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Definition of REAL
« on: April 07, 2004, 04:50:20 PM »
Whether you agree with what he says or not, you have to admit these are some powerful words.



Most of my latino and black people who are struggling to get food, shelter, and clothing in the hood are so concerned with that, that philosophizing about freedom and socialist democracy is usually, unfortunately beyond their rationale. They don't realize that America can't exist without seperating them from their identity because if we had some sense of who we really are, there's no way in hell that we'd allow this country to push us to genocidal consensus on our homelands. This ignorance exists, but it can be destroyed. People talk about change, and working within the system to achieve that. The problem with always being a conformist is that when you try to change the system from within, it's not you who changes the system, it's the system that will eventually change you. There's usually nothing wrong with compromising a situation, but compromising yourself in a situation is another story completely, and I have seen this happen long enough in the few years that I've been alive to know that it's a serious problem.

Latino America is a huge colony of countries whose presidents are cowards in the face of economic imperialism. You see, third world countries are rich places, abundant in resources, and many of these countries have the capacity to feed their starving people, the people we always see digging through trash for food on TV and commercials. But, a government run by the rich, such as this one, and traditionally oppressive European states, force the third world into buying overpriced, unnecessary goods, while exporting huge portions of their natural resources.

I'm quite sure that people will look at my attitude in sentiment, and look for hypocricy and hatred in my words, but my revolution is born out of love for my people, not hatred for others. You see, most the Latinos are here because of great inflation that was caused by American companies in Latin America. Aside from that, many are seeking a life away from the puppet democracies that are funded by the United States. Places like El Salvador, Guatemala, Peru, Colombia, Nicaragua, Ecuador, the Dominican Republic, and not just Spanish-speaking countries either, but Haiti and Jamaica as well. As different as we have been taught to look at each other by colonial society, we are in the same struggle, and until we realize that we will be fighting for scraps from the table of a system that has kept us subservient, instead of being self-determined, and that's why we have no control over when the Embargo will stop on Cuba, or when the bombs will stop dropping in (couldn't make out the name).  But you see here in America, the attitude that is fed to us, is that outside of America. there live lesser people. Fuck them let them fend for themselves. No, Fuck you! They are you. No matter how much you want to dye your hair blond, put fake eyes in, or follow an anhorexic standard of beauty, or no matter how many diamonds you buy from people who exploit your own rudely to get them, no matter what kind of car you drive, what kind of fancy clothes you put on, you will never be them. They're always going to look at you as nothing but a little monkey. I'd rather be proud of what I am, rather than desperately try to be something I'm really not, just to fit in. Whether we want to accept it or not, that's what this culture, or lack of culture is feeding us. I want a better life, for my family and for my children, but it doesn't have to be at the expense of millions of lives in my homeland. We're given the idea that if we didn't have these people to exploit, then America wouldn't be rich enough to let us have these little petty material things in our lives and basic standards of living. No, that's wrong. It's the business giants and the government officials who make all the real money.  We have whatever they kick down to us.

My enemy is not the average white man. It's not the kid down the block, or the kids I see on the street. My enemy is the white man I don't see; the people in the White House, the corporate monopoly owners, fake liberal politicians, those are my enemies. The generals in the army that are mostly conservative, those are the real motherfuckers that I need to bring it to, not the poor, broke, country-ass soldier who is too stupid to know shit about the way things are set up. In fact, I have more in common with most working and middle-class white people than I do with most rich black and latino people. As much as racism bleeds America, we need to understand that classism is the real issue. Many of us are in the same boat, and it's sinking, while these motherfuckers ride on a luxury liner, and as long as we keep fighting over kicking people out of the little boat we're all in, we're going to miss an opportunity to gain a better standard of living as a whole. In other words, I don't want to escape the plantation. I want to come back, free all my people, hang the motherfucker that kept me there, and burn the house to the god-damn ground. I want to take over the encomienda, and give it back to the people who worked the land.

You cannot change the past, but you can make the future, and anyone who tells you different is a fuckin lethargic devil. I don't look at a few token Latinos and Black people in the public eye as some type of achievement for my people as a whole. Most of those successful individuals are just sell-outs and house heroes. But, I don't consider brothers as sell-outs if they move out of the ghetto. Poverty has nothing to do with our people. It's not in our culture to be poor, that's only been the last 500 years of our history. Look at the last 2000 years of our existence, and what we brought to the world in terms of science, mathematics, agriculture, and forms of government. You know the idea of a confederation of provinces, under one federal government that controls the states;the Europeans who came to this country stole that idea from the Iroquois League. The idea of impeaching a ruler comes from an Aztec tradition, that's why Montezuma was stoned to death by his own people, because he represented the agenda of white Spaniards once he was captured, not the Aztec people who will become Mexicans.

So in conclusion, I'm not going to vote for anybody just because they're Black or Latino; they have to truly represent the community, and represent what's good for all of us proleteriats.


IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE - POVERTY OF PHILOSOPHY
 

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Re:Definition of REAL
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2004, 03:00:43 PM »
Real shit...Heard it before though.
 

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Re:Definition of REAL
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2004, 04:12:06 PM »
That was real.  Where exactly did you get that from?  Where did Immortal Technique write that?
 

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Re:Definition of REAL
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2004, 05:37:39 PM »
Uppin this before I get banned again.  8)
 

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Re:Definition of REAL
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2004, 03:20:06 AM »
Yeah, this was some real fuckin shit. i feel most whatever Technique says, althought sometimes it comes out as not thought through, especially when he's talking about religion. I don't get what he means when he talks about "Jesus beling painted white." what is that supposed to mean? anyway, this shit reminded me of the guy whose nickname was something like "im' posting here until overseer gets back from vacation and bans me again." What was his Nick BEFORE he got banned? i can't figure it out
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Re:Definition of REAL
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2004, 12:14:25 PM »
Yeah, this was some real fuckin shit. i feel most whatever Technique says, althought sometimes it comes out as not thought through, especially when he's talking about religion. I don't get what he means when he talks about "Jesus beling painted white." what is that supposed to mean? anyway, this shit reminded me of the guy whose nickname was something like "im' posting here until overseer gets back from vacation and bans me again." What was his Nick BEFORE he got banned? i can't figure it out
JESUS was not white, and he is being portayed white, because we cant have a dark complection jesus... so.. from the time of his death, artists drew jesus white.. to make white people closer to GOD
 

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Re:Definition of REAL
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2004, 03:46:30 PM »
don't jews have white skin? Was he black then? also, i don't see why ras kass calls Moors Black. They're not black, they're arabs. Also, ancient egyptians weren't black either, they were a whole another race that is extinct nowadays.
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Re:Definition of REAL
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2004, 06:17:39 PM »
That was some of the trustest shit out.
 

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Re:Definition of REAL
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2004, 07:56:38 PM »
don't jews have white skin? Was he black then? also, i don't see why ras kass calls Moors Black. They're not black, they're arabs. Also, ancient egyptians weren't black either, they were a whole another race that is extinct nowadays.

Ancient Hebrews likely had fairly dark skin, and it is evidenced in the New Testament when Jesus (PBUH) is described as having skin the colour of bronze furnished in a fire (paraphrased).
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Most hip-hop is now keyboard driven, because the majority of hip-hop workstations have loops and patches that enable somebody with marginal skills to put tracks together,...

Unfortunately, most hip-hop artists gravitated towards the path of least resistance by relying on these pre-set patches. As a result, electric guitar and real musicians became devalued, and a lot of hip-hop now sounds the same.

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Re:Definition of REAL
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2004, 07:59:59 PM »
Immortal Technique will destroy your religion you stupid bitch
You're faker than blue-eyed crackers nailed to a crucifix


- Immortal Technique
Cause I don't care where I belong no more
What we share or not I will ignore
And I won't waste my time fitting in
Cause I don't think contrast is a sin
No, it's not a sin
 

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Re:Definition of REAL
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2004, 08:41:10 PM »
Immortal Technique will destroy your religion you stupid bitch
You're faker than blue-eyed crackers nailed to a crucifix


- Immortal Technique

That's such a dope quote.

Most hip-hop is now keyboard driven, because the majority of hip-hop workstations have loops and patches that enable somebody with marginal skills to put tracks together,...

Unfortunately, most hip-hop artists gravitated towards the path of least resistance by relying on these pre-set patches. As a result, electric guitar and real musicians became devalued, and a lot of hip-hop now sounds the same.

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Re:Definition of REAL
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2004, 10:41:24 PM »
don't jews have white skin? Was he black then?


Those are American Jews...Israeli Jews look the same as Arabs.
 

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Re:Definition of REAL
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2004, 02:48:06 PM »
^yup. the israelis lived in the middle east and just because they had a different religion doesn't mean their complexion was any different from that of the neighboring peoples' (arabs). jesus was not white. white people painted him white for their own prejudice reasons.