one this time.
 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2004, 01:17:18 PM »
Well, you went from a topic of firefighters to saying that Arabs are liars. So if anyone started going off track, it was you. I just continued from where you left off. However, I will start a new thread with this post, and hopefully by then you will think of a reply, since it seems you couldn't come up with one this time.



Why do I need a reply? The shit you posted was true...That doesn't change the fact that you went off topic...I was on topic, because I was talking about the documentary...You just completely went off-topic...The fact that Israelis lie doesn't change the fact that Arabs lie in documentaries... ::)
 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2004, 01:21:40 PM »
Well, you went from a topic of firefighters to saying that Arabs are liars. So if anyone started going off track, it was you. I just continued from where you left off. However, I will start a new thread with this post, and hopefully by then you will think of a reply, since it seems you couldn't come up with one this time.



Why do I need a reply? The shit you posted was true...That doesn't change the fact that you went off topic...I was on topic, because I was talking about the documentary...You just completely went off-topic...The fact that Israelis lie doesn't change the fact that Arabs lie in documentaries... ::)

Show me an Arab documentary that was aired in this country. I'd like to see it.

By the way, your specific words were "Arabs like making up shit", which is a generalization. Therefore, I showed you that when it comes to lies, they're not flying solo. If you make a comment generalizing a whole group of people, you can expect someone to show you the other side.
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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2004, 01:27:47 PM »
Well, you went from a topic of firefighters to saying that Arabs are liars. So if anyone started going off track, it was you. I just continued from where you left off. However, I will start a new thread with this post, and hopefully by then you will think of a reply, since it seems you couldn't come up with one this time.



Why do I need a reply? The shit you posted was true...That doesn't change the fact that you went off topic...I was on topic, because I was talking about the documentary...You just completely went off-topic...The fact that Israelis lie doesn't change the fact that Arabs lie in documentaries... ::)

Show me an Arab documentary that was aired in this country. I'd like to see it.

LOL...Just because it's not aired in America, that means they can't lie?

http://www.thememoryhole.org/media/pbs-caught.htm
http://auto_sol.tao.ca/node/view/60
 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2004, 01:27:57 PM »
I just read the article, and it said that things were left out. It didn't say that what was stated was false. All it said is that Israeli and Jewish lobbying groups shitted their pants because the documentary didn't portray the pro-Israeli bias of the story, and they got their panties in a twist because a page was left out on the website. That page didn't even take a pro-Palestinian stance, it just talked about the history of the land, and the last sentence states that neither side has legitamite claim.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2004, 01:39:34 PM by FuNk-U-uP »
 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2004, 01:29:46 PM »
No, but since Max saw the documentary, and he lives in America, I see your argument going down the drain.


But I just found Arab documentaries that aired in America in a matter of seconds... 8)
 

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Re:Sept 11th Firefighters
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2004, 01:35:04 PM »
And the 2nd link doesn't even talk about "lies". It's just an article about an Arab film festival in Canada.